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The delay between GS and RS. Consider the following. The fourth film not getting a major theatrical release and the fifth film having no theatrical release

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Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 17:10:02 No.54655877 Report

Quoted By: >>54656046 >>54659070

Reality. It was a fad that eventually burned out, like fidget spinners but instead of dying completely on its arse, it retained it's M. O. of shilling at 7 year olds, thus the drop-off of adults didn't harm it as much as the drop-off killed hackeysacks, pogs, etc. allowing it to continue selling. When Nintendo tech got popular again (and kids grew out of their "i wunt to be an adult NAO" phase), it started reviving before eventually going big again in the 20th anniversary as oldfags discovered it still existed since last they'd engaged with it.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 17:12:26 No.54655891 Report

Quoted By: >>54655902 >>54656091

>>54655855
>lowest-ever rehash sales leading directly into the second-lowest sales for a lead core pair
It died in Gen 2 zoomie. Sorry to provide facts that destroy your narrative.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 17:14:01 No.54655902 Report

Quoted By: >>54655936

>>54655891
>dead BY Gen 3-4
Learn to read, faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 17:15:36 No.54655912 Report

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>>54655875
Why is nature capitalized on that poster? It’s not a proper noun.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 17:18:28 No.54655931 Report

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>>54655866
The only good gen 2 games came out the 12th september 2009 anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 17:18:51 No.54655936 Report

Quoted By: >>54655948

>>54655902
But that's still wrong, you stupid fuck. Yellow, the rehash expy of Gen 1 sold 14m, main sales dropped 7m, rehash dropped 8m in Gen 2. It was over by the time you NEEDED to spend $90 on a GBC to play the rehash while simultaneously being obsolete tech on top as the GBA was out since well before its localisation. Sorry reality hurts you so, but that's what the world was like 22 years ago - new toy means old, obsolete kiddy shit gets ignored.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 17:20:27 No.54655948 Report

Quoted By: >>54655977

>>54655936
calm down lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 17:22:27 No.54655960 Report

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>>54655866
Good games filtered out the normie casuals that are currently dragging this franchise further and further into the depths of hell.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 17:25:19 No.54655977 Report

Quoted By: >>54655993

>>54655948
Concession accepted.
You need to learn the difference between angry and righteous. I know better than to post like an imbecile on this shithole.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 17:28:40 No.54655993 Report

Quoted By: >>54656065

>>54655977
Why post here to begin with, then?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 17:38:56 No.54656046 Report

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>>54655877
This, fads are difficult to sustain long-term and Pokemania lasted for a good 3-4 years which is already pretty long.

The revival around X/Y coincides with 90s kids going to college and falling for nostalgia.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 17:38:58 No.54656047 Report

Quoted By: >>54661399

>>54655848
>What killed Pokemania?
>posts a bunch of random shit from 10-15 years after Pokémania ended
Pokémon's meteoric rise to becoming the most popular media franchise in the world in the late 90s to the turn of the millennium was a period of unprecedented success and infiltration of global pop culture. It was also not sustainable, after a few years they reached total media saturation and the "fad" died down to "only" being a massive cash cow instead of actively dominating all forms of entertainment.
In more recent years, the Pokémon GO fad captured something like that total pop culture saturation again, but only briefly, and it didn't immediately translate to wider success across the franchise.
Only now in the Switch Era has Pokémon seen a revival even approaching the Game Boy days. Generation 8 and 9 have both outsold Gold & Silver, selling almost 50% more than any other game in the last 20 years. Even lesser titles have set franchise records, with LGPE and BDSP each being the best-selling remakes and PLA outselling Yellow as the best-selling single-version game.

TL;DR your zoomer nostalgia for the mid-2000s and thinking that modern "nu-Pokémon" is unpopular, not well regarded or killed the series is unfounded

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Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 17:42:47 No.54656065 Report

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>>54655993
Because it's funny as fuck to wind up the less-capable and watch then chimp out.
Anger leads to stress, stress leads to ill-health, ill-health leads to impacted lifecycles and conditions. And getting angry over a kid's game speaks to a more serious affliction than just anger issues.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 17:44:15 No.54656078 Report

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>>54655866
Nothing in itself.
Pokemania was a fad. Fads die eventually.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 17:45:19 No.54656086 Report

Quoted By: >>54661592 >>54662443

>>54655858
Yes, Gen 4, which already had all this with Platinum onwards did that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 17:45:53 No.54656091 Report

Quoted By: >>54656468

>>54655891
>Cropping out GS's sales which mog RS's
How come?

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Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 18:49:12 No.54656468 Report

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>>54656091
Because they were part of Pokémania, it was still shit hot when they came westwards. It's only after the release of the playstation 2 and the GBA did people stop caring about a kiddy series that seemed intent on remaining with its younger market. Had it jumped to N64 (properly) or Gamecube, people may have cared, but it sat with hardware that dragged behind the mean and pitched at kids once again, complete with new toy lines, new cartoon and culling previous gen compatibility, further driving away oldfags who'd invested time into the series till then.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 19:17:33 No.54656625 Report

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>>54655848
"Pokemania" is overrated. Get a actual social life outside of Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 20:50:19 No.54657099 Report

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>>54655848
Mass media attention leading to oversaturation leading to people growing tired of it. Genwaring fags will shitpost about a certain gen killing Pokemania when the games have always been niche when compared to the other media of the IP.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 21:10:05 No.54657196 Report

Quoted By: >>54657346 >>54657633 >>54662470

>>54655848
>killed pokemania
>top selling IP of all time
the only low spell was during generation 3
>>54655851
the delusion is so strong with underage posters
pokemon johto anime still had a huge following
orange islands still had a huge following
it was GENERATION THREE that was hot garbage
killed transfers from RBYGSC
KILLED everyones monsters
was a faggy water covered region with ugly digimon

THAT is what nearly killed the entire franchise
nintendo intervened, forced gamefreak to make FRLG
(which they didnt want to do, so they made them cut and dry as possible)

the darkest time in franchise history
pokemon was "uncool" for the first time ever
it was more than "uncool".
gen three is FUCKING CRINGE

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 21:34:29 No.54657346 Report

Quoted By: >>54663365

>>54657196
The absurd amount of "lol Misty never got her bike back" jokes normalfags make makes it pretty fucking obvious most people never watched the end of the Johto anime.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 21:36:20 No.54657367 Report

Quoted By: >>54662465

>>54655848
The same guys who now bomb Palestine.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 21:53:33 No.54657480 Report

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>>54655848
Game Freak

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Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 21:56:38 No.54657498 Report

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>>54655848
The johto anime sucking cock and being 95% filler

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 21:59:34 No.54657517 Report

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Pokemania died in the middle of gen 2. It wasn't killed by gen 2; it just so happened that the fad dissipated during gen 2. Nothing lasts forever.
Anyone who claims Pokemania lasted beyond gen 2 is a zoomer who was born after 9/11. Anyone who claims it was killed by gen 3 is a genwunner.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 22:01:05 No.54657526 Report

Quoted By: >>54658440

>>54655848
Pokemania died after the release of gen 3 retard
Pokemania was only a gen 1 & gen 2 thing

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Oct 2023 22:15:39 No.54657633 Report

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>>54657196
>pokemon johto anime still had a huge following
It was big, but significantly smaller. All movies after 3 were straight to DVD for a reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 00:41:16 No.54658425 Report

Quoted By: >>54658447 >>54658486

>>54655866
Gen 2.
As much as people want to say it died naturally the reality is that it killed it stone dead due to multiple delays, an abysmal era of the anime and "but we already got you pokemon" was setting in with parents because, minus the color, the majority of the game looked the same.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 00:43:17 No.54658440 Report

Quoted By: >>54662429

>>54657526
>Pokemania died after the release of gen 2
Fixed

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Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 00:45:06 No.54658447 Report

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>>54658425
Oh yeah and pokemon spin offs kind of died in that period too. There was stadium 2, TCG 2 Japan only and I can't even think of another even though I know there was at least one more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 00:52:06 No.54658486 Report

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>>54658425

Speaking as someone who was there it really boiled down to things just not being cool for kids that long. Pokemon became a kiddy thing by the time I went middle school. You can definitely blame "babies" being the gen 2 gimmick for the course correction to "badass designs" in gen 3. The terrible anime didn't help, anyone who made it through orange islands lost a lot of interest when Charizard got ditched

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Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 00:58:07 No.54658525 Report

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>>54655848
Pokemon Yellow.

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Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 00:58:53 No.54658531 Report

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The original Pokemania? It was never sustainable, it's really arguable whether the games were even the biggest part of it. I'd say the cards and the anime came first, people forget that Pokemania was already in full swing well before the games were actually released in PAL & NA.
I do remember getting Pokemon Stadium as a kid and being so let down - I think the promise of what that world could be was far more than any game studio could ever deliver on. But it also felt like they were barely trying.

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Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 01:12:49 No.54658603 Report

Quoted By: >>54658613

My comment? Yeah im just gonna write it right here and not (You) anyone cuz i have a fuckin HUGE ego and state my faggy opinion as fact

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Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 01:14:33 No.54658611 Report

Quoted By: >>54658635

>>54655848
9/11

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Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 01:14:56 No.54658613 Report

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>>54658603
schizo post

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Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 01:17:45 No.54658635 Report

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>>54658611
Unironically this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 01:35:55 No.54658732 Report

Quoted By: >>54658816 >>54658915

>>54655875
I didn't knew about this movie and Heroes until many years laters, i always thought that they made a trilogy of movies and then they stopped for some reason, so yeah, the Advance generation killed the Pokemania

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 01:53:58 No.54658816 Report

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>>54658732
>the Advance generation killed the Pokemania
That's a Johto movie, so was Heroes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 02:11:52 No.54658904 Report

Quoted By: >>54658932 >>54658936

>>54655848
Dexit and DLC

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 02:13:01 No.54658915 Report

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>>54658732
The reason 4 and 5 weren't released theatrically was that 3 didn't do well enough to justify it.
Pokemania was dead and buried before RS came out.

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Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 02:17:12 No.54658932 Report

Quoted By: >>54658938

>>54658904
Yoiu mean, the two things that directly led to pokéon selling Pokémaina-tier numbers and people giving a crap it exists again?
Yeah, can see how an autistic manchild who just ewants her toy from 20 year agoi to give a monkey's she's still a thing would see that as what killed her pokémania. But she's irrelevant to the series and actual pokémania, which happened long before she got born.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 02:17:59 No.54658936 Report

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>>54658904
>pokemania was killed by something that happened 20 years later
yeah that makes sense
stupid fucking schizo

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 02:19:03 No.54658938 Report

Quoted By: >>54658978

>>54658932
>, the two things that directly led to pokéon selling Pokémaina-tier numbers and people giving a crap it exists again?
That would be the switch.
If you hadn't noticed everything has been hitting massive numbers on it.

That said that anon was retarded because pokemania died well before dexit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 02:21:52 No.54658949 Report

Quoted By: >>54658954

>>54655851
This, but not because of the games, rather the Ashnime getting fatigued during the Johto so people increasingly dropped and the initial batch of target Audience hitting ages were it were no longer cool to like "Kid Stuff". That means that while GSC got to enjoy being in "Pokémania" Ruby and Sapphire came out when it had already "ended" rather then being the cause of it.

People probably don't want to admit this but the actual games quality were actually pretty irrelevant to the whole situation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 02:23:42 No.54658954 Report

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>>54658949
NOOO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND ALL THE 7-YEAR-OLDS LOOKED IT UP AHEAD OF TIME AND WHEN THEY SAW THAT YOU COULDN'T TRANSFER BULBASAUR FROM GS TO RS THEY SPECIFICALLY TOLD THEIR PARENTS NOT TO BUY THE GAME FOR THEM THERE'S NO OTHER EXPLANATION

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Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 02:29:45 No.54658973 Report

Quoted By: >>54658986

pokemania died because the fad couldnt keep up
the solution was never to add new pokemon despite the current predicament of 1000+ mons
the solution was also not to do a new region, or a new season, or anything
pokemania died because it was normie kids being obsessed with Current Fad until it stopped being cool and then dropping it for the next thing
those people never really cared or anything, so gamefreak took the decision to not bother trying to revitalize pokemania
Pokemon Go causing a nostalgia spike in those same kids, now grown, was an absolute fluke and revitalized Pokemania by being a nostalgic throwback. it was incidental and certainly not well planned out. everything that came after (nostalgiabaiting up the ass with the casual as fuck LGPE and the MUH CHARIZARD galar) was a result of the current gamefreak staff trying to keep the nostalgia fire lit, but in reality the pokemania kiddies gave up on it just as fast as they had in the 90s.
thats why genwunners were a meme on /vp/ for so long. they'd act like they knew anything about the franchise and that their opinion mattered even though they'd always say "oh i didnt play passed gen 2 and there's too many pokemon, muh aliens muh ice cream muh keys muh etc etc etc". those tards are what made pokemania and what killed it.

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Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 02:30:52 No.54658978 Report

Quoted By: >>54659089

>>54658938
Anon, the DS outsold the Switch by 30m. It didn't give Pokémon the bump Switch gave it from less overall hardware sales.
It's time to accept the amount of people who are interested in pokémon increased exponentially, as soon as it stopped appearing on cheap shitty handhelds aimed at children. The Switch is the first time pokémon's appeared on a gaming console. Not the first time on a system that ended up top 3 best-selling systems of all-time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 02:33:13 No.54658983 Report

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definitely not """yokai watch"""

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 02:33:57 No.54658986 Report

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>>54658973
sorry you wasted your life on a shit franchise aimed at jap children

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 02:38:30 No.54659006 Report

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whenever the pokemon cereal was discontinued should be a good proxy for the end date
I can only find when it was introduced though

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 02:52:18 No.54659070 Report

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>>54655877
Hanke dreams of this occuring with Pokemon GO

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Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 02:56:44 No.54659089 Report

Quoted By: >>54659100

>>54658978
>DS outsold the Switch by 30m
Yes?
The DS was wasn't being marketed to people who played games while the switch is.
>It's time to accept the amount of people who are interested in pokémon increased exponentially
That's the thing, it really hasn't, compare MKDS to MK8D. It's don't more than double the amount on switch. That's an exponential increase.
Zelda is an even better example since it rarely hit he double digits prior to the switch and now it has 30m.
Pokemon on the other hand that only hit almost 26m, while it's a lot of sales in general it's a small bump compared to other series on the switch.

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Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 02:58:37 No.54659100 Report

Quoted By: >>54659112

>>54659089
>The DS was wasn't being marketed to people who played games

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 03:00:28 No.54659112 Report

Quoted By: >>54659153

>>54659100
Did you just skip over that period of Nintendo or something? The period when they just went full casual?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 03:09:45 No.54659153 Report

Quoted By: >>54659172 >>54663676

>>54659112
Were you in a coma during greatest Nintendo handheld generation?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 03:14:27 No.54659172 Report

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>>54659153
>greatest
Yeah, the beginning or NSMB rehashes, gen 4 a game that was delayed and still ended up shit, casual games like brain training and Nintendogs, some of the worst mainline Zelda games and stripped down games like AC WW.
Totally the "greatest"
Face it, the DS was cool but it's best games weren't Nintendo made titles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 03:40:02 No.54659320 Report

Quoted By: >>54659323

>>54655851
you know this isn't true in the slightest and only say it as another excuse to shit on gen 2

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 03:40:52 No.54659323 Report

Quoted By: >>54659375

>>54659320
Gen 2 did kill pokemania, though.
Or rather, pokemania died during gen 2.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 03:52:09 No.54659375 Report

Quoted By: >>54659599

>>54659323
no it didn't. people who loved gen 1 also loved gen 2. then they got older and suddenly it was too childish to enjoy pokemon. growing up killed pokemania.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 04:48:04 No.54659599 Report

Quoted By: >>54659786

>>54659375
Anon, you realise that happened during gen 2 right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 05:10:03 No.54659664 Report

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>>54655851
nice bait

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 05:21:39 No.54659704 Report

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>>54655875
This is the real answer.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 05:33:02 No.54659731 Report

Quoted By: >>54660482 >>54660624

Imagine a world without the Pokemania...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 05:57:24 No.54659786 Report

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>>54659599
maybe for some fans, not most

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 09:17:29 No.54660482 Report

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>>54659731
sovl

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Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 10:08:55 No.54660624 Report

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>>54659731
In a world without pokemania I probably wouldn't have my digimon kits so I'm glad things turned out the way they did.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 12:16:58 No.54661041 Report

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>>54655848
People left during the middle of Johto. The anime changed so much between that and DP that their only interpretation of the anime was exclusively Season 1 stuff.
>The anime suddenly changed their artstyle near the end of Johto
>Hoenn anime being called Advanced Generation which is confusing for normies, and Ash doesn't have a proper rival.
By the time DP rolled it's almost exclusively a new wave of fans.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 12:20:54 No.54661054 Report

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>>54655848
Gen2
but more specifically the anime

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Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 13:27:30 No.54661399 Report

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>>54656047
>Releasing a new gen guarantees consistent sales for 20 years straight.
>Releasing a title that just combines the two games together nets them another 6-8 million
Shit they really have the system on lock, huh? Also, shout out to ORAS for selling almost as much as it's original titles.

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Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 13:41:59 No.54661489 Report

Quoted By: >>54661513

>>54655848
Honestly? Social media and the current year. Used to be, back during pokemania, you were relying on magazines and sketchy old forum websites for info. You also had the show and commercials to let you know what was going on. Phone's weren't as good, mobile games weren't really a thing, so the lines at gamestop, sears, and Toys R Us were out the street with kids and families wanting to buy Gameboys.
Now we get the entire game leaked and pirated a week prior to release and know whats going to be on it and how the dex/gimmicks work. Throw in some trash poketuber opinions and idiotic hype over a rumor or two and people get let down easier, or think a game sucks way worse than it actually does.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 13:47:15 No.54661513 Report

Quoted By: >>54661572 >>54661911 >>54662065

>>54661489
Do you just not know what Pokemania was?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 13:52:45 No.54661535 Report

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time
normalfags moved on to other shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 13:57:56 No.54661572 Report

Quoted By: >>54661585

>>54661513
No, what was it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 13:59:20 No.54661582 Report

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>>54655848
Time

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 14:00:33 No.54661585 Report

Quoted By: >>54661621

>>54661572
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon#1999%E2%80%932000:_Pok%C3%A9mania

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 14:02:13 No.54661592 Report

Quoted By: >>54662254

>>54656086
>every single character platinum added is white

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Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 14:03:16 No.54661596 Report

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>>54655848
Being exclusive to just the fisher price toy is a huge deterriment for me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 14:03:24 No.54661597 Report

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>>54655851
If that were the case then gs would've stayed the last games as they were planned. The truth is the hype cooled down but Ruby and Sapphire killed it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 14:11:32 No.54661621 Report

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>>54661585
Okay so I was right. Thanks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 14:33:27 No.54661753 Report

Quoted By: >>54661930

>>54655848
Time. No fad lasts forever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 15:12:24 No.54661911 Report

Quoted By: >>54662065

>>54661513
This whole thread is zoomers who were born after 2000, they don't know what the fuck they're talking about

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 15:15:25 No.54661930 Report

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>>54661753
last if it's something good, pokemon stopped being good in gen 3

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 15:27:14 No.54661998 Report

Quoted By: >>54662032

>>54655848
When they started trend chasing and kneeling to the kids playing on their phones

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 15:27:35 No.54662002 Report

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>>54655848
the gba

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Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 15:29:08 No.54662012 Report

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>>54655848
me

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Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 15:34:10 No.54662032 Report

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>>54661998
Smartphones weren't introduced until years after Pokémania ended and it didn't become common for kids to own them until years after that, especially in Japan. Try again zoomer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 15:35:37 No.54662041 Report

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>>54655851
fpbp came to post this /thread

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Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 15:40:15 No.54662059 Report

Quoted By: >>54662127 >>54663122

Gen 4-5.
By the time it was over most of the people who were there from day one were adults or about to graduate high school.
D/P/Pt felt like the final game in the franchise. They literally introduced Pokegod. The power levels were reality warping. More importantly the games did not "evolve" much since gen 1. They added things on top but it still felt samey. By the time gen 5 started all of the original "poke maniacs" were firmly adults. B/W were more of the same and everyone was bored of it.
The franchise never really recovered it's former spot as cultural phenomenon. Go was close but puttered out, nor did it spin out across all media. It did not cause a resurgence in movies. It did not cause the anime to become popular again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 15:41:42 No.54662065 Report

Quoted By: >>54662139 >>54662550

>>54661911
>>54661513
I'm talking about 1998-2004 era pokemon with it starting to sizzle out by 2008-10 around the time Youtube and Facebook got big and started monetizing stuff. I don't think any generation will ever have something, regardless of its audience, get that big again because there's so many avenues of communication now that are advertisment driven and keep you in one lane without seeing much outside of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 15:52:19 No.54662127 Report

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>>54662059
>Pokemon GO
It's a little sad how hard Niantic flubbed that game. The popularity for the first 2~4 months was so high that you could actually ask anyone on the street if they're playing Pokemon GO and they'll pull out their phone with their trainer walking on the screen.
6~12 months in they started adding in legitimate content but it was far too late, they actually managed to remake Pokemania and only had shovelware to put in people's hands for months.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 15:54:26 No.54662139 Report

Quoted By: >>54662199

>>54662065
I think a pokemon game could get THAT big again. The IP is far from dead. People still love it. the games have been a fucking mess since g5.

>stuck on the DS/3DS until gen 7
>games have not really changed since gen 4. The core has not changed since g1/2.
>gen 8 being a fucking mess. Dexcut, Go Like, and the gen 4 remakes proving no one actually wants classic Pokemon anymore.
>conversely PLA is the best thing to come out of pokemon since gen 2 and should be the base of games going forward
>S/V is not only a step back from PLA but a glitchy mess that runs like shit

If a competent dev got a hold of the IP and made a game that not only ran and looked good but felt like something new, not just the same shit we have had for nearly 20 years. I honestly think it can achieve something along the lines of BG3/StarF in terms of online buzz.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 16:04:07 No.54662199 Report

Quoted By: >>54662678

>>54662139
I completely agree that a game could blow the IP up again, but everyone one involved is retarded like you said, even with the IP being far from dead.
But, even then, real Pokemania was insane. Even my grandmother was able to point out and name Pikachu and Charizard at the time. I don't think we will ever get to that point again with any of the newer stuff. Mudkip was the only other pokemon I've ever heard a non-pokemon fan talk about and that was mainly because of the old meme.

I don't blame the anyone who runs pokemon for not doing it. Movies cost money, retail stores are gone, and they have an easily repeatable process to make bank on the IP. I don't even think its incompetence at times, they just know what gets them the most money with minimal effort.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 16:14:51 No.54662249 Report

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>>54655848
The Johto season of ashnime which showed the series was going anywhere

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 16:15:42 No.54662254 Report

Quoted By: >>54662443

>>54661592
No they're not, we've gone over this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 16:47:37 No.54662429 Report

Quoted By:

>>54658440
indeed

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 16:51:34 No.54662443 Report

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>>54656086
>>54662254
Dahlia just has a tan

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 16:56:55 No.54662465 Report

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>>54657367
Based

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 16:57:48 No.54662470 Report

Quoted By: >>54662506

>>54657196
They were uncool because all the kids who played the original games grew up and went into their ''pogeymanz is for kids'' phase

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 17:06:09 No.54662506 Report

Quoted By: >>54662513

>>54662470
Pokemon is for kids.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 17:07:19 No.54662513 Report

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>>54662506
Yeah and 12-year-olds think they're hot shit and don't want to play things that are "for kids"

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 17:09:18 No.54662521 Report

Quoted By: >>54662602

>>54655848
Anyone who says Gen 3 or later is retarded. Any cope about "well in my country" is usually someone confusing the fact their friend group played over Pokemania still existing. It was genuinely considered uncool to play pokemon by late elementary school or early middle school for me, which was around RSes release. The fad had died in the middle of Gen 2 and only a handful of people still kept it going in comparison.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 17:10:20 No.54662532 Report

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Only the first gen was good, gen 2 killed it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 17:13:41 No.54662550 Report

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>>54662065
Pokemania was dead by the end of 2001.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 17:22:24 No.54662602 Report

Quoted By: >>54663108

>>54662521
>"Well in my country"
>Immediately follows up with "Well in my school" argument
We were playing Red and Blue into Highscool in 2008. Sorry you had such a shit childhood.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 17:35:58 No.54662678 Report

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>>54662199
Times have changed. There is so much "noise" now that it's nearly impossible to achieve what pokemon did. Even shit like Minecraft/FNaF/Fortnight have not quite hit the same levels. WoW almost made it. LoL is actually pretty close due to the show. Marvel did achieve it, for much MUCH longer than Pokemon did, but the moment they started to put out bad movies/shows its "cultural importance" quickly dropped off. They dropped off so badly that Disney is in panic mode.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 18:44:10 No.54663108 Report

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>>54662602
>We were playing Red and Blue into Highscool in 2008
Third world countries that only received the original gameboy in 2007 don't count.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 18:45:57 No.54663118 Report

Quoted By:

>>54655848
Gen 3

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 18:47:02 No.54663122 Report

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>>54662059
>D/P/Pt felt like the final game in the franchise. They literally introduced Pokegod.
It felt more like jumping the shark than anything else. Adding gods and reality warping is just basically admitting you have no more ideas left which for gen 4 was definitely true. They ruined just about everything good in the previous games to add some ridiculous gimmick.
They had to take a step back and return to form with the next game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 19:38:34 No.54663365 Report

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>>54657346
the johto anime is when shit started to get *really* bad, with the filler mountain that replaced an entire arc that got cut last minute.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 20:50:15 No.54663676 Report

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>>54659153
>greatest Nintendo handheld generation
Hahahahaha

The DS has the weakest first party lineup of any Nintendo console out there, except for maybe GB/GBC. Even the Wii U mogs it.

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