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I feel like it's not said often enough that gen 4 has the worst starters. Every other gen has at least one starter that's consistently brought up in the best starter conversation, they just don't come up at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Nov 2023 20:13:58 No.54884125 Report

Quoted By: >>54884397

>>54884112
This is outdated. Where's the Paldea starters?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Nov 2023 20:15:31 No.54884132 Report

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>>54884120
torterra is the best starter

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Nov 2023 20:16:51 No.54884139 Report

Quoted By: >>54884161 >>54884176

>>54884120
that's because this board is the only place that loves the gen 4 starters

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Nov 2023 20:19:07 No.54884150 Report

Quoted By: >>54884159

>>54884120
gens 7 and 8 have the worst starters.
out of the classic gens, 3 has the worst starters. sceptile and swampert are just alright and blaziken is complete shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Nov 2023 20:19:16 No.54884151 Report

Quoted By: >>54884862

>>54884096
Cute Tepig

Shame about those other two ugly turds

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Nov 2023 20:20:20 No.54884159 Report

Quoted By: >>54884886 >>54884970

>>54884150
gen 5 has the worst starters

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Nov 2023 20:20:39 No.54884161 Report

Quoted By: >>54886215

>>54884139
That's presumably because /vp/ is primarily filled with people who started with gen 4. Disgusting and horrifying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Nov 2023 20:20:56 No.54884162 Report

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>>54884112
I kneel Greninja-sama and Cinderace-sama

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Anonymous Sat 18 Nov 2023 20:22:21 No.54884176 Report

Quoted By: >>54886799

>>54884139
why lie? piplup alone is a top 5 shillmon lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Nov 2023 20:25:58 No.54884195 Report

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>>54884112
starters my merch
(https://www.pokemoncenter-online.com/?main_page=product_list&character=P_POKABU)

Piplup 980
Rowlet 642
Bulbasaur 597
Squirtle 575
Charmander 528
Scorbunny 442
Sprigatito 396
Sobble 391
Quaxly 371
Grookey 362
Fuecoco 345
Popplio 297
Litten 260
Chimchar 229
Turtwig 229
Chikorita 182
Cyndaquil 173
Torchic 166
Oshawott 140
Mudkip 133
Totodile 125
Fennekin 103
Froakie 102
Snivy 93
Chespin 80
Treecko 78
Tepig 61

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Nov 2023 21:06:02 No.54884397 Report

Quoted By: >>54884401

>>54884125
Online Japanese Pokemon Center top 102 (as of November 2023)
https://www.pokemoncenter-online.com/?s=search/a

1. Pikachu 6776
2. Eevee 1989
3. Piplup 980
4. Gengar 759
5. Rowlet 642
6. Bulbasaur 597
7. Snorlax 593
8. Squirtle 575
9. Ditto 563
10. Charmander 528
11. Mimikyu 487
12. Charizard 472
13. Sylveon 457
14. Lucario 450
15. Scorbunny 442
16. Jigglypuff 432
17. Mew 424
18. Umbreon 422
19. Vulpix 415
20. Sprigatito 396
21. Sobble 391
22. Dedenne 373
23. Espeon 373
24. Quaxly 371
25. Grookey 362
26. Slowpoke 362
27. Yamper 359
28. Pichu 357
29. Psyduck 356
30. Fuecoco 345
31. Vaporeon 342
32. Leafeon 341
33. Glaceon 333
34. Flareon 330
35. Jolteon 309
36. Popplio 297
37. Litten 260
38. Morpeko 257
39. Alcremie 232
40. Chimchar 229
41. Turtwig 229
42. Drifloon 217
43. Raichu 202
44. Munchlax 197
45. Meowth 190
46. Ponyta 188
47. Chikorita 182
48. Greninja 174
49. Jirachi 174
50. Cyndaquil 173

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Nov 2023 21:07:13 No.54884401 Report

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>>54884397
51. Mewtwo 170
52. Shaymin 170
53. Swablu 168
54. Dragonite 167
55. Torchic 166
56. Marill 163
57. Koraidon 160
58. Miraidon 160
59. Cinderace 156
60. Blastoise 150
61. Oddish 147
62. Clefairy 142
63. Lapras 142
64. Oshawott 140
65. Togedemaru 139
66. Pachirisu 138
67. Venusaur 138
68. Magikarp 133
69. Mudkip 133
70. Chandelure 129
71. Rotom 128
72. Goomy 126
73. Totodile 125
74. Magnemite 121
75. Wooloo 120
76. Bewear 119
77. Gardevoir 117
78. Teddiursa 114
79. Minun 113
80. Togepi 113
81. Zacian 112
82. Zamazenta 111
83 Plusle 109
84. Whimsicott 109
85. Zorua 108
86. Lunala 107
87. Shinx 106
88. Solgaleo 106
89. Fennekin 103
90. Froakie 102
91. Garchomp 102
92. Milcery 102
93. Rayquaza 99
94. Dialga 98
95. Espurr 98
96. Lycanroc 98
97. Palkia 98
98. Litwick 97
99. Croagunk 94
100. Snivy 93
101. Inteleon 91
102. Pawmi 90

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Nov 2023 21:15:29 No.54884433 Report

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the ugliest too so no wonder

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Anonymous Sat 18 Nov 2023 22:15:55 No.54884829 Report

Quoted By: >>54884835 >>54884838 >>54885000

>>54884096
>Evolve into Fighting types
Whats with the type’s design philosophy that makes them unlikeable?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Nov 2023 22:16:56 No.54884835 Report

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>>54884829
Yeah

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Nov 2023 22:17:09 No.54884838 Report

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>>54884829
>they're all sexy
more for me

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Nov 2023 22:19:51 No.54884862 Report

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>>54884151
pignite and emboar?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Nov 2023 22:23:56 No.54884886 Report

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>>54884159
Carried by royal snake
Gen 8 all of them are lame

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Nov 2023 22:34:37 No.54884961 Report

Quoted By: >>54886149

>Josuke duck
>unpopular
how?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Nov 2023 22:35:45 No.54884970 Report

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>>54884159
Easily

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Anonymous Sat 18 Nov 2023 22:39:25 No.54885000 Report

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>>54884829
>gen 3: Fire/Fighting
>gen 4: Fire/Fighting
>gen 5: Fire/Fighting
>gen 7: Fire/Dark, but heavily themed around fighting
I usually only choose Grass and Water for a reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Nov 2023 23:29:33 No.54885355 Report

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>>54884120
>I feel like it's not said often enough that gen 4 has the worst starters.
That is one godawful take. All the Sinnoh starters have pretty good movesets and designs. Piplup is one of the very few pokemon that is as popular as Kanto ones. Sinnoh is quite far from having the worst.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2023 02:08:11 No.54886134 Report

Quoted By: >>54886141

>>54884096
Grookey could compete for the Grass position honestly

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2023 02:09:33 No.54886141 Report

Quoted By: >>54886194

>>54886134
clearly not considering how broken GF made him

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2023 02:10:18 No.54886149 Report

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>>54884961
He evolves into a carnival dancer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2023 02:14:15 No.54886167 Report

Quoted By: >>54886399

chesnaught isn't even that bad, they fucked its model up in XY and it's been paying for it ever since

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2023 02:20:40 No.54886189 Report

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4 > 1 > 7 > 6 > 8 > 9 > 5 > 2 > 3

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2023 02:22:05 No.54886194 Report

Quoted By: >>54886210

>>54886141
Comp viability =/= popularity, Incineroar was built for doubles but is still less popular than the owl

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Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2023 02:26:20 No.54886210 Report

Quoted By: >>54886221 >>54886832

>>54886194
> is still less popular than the owl
The owl was such a failure that they tried replacing it with another owl

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2023 02:26:45 No.54886212 Report

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>>54884096
This makes me sad because Chesnaught was actually pretty cool and Carnivale bird wasn't the worst design.

They murdered the Tepig line with that typing, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2023 02:26:58 No.54886215 Report

Quoted By: >>54886229 >>54886245

>>54884161
People who started with Gen 4 are a massive poriton of the playerbase thanks to how huge the DS was. It's frustrating to see, I'm in the same age range as people who began with Sinnoh but I was playing Pokemon before any of them, I think Sinnoh sucks from both a gameplay and design perspective but it's carried harder by nostalgia than any other generation, even Genwun, because at least Genwunners don't pretend like the games are objective masterpieces beyond any sort of criticism like your average Sinnohfetus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2023 02:28:17 No.54886221 Report

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>>54886210
That doesn't make any sense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2023 02:30:18 No.54886229 Report

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>>54886215
no generation is carried by nostalgia harder than hoenn

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2023 02:35:05 No.54886245 Report

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>>54886215
boooohoooo, shut up faggot lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2023 03:07:38 No.54886399 Report

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>>54886167
they fucked up his design in XY too

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2023 03:51:47 No.54886604 Report

Quoted By: >>54886778

>>54884096
Emboar is great on his own.
Furry fan art made me like Chestnaught.
But furries are unable to fix the duck one without completely redesigning it when it stops being itself.
Such a shitty design. I hope whoever designed it will get fired. Same with that Samurott shitter artist.

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Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2023 04:49:04 No.54886778 Report

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>>54886604
https://m.bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Yusuke_Ohmura
>Same with that Samurott shitter artist.
Wish already granted

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2023 04:54:24 No.54886799 Report

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>>54884176
borts lashing out

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2023 04:58:17 No.54886817 Report

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>>54884120
That's because gen 4 starters are loved equally. Gen 5 is absolute shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2023 05:03:49 No.54886832 Report

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>>54886210
The cat failed so bad they don't shill it at all anymore (and no VGC doesn't count)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2023 05:05:36 No.54886837 Report

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>>54884096
You definitely need to replace Chespin with Chikorita, lmao.

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Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2023 07:14:39 No.54887266 Report

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I am a Chespin defender. Easily my favorite starter

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