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Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 00:15:59 No.54639140 View View Reply Original Report

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Looking back, was adding a new type really the best way to solve Dragon types being too strong? Could buffing Ice or Rock have done the job without straight up just inventing a new type that's just immune to Dragon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 00:17:31 No.54639148 Report

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>>54639140
Buffing Rock wouldn't have had the same marketing impact.
Expect a new type in the next 10 years to counter Fairy and Steel btw.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 00:25:22 No.54639185 Report

Quoted By: >>54639198

>>54639148
But khu said there will be a new type in the DLC

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 00:25:47 No.54639189 Report

Quoted By: >>54639192

>>54639140
>buffing types wholesale because of my Omgon
Let me guess ice should be neutral to rock xD

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 00:26:52 No.54639192 Report

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>>54639189
Why not just resist Water and Dragon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 00:29:27 No.54639198 Report

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>>54639185
*Tera type, another gimmick

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 00:39:09 No.54639236 Report

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>>54639140
I think back then they were kinda just afraid of change in a sense. Similar to how they didn’t just make it so that Pokémon like Eevee couldn’t evolve into Leafeon with a leaf stone despite it already existing. Instead they created a “lore reason” in the mossy rock. But now they’re kinda learning that QoL changes are ok and change is sometimes good. They kinda did similar with Dark and Steel to fix Psychic and Fighting and the like, but now I doubt they’d rebalance the type chart with a new type.

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Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 00:50:06 No.54639305 Report

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>>54639148

Its so jarring because it looks like everythings being set up for a sound type to come in but i cant for the life of me give a reason why sound would be super effective against things besides steel and unfortunatrly ice or fighting. I feel like bug would resist sound which is great. But i dont see the interaction with fairy

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Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 00:52:02 No.54639325 Report

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>>54639305
>sound type gets added
>it's supereffective against rock

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 00:55:27 No.54639341 Report

Quoted By: >>54639987 >>54640127

>>54639305
Sound is never happening. Everyone thought we would get a Sound or Light type 10 years ago and we got Fairy instead. The next type is impossible to predict.
But there WILL be another type, eventually.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 00:56:26 No.54639347 Report

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>>54639305
>it looks like everythings being set up for a sound type
How so?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 00:57:28 No.54639354 Report

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>>54639305
>sound
>another type that water resists

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 02:50:35 No.54639987 Report

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>>54639305
There's barely any Pokémon that uses sounds to make a type for it, but there is a good chunk of Alienmons to make Cosmic type a thing, though

>>54639341
What if they make an Artificial type for Manmade Pokémon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 02:52:04 No.54639996 Report

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>>54639987
>What if they make an Artificial type for Manmade Pokémon?

NTA manmade pokemon are few and easily can be placed under normal typing

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 03:13:39 No.54640127 Report

Quoted By: >>54640133

>>54639341
>Sound is never happening.

>The next type is impossible to predict.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 03:14:55 No.54640133 Report

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>>54639987
>What if they make an Artificial type for Manmade Pokémon?
Probably not.

>>54640127
Sound won't happen because it's the most obvious choice, and has been since before Fairy existed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 03:58:08 No.54640329 Report

Quoted By: >>54640343 >>54641317 >>54641347

>>54639140
Fairy being immune to Dragon isn't the problem, its the interactions with other types that caused it to basically just take Dragon's place with Water as the best all-around types.
It needs at least one more weakness. I think Psychic would be the best fit, it's thematically justified and it's been going downhill since Gen I but especially after the Gen VI changes that buffed the shit out of Dark and Ghost types, it really needs the compensation. Making Psychic more valuable also reins in Fighting, which was Fairy's secondary purpose.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 04:00:19 No.54640343 Report

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>>54640329
Honestly just make psychic resist fairy and bug neing neutral against fairy imo would balance fairy a lot

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 05:32:10 No.54640702 Report

Quoted By: >>54641309 >>54641325

Tbh I don't even feel like it was the Dragon type that needed a nerf, it was a good type sure, but it was also sported by four Pseudos, three of which were really good, and the Lati twins, otherwise, did anyone think that fucking Flygon, Haxorus, and Altaria needed to be nerfed?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 06:04:16 No.54640805 Report

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>>54639305
Schizo post

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 08:46:08 No.54641294 Report

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>>54639140
no, fuck fairies, fuck buffs. dragons were supposed to be special

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 08:50:02 No.54641309 Report

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>>54640702
Outrage was fucking everywhere by gen 5. I don't think introducing another overpowered type to this mix was the right call. But they definitely needed to pierce through the dragon-centric metagame that was dominating.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 08:53:39 No.54641317 Report

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>>54640329
Psychic would be a ton better if ghosts were weak to it. Currently the type's strenghts are really shit. Being strong against fighting is nothing exceptional, and being strong against poison is pointless when steel exists.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 08:55:39 No.54641325 Report

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>>54640133
Sound won't happen, because it''s an effect, not an inherent elemental trait or affinity. EVERY pokémon uses sound in some fashion, does that mean they ALL should get Sound type? Fucking spastic children, get over yourselves already.
>>54640702
Thankfully, Game Freak knew better than "random 4chan anon #987623" and negated outragespam from Gen 5 VGC.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 08:56:35 No.54641328 Report

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>>54639305
It's literally not setup for sound-type to ever be a thing. Holy fuck, stop coping and talking out of your ass.
Sound is a fucking category already interacting with dozens of moves and abilities. A lot of moves in that category are already staple moves for other types.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 09:01:38 No.54641347 Report

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>>54640329
Poison is SE against Fairies but is generally still underused because of how generally it's an ass type.
You want to make it less of an ass type? Make it SE against Water, another overly popular type. It's flavorful (water pollution), nerfs other strong option and indirectly nerfs Fairies by making their already existing weakness stronger.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 09:09:03 No.54641357 Report

Quoted By: >>54641871

>an entire type made for troons

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 09:15:06 No.54641371 Report

Quoted By: >>54641871

>>54639140
they should have made a "magic" type instead. like seriously, it's so obvious.

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Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 12:22:13 No.54641871 Report

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>>54641294
>>54641357
>>54639140
Fuck Dragons, Fuck Fairy Haters, and Fuck Seethers

>>54641371
>Psychic has Wizards and Witches which quite a few are part Fairy
>Fairy are literal Magical-Beings, it has Wizards, Witches, Goblins, Trolls, Dwarves, Angels, Genies, Unicorns, Pixies, Sprites, Faes, Elves, Clowns, Mermaids, Yokais, Aliens, and Cu-Siths which quite a few are part Psychic
Fairy is already the "magic" type with Psychic being the alternative.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 13:06:47 No.54642014 Report

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>>54639148
>Expect a new type in the next 10 years
We are one generation away from being exactly as far from Fairy as Fairy was from Dark and Steel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 13:08:28 No.54642019 Report

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>>54641328
As an alternative, I would suggest maybe a "Music" type. Like the equivalent of a bard class in an RPG. This lets them pick what Pokemon and moves turn into this type more arbitrarily.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 13:12:36 No.54642032 Report

Quoted By: >>54642072

>>54639140
I like Fairy. I absolutely hate that Bug type had to suffer for it to be introduced though (and for no fucking reason too), but i still really like the concept. And contrary to what a lot of chuds may think, it's not a type that only applies to """girly""" mons (e.g. Mr. Mime, Impidimp, Granbull, Mimikyu, Klefki, etc)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 13:24:01 No.54642072 Report

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>>54642019
I could see a bunch of Pokémon that either likes singing(Wigglytuff, Gourgeist, Primarina) and dancing(Clefable, Hitmontop, Scrafty) in it, fun idea but inconvenient.

>>54642032
>Granbull
It's 75% female and it's personality is pretty girly, it's literally Dog version of Purugly

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 16:05:10 No.54642909 Report

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I just hate how Fairy stole a bunch of cute mons from the other types, especially Normal. I love cute, pink shit, but I hate having a designated type for it rather than having them distributed among the different types.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Oct 2023 16:19:30 No.54642999 Report

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>>54639140
Fairy made more sense than retarded fan shit like Sound

>>54639148
Ghost and Dark need hits more. Water too arguably.

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