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Anonymous Thu 21 Dec 2023 23:02:39 No.55105679 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>55105725 >>55105744 >>55105749 >>55105813 >>55105897 >>55106295 >>55107540 >>55107561 >>55107658 >>55107883 >>55107891 >>55108319 >>55110100 >>55110105 >>55110116 >>55111163 >>55113890 >>55114837 >>55114846

Should Megas return?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Dec 2023 23:07:23 No.55105725 Report

Quoted By: >>55106430

>>55105679
Yes, but no new ones unless they take advantage of the gimmick of changing type/abilities mid battle like Gyarados or drastically change how the pokemon is used.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Dec 2023 23:10:13 No.55105744 Report

Quoted By: >>55105780

>>55105679
No. They were a poorly designed gimmick that lasted longer than they needed just to shill a few old pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Dec 2023 23:11:16 No.55105749 Report

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>>55105679
no thank you

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Dec 2023 23:15:09 No.55105780 Report

Quoted By: >>55105851

>>55105744
MOST of them were just "and now it's stronger", but some like Heracross, Pinsir, and Glalie did receive tools that made people use them differently than their non mega counterparts. I can't see how you can call that "poorly designed".

Alakazam, Aerodactyl, and Abomasnow were a mistake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Dec 2023 23:19:48 No.55105813 Report

Quoted By: >>55106526

>>55105679
Yes but just make a single megastone that all mons can use and also allow Pokemon without mega forms that hold it to also access the same benefits of megas but without the new form (e.g. 100 BST boost, new typing and ability)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Dec 2023 23:24:22 No.55105851 Report

Quoted By: >>55108356

>>55105780
Glalie is one of the worst megas they made. Looks like shit, plays the exact same as base form, boring ability.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Dec 2023 23:30:52 No.55105897 Report

Quoted By: >>55105943 >>55106289 >>55108312

>>55105679
Yes but from now on they only introduce a handful new ones each gen.
Retcon some of them into regular evolutions or give out evolutions inspired by them with the lore being pokemon bred from mega evolved pokemon developed their new evolutions organically.
BST caps at 555.

>3rd stage Altaria
Dragon/Flying
Natural Cure/Aerilate
+30Atk/SpA +5SpD

>Sableye evo (it is going to be ridicolous simply because of BST so i am limiting it to 500)
+30Hp/Atk/Def/SpD
Inner Focus/Analytic/Prankster

>Mawhile evo (same as with Sableye)
+30Hp/Atk/Def/SpD
Strong jaw/Intimidate/Sheer force

>Manectrike evo
+20Def/SpA/SpD/Speed
Vital spirit/Lightning rod/Intimidate

>Houndoom evo with
+30Def+10Atk/Speed +5SpA
Prankster/Flashfire/Intimidate

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Dec 2023 23:37:05 No.55105943 Report

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>>55105897
Holy minmaxing

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Dec 2023 23:41:09 No.55105969 Report

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>Megas that should come back
Venusaur
Charizard (X or Y, not both)
Blastoise
Pidgeot
Beedrill
Ampharos
Gardevoir
Gallade
Aggron
>Megas that should become normnal evolutions
Sableye
Mawile
Medicham
Sharpedo
Camerupt
Banette
Absol
Audino
>Megas that should be trashed
everything not listed, but especially megas for Psuedos and Legendaries

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 00:16:17 No.55106226 Report

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Fuck yeah. Megas are kino

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 00:26:24 No.55106289 Report

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>>55105897
>Mawhile

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 00:27:52 No.55106295 Report

Quoted By: >>55107547 >>55107851 >>55110319

>>55105679
FUCK
NO
We only need and want cross-gen evolutions. Sick and tired of these shitty evolution generational gimmicks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 00:48:46 No.55106430 Report

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>>55105725
>or drastically change how the pokemon is used.
I would reserve that for mons that are already good, as well as only giving megas to a full line.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 01:05:32 No.55106526 Report

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>>55105813
>Blanket buff

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 03:45:08 No.55107540 Report

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>>55105679
fuck no, when a pokémon needs an evolution it should get an evolution, not a stupid super form

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 03:47:10 No.55107547 Report

Quoted By: >>55107851

>>55106295
i love u low % anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 03:50:23 No.55107561 Report

Quoted By: >>55107867

>>55105679
Give lopunny her mega as a normal evo :(

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 04:10:53 No.55107651 Report

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i miss mega beedrill...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 04:13:41 No.55107658 Report

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>>55105679
Yes

Gimme my Electric/Fairy Mega Plusle and Minun

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 05:05:34 No.55107851 Report

Quoted By: >>55110060

>>55106295
>>55107547
Samefag. No one wants shitty cross gen evos like Dudunsparce and Archaludon, everyone is shitting on them since they were revealed. Meanwhile everyone love and use regional variant and Paradox

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 05:09:37 No.55107867 Report

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>>55107561
Fuck no, I want to abuse limber then gain scrappy
Megas that gave you two abilities to play with were fun

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 05:13:30 No.55107883 Report

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>>55105679
Yes, but only if they’re willing to properly rebalance every existing Mega Evolution and improve the quality of new Mega designs

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 05:15:44 No.55107891 Report

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>>55105679
Sure

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 06:01:25 No.55108033 Report

Quoted By: >>55110814

How about instead of megas, just create a new item to permanently evolve able pokemon into their mega evolutions?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 06:05:57 No.55108054 Report

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Some of the megas looked cool but thats about it. Stuff like mawile and absol should just get their megas as evolutions, make up some wierd even where a region has some catastrophe that tainted certian areas with the mega crystals energy or whatever the fuck it was that cause mega evolution.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 07:10:56 No.55108293 Report

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most of them looked like overdesigned crap

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 07:17:28 No.55108312 Report

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>>55105897
>mightyena gets cucked again

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 07:19:59 No.55108319 Report

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>>55105679
I'm sure Game Freak is dreading the day they have to announce the gen 6 remakes in 2027 and bring back Megas. maybe sugimori will have gotten over his artists block and finally give us mega flygon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 07:27:51 No.55108352 Report

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I think instead of Megas coming back they should be hybridized into their base forms. A slight stat buff and whatever ability they got as a 2nd/hidden ability (Mega Launcher Blastoise, No Guard Pidgeot, Refrigerate Glalie, Filter Aggron, Adaptability Beedrill, probably a nerfed Parental Bond Kangaskhan but base Kanga sucks shit anyways so it may not be that big a deal, etc).
Also exclusive Z-Crystal/G-Max moves nerfed in Base Power and given to their base forms as signature moves. I know a lot of them aren't that great but if you're going to erase the previous gen's gimmick then might as well keep some sort of a remnant of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 07:28:41 No.55108356 Report

Quoted By: >>55111176

>>55105851
>plays the exact same as base form
retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 07:42:40 No.55108411 Report

Quoted By: >>55108651 >>55108662

No, it put an unfair amount of focus on a small handful of Pokemon, and which ones got Megas were mostly down to popularity rather than whether or not the species needed it. I do think that some of the Megas, like Pinsir, Sableye, and others should be retooled into regular evolutions.

I think the "power up" gimmick should be something simple while playing into the theme of growing through friendship. Something like, once a Pokemon get above a certain threshold of affection, it can use a fifth move that assigned to your trainer. Like your "Trainer Move" is set to Bulk Up, so any Pokemon on your team that you've raised affection with can now use Bulk Up in addition to their four regular moves. Something like that. It doesn't need to be flashy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 08:50:07 No.55108630 Report

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Love them, maybe nerf the broken ones before bringing them back though. Shitmons like Beedrill deserve something nice, maybe they could give other gens at least one or two shitmons for variety.
Don't really need more starters or pseudos or legendaries getting them.
I would also bring back z moves but definitely only allow one or the other

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 08:57:32 No.55108651 Report

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>>55108411
I like megas but if we can't have them I'd prefer something like that rather than tera
Imagine extreme speed or ddance or something on everything

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Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 09:00:58 No.55108662 Report

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>>55108411
>my opponent after I trainer move Fake Out for the 67th bulky regenerator switch in a row

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 15:43:22 No.55110011 Report

Quoted By: >>55110018

>Only a select set of pokemon can mega evolve
That's a good thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 15:46:41 No.55110018 Report

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>>55110011
This. I’d like it if then brought the old ones back & only introduced a handful of new ones, at most.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 15:58:22 No.55110060 Report

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>>55107851
no i just like that guy bc im also a fan of granbull and dunsparce and he's been nice to me before you weirdo. also cross-gen evos are the best thing about pokémon, going back and making a meaningful, permanent addition to an old family is soulful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 16:12:25 No.55110100 Report

Quoted By: >>55110111

>>55105679
does anyone like that fish?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 16:13:48 No.55110105 Report

Quoted By: >>55110227

>>55105679
Yes. Make the universal spam gimmick Tera and just upkeep megas for a healthier meta that actually has something interesting.
The fact they can and have been individually balanced like Kang means Megas are the best way to go about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 16:15:00 No.55110111 Report

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>>55110100
It's tasty

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 16:16:55 No.55110116 Report

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>>55105679
Megas are going to return in the remakes

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 16:45:26 No.55110227 Report

Quoted By: >>55110347

>>55110105
The only way you could make megas remotely decent is if all megas were roughly the same power level as any other fully evolved Pokemon with an item. GF will never do that so it’s pointless and the mechanic is garbage

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Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 17:07:42 No.55110319 Report

Quoted By: >>55113801 >>55113876

>>55106295
*farts*

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 17:12:32 No.55110347 Report

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>>55110227
>The only way you could make megas remotely decent is if all megas were roughly the same power level as any other fully evolved Pokemon with an item.
fully evolved pokemon with an item aren't at the same power level as any other fully evolved pokemon with an item

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 18:41:46 No.55110814 Report

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>>55108033
There's some problems with this
>Megas would be able to use held items
>Being locked into one ability would get rid of some pre-mega utility like Intimidate/Moxie Gyarados
>(autism) Megas are described as being extremely dangerous, painful, traumatic, etc. in their dex entries

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 19:30:23 No.55111163 Report

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>>55105679
Yes, but they won't unfortunately.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 19:33:19 No.55111176 Report

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>>55108356
Spikes and ice stab or spikes and ice stab but it's refigerate. So different.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 19:46:39 No.55111236 Report

Quoted By: >>55112331

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 21:21:51 No.55111839 Report

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Megas made so many of my underwhelming bros usable
I can't stand that they didn't even try to compensate

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 21:31:25 No.55111886 Report

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Yes, because they're cool.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2023 22:51:05 No.55112331 Report

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>>55111236
They should have more doubles in the campaign though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Dec 2023 03:26:27 No.55113801 Report

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>>55110319
sniff

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Anonymous Sat 23 Dec 2023 03:43:08 No.55113876 Report

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>>55110319

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Anonymous Sat 23 Dec 2023 03:46:15 No.55113890 Report

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>>55105679
Fuck off. I'd rather have 4th evos instead of literal gimmicks that waste item space as well wasting man effort on gimmicks that would only get used once in a gen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Dec 2023 08:04:30 No.55114837 Report

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>>55105679
haha look at him go

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Dec 2023 08:08:45 No.55114846 Report

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>>55105679
No.

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