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It feels like something that just isn't all there. Southern Island is this mysterious place with esoteric messages about dreams and reality and memory, but Latios and Latias are pretty mundane legendaries with nothing to them beyond "they are smart and don't like fighting".

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Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 02:32:44 No.54937302 Report

Quoted By: >>54937311 >>54938934 >>54942217

>>54937202
has gamefreak ever acknowledged the similarities to the togepi line?

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Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 02:34:09 No.54937311 Report

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>>54937302
no

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Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 02:35:25 No.54937316 Report

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>>54937202
What does the D stand for?

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Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 02:36:53 No.54937323 Report

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>>54937316
Drowsy

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Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 02:37:20 No.54937328 Report

Quoted By: >>54937506 >>54937568

people don't want to admit it but hoenn is where the legendary bloat started

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Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 02:37:47 No.54937332 Report

Quoted By: >>54937356

>>54937209
I wonder if they were meant to be linked to Pacifidlog, that would explaining where Pokemon Heroes took inspiration from for part of the lore it gave to the Lati@s.

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Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 02:43:32 No.54937356 Report

Quoted By: >>54939014

>>54937332
pacidilog is the closest to the cave to activate the regis, the tower with rayquaza, mirage island, and geographically the southern island and is totally optional
i have an autistic fan theory that this old art of the blue haired lati trainer was from an atlantis like place because she is wearing a toga (ancient greece clothing)
this would be way different and too fantasy for the pokemon series so i can see why they could have gotten cold feet, but in my headcanon this place would be accessed by the dive hm

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Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 03:14:24 No.54937501 Report

Quoted By: >>54943197

>>54937202
>prior sublegendaries
there were no prior sublegendaries, they were the first ones to not be trios, mythicals, or box legendaries

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Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 03:16:07 No.54937506 Report

Quoted By: >>54937518 >>54938954 >>54942727

>>54937328
its true. as much as i like the Regis they just dont need to exist at all

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 03:19:47 No.54937518 Report

Quoted By: >>54937541

>>54937506
They're just the Birds/Beasts of their gen, whereas the Latis are Pokemon classified as Legendaries despite having nothing particularly special about them other than their stats.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 03:24:23 No.54937541 Report

Quoted By: >>54937555

>>54937518
?
Regis are legendaries so are the Latis, they just aren't box legends/restricted Pokemon. GF doesn't use whatever terminology you are trying to use here.

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Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 03:27:48 No.54937555 Report

Quoted By: >>54937577

>>54937541
>Gen 1: Trio, restricted before facilities were a thing, mythical
>Gen 2: Trio, two restricteds as legendary Pokémon are now used for box-arts, mythical
>Gen 3:Trio, trio of restricteds, two mythicals, and two "legendaries" with no lore or intended mystery behind them
There's a noticeable difference

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Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 03:31:11 No.54937568 Report

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>>54937328

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Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 03:32:14 No.54937571 Report

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Is this the Latias schizo thread?

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Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 03:33:48 No.54937577 Report

Quoted By: >>54937590

>>54937555
>there’s a noticeable difference
Yeah it’s just an extra set of sub legendaries but there’s two instead of 3 oooooooo

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 03:36:41 No.54937590 Report

Quoted By: >>54939081

>>54937577
>i can't accept that gen 3 started the legendary bloat because it's my favorite! >:(

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 04:22:42 No.54937788 Report

Quoted By: >>54937815

>>54937202
they are movie pokemon; they were made for the movie and put into the games as an afterthought
this is why the series started having too many legendaries and mythical pokemon; movies

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Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 04:27:29 No.54937815 Report

Quoted By: >>54937922

>>54937788
why no regi movie?
They were shoved into lucario and mew's movie, they didn't do much

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Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 04:49:06 No.54937922 Report

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>>54937815
they seem to have been the obligatory trio of 580 base stat legendaries made for the game explicitly, most pokemon get designed by the game team for the game, a handful of legendary pokemon are made in collab with the anime team for the films which is why the latis debuted at the end of gen 2 before RS released

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Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 11:02:02 No.54938934 Report

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>>54937302
I used to think they were new togepi evos when I first saw them

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 11:10:09 No.54938954 Report

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>>54937506
Regis are cool and that's why they should exist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 11:43:38 No.54939014 Report

Quoted By: >>54939056

>>54937356
Personally, I believe Mirage Island and the Southern Island were intended to be the same thing; namely, the Mirage Island we got in the final version of the game didn't exist, and it would be Southern Island that appeared in its place, with the member of the duo you meet matching the color of the game you're using (Latias in Ruby, Latios in Sapphire). How the island would be made to appear would likely have been different from the final (and, as you suggest, may have employed use of the Dive HM), but the whole 'memories and dreams' thing might have made a bit more sense if it was referring to the nature of the island - and the duo living on it - itself.

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Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 12:02:54 No.54939056 Report

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>>54937289
>>54939014
Memories and dreams are absolutely connected to the duo. They’re called the mugen pokemon in Japan, and their abilities revolve around projecting illusions, and casting their memories/visions into people’s minds. The ability is specifically called dream casting in the original script, but the dub opted to call it sight sharing.

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Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 12:15:05 No.54939081 Report

Quoted By: >>54939133 >>54941927

>>54937590

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Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 12:32:12 No.54939133 Report

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>>54939081
Why are we counting Mythicals as Legendaries?

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Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 15:16:08 No.54939613 Report

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>>54939133
Because Lengendaries is the generic super type. Sub-Legendaries, Restricted Legendaries, and Mythicals are all Legendaries.

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Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 21:13:57 No.54941278 Report

Quoted By: >>54941529 >>54941541

>>54937202
they are cool, and we deserve cool pokemon
sugimori deciding that pokemon need to be uncool was a decision that creeped in around gen 4

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Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 21:52:26 No.54941529 Report

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>>54941278
>sugimori deciding that pokemon need to be uncool was a decision that creeped in around gen 4
Extremely wrong and if anything Latios and Latias are exemplary of that concept rather than being strictly "cool".

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Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 21:53:43 No.54941541 Report

Quoted By: >>54941571

>>54941278
>sugimori deciding that pokemon need to be uncool was a decision that creeped in around gen 4
Extremely wrong and if anything Latios and Latias are an exemplary example for that concept rather than being strictly "cool".

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Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 21:54:00 No.54941545 Report

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Latias is cute!

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Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 21:59:33 No.54941571 Report

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>>54941541
>Extremely wrong
explain beta abomasnow if this wasnt something that solidified in gen 4
also why is the well known quote about luxray? contrasted with the lesser known quote that they tried to make more tough looking pokemon in gen 3 in response to backlash over the baby pokemon and cute pokemon in gen 2?

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Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 22:55:24 No.54941927 Report

Quoted By: >>54941933 >>54942154 >>54942207

>>54939081
>ultra beasts
a retard made this, alola has like 4 legendaries not counting prevos

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Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 22:56:31 No.54941933 Report

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>>54941927
wait fuck i missed the tapus, 8 i guess

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Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 23:36:12 No.54942154 Report

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>>54941927
what about the ultra beasts makes them not legendary? they stats and the uniqueness of the encounters is classic legendary

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 23:45:37 No.54942207 Report

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>>54941927
Are you one of the retards who insist that primals and megas are totally different things too?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Nov 2023 23:47:42 No.54942217 Report

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>>54937302
mos gen 1 gen and 3 pokemon look the same because they were designed by 5 or 6 artists now we have like 20 and thats why the new designs look like shit

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Anonymous Wed 29 Nov 2023 00:08:27 No.54942343 Report

Quoted By: >>54942493

>>54942207
no i hate those retards, im one of those retards who thinks we were better off without both
>>54942154
they're just the regular fauna of ultra space the same way the paradox mons are the regular fauna of area zero, they're much more analogous to those than they are to legendaries.

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Anonymous Wed 29 Nov 2023 00:16:29 No.54942395 Report

Quoted By: >>54943189

>>54937202
Smogon airplanes

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Anonymous Wed 29 Nov 2023 00:30:44 No.54942493 Report

Quoted By: >>54942827

>>54942343
you went from calling someone a retard for thinking the legendary pokemon are legendary pokemon and then when given an opportunity to explain your thinking you just shared your fanfiction, delusionally thinking its canon
babe you are cringe, rethink things

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Anonymous Wed 29 Nov 2023 00:33:43 No.54942511 Report

Quoted By: >>54942525

>>54942154
they're aliens, they're common in their dimension but not ours. those stats are actually pretty normal for over there, the power creep has gotten abysmal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Nov 2023 00:36:06 No.54942525 Report

Quoted By: >>54942697

>>54942511
deoxys is a legendary alien

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Anonymous Wed 29 Nov 2023 01:04:20 No.54942697 Report

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>>54942525
he's a legendary because the source of dna not because he's an alien, those guys are just alien animals. although granted elgyem exists so... idk it's inconsistent. maybe the feds for cloned him in a secret orre facility, would explain why beheeyem wears a suit. they wanna save their kids but they can't stand out without getting caught and experimented on too.

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Anonymous Wed 29 Nov 2023 01:10:11 No.54942727 Report

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>>54937506
the Regis are fine, they can stay. same for Deoxys.
everything else goes in the can.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Nov 2023 01:27:41 No.54942827 Report

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>>54942493
they literally say it in the game

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Nov 2023 02:27:15 No.54943177 Report

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>>54937202
>how come they were excessively overtuned compared to prior sublegendaries?
it's literally just possessing recover (and refresh) that put them over the edge
they'd have been OU without Recover

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Anonymous Wed 29 Nov 2023 02:28:56 No.54943189 Report

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>>54942395
Latias has never been a serious Smogon mon in OU, they only use it when they deem Latios too broken
it was only ubers viable in debut

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Anonymous Wed 29 Nov 2023 02:31:27 No.54943197 Report

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>>54937501
trios are sublegendaries

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