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Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 01:45:38 No.55469875 View View Reply Original Report

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is this true?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1wU4Gf7PI0

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 01:46:10 No.55469879 Report

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>>55469875
>is this true?
Yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 01:46:49 No.55469882 Report

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>>55469875
buy an ad

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Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 01:48:46 No.55469889 Report

Quoted By: >>55469920 >>55473526

>they're terrible because they're not power crept like my zoomie unova games that give you a fucking 130BP STAB in the early lv30s

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Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 01:53:24 No.55469911 Report

Quoted By: >>55470532

>>55469875
>Fagtoise propaganda

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Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 01:54:51 No.55469920 Report

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>>55469889
>n-no you don't understand, having no stab or even moves is LE GOOD!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 01:58:19 No.55469935 Report

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>>55469920
yeah, it makes you consider what tm's are worth giving to which pokemon for the stab bonus and also teaches you stab isnt the be all end all regardless

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 01:59:07 No.55469940 Report

Quoted By: >>55469959

>>55469920
Fucking Yikes.
I didn't even think it was that bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 02:03:22 No.55469959 Report

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>>55469940
If you thought that was bad go take a look at gen 2 Gligar.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 03:33:26 No.55470354 Report

Quoted By: >>55472064

All a pokemon needs is 2 decent moves. You are given 6 slots, one pokemon being able to solve 90% of the problems is bad and lame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 04:02:08 No.55470499 Report

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>>55469875
Only like 10 mons are actually viable in Gen I

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 04:05:55 No.55470524 Report

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>>55469935
This would be fine if you could get more than one of each TM, besides which gen 2 barely has any good TM moves, there's literally no way to give Sandslash Earthquake in GSC.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 04:07:59 No.55470532 Report

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>>55469911
>Seething trannysaur lover not handling the facts so well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 04:13:54 No.55470562 Report

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>>55469920
Yes. It is good. Learn how the game works, zoomzoom.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 04:28:22 No.55470632 Report

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>>55470532
>needs a Jewtuber to feel validated
I bet you are into NTR too

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 04:33:23 No.55470659 Report

Quoted By: >>55474952

>>55469875
"guys check out my romhack where level 14 shitmons learn flamethrower i fixed the game guys"
romhackers are mentally unwell

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 04:36:19 No.55470670 Report

Quoted By: >>55471035

>>55470632
>ohnononono, nooooooo! penisaurbros! we need to come up with some mental gymnastics on why the squirtlechads are le WRONG.
>y-yes! they're le wrong because a jewtuber has exposed us on why our sharter is objectively shit! That'll teach em!
Total bulbatranny death.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 05:12:41 No.55470839 Report

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>>55469920
>Leaves out dig, earthquake, submission swords dance body slam
Fuck u sandslash is the best ground type for gen 1. Your expected to use TMs throughout the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 05:17:47 No.55470872 Report

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>>55469935
Half the TMs are shitty Normal moves too

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 05:18:33 No.55470875 Report

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>>55469920
Grim

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 05:49:11 No.55471035 Report

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>>55470670
there are Jewtubers who said Charmander is the best, and others said Bulbasaur is the best.
it's just stupid Jews generating clicks from you, dumbass

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 07:50:03 No.55471408 Report

Quoted By: >>55471705

>>55469875
Nothing is terrible in Pokemon, it's a children's game that can be beaten with 1 Pokemon in your party and spamming its strongest move.
>b-buh these ones have lower stats
Still possible to do the above with them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 09:45:03 No.55471705 Report

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>>55471408
Terrible is a comparison, it has nothing to do with whether they can beat the game or not - obviously nobody thinks that. Stop being a dense, pedantic prick

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 09:49:33 No.55471722 Report

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>>55469920
Slash and sand is more than enough.
*crack* *sip*

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 09:53:02 No.55471729 Report

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>>55471035
Wow what a nothing response. As expected from a dilating bulbacuck. Even charizardfags aren’t as shameless.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 11:28:24 No.55472064 Report

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>>55470354
>All a pokemon needs is 2 decent moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 11:32:16 No.55472075 Report

Quoted By: >>55472084

>>55469875
why dont you just play the game and find out
short answer is no with some exceptions like golbat most pokemon breeze through the vast majority of the game including bulbasaur pikachu and charmander
i dont think making certain sweeping adjustments through romhacking is a bad idea at all but thats just retarded clickbait that makes it sound like hes never even played the games

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 11:35:38 No.55472084 Report

Quoted By: >>55475745

>>55472075
Dogshit movepools are a two way street
Your opponents are also pathetically easy because they have nothing
In fact it's worse for the npcs since they just use the latest level-up moves and can't use TMs

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 12:14:01 No.55472186 Report

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>>55469875
Stop shilling your shitty hack like you did here with Crystal (takes a shit all over it's) Legacy.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 12:32:52 No.55472247 Report

Quoted By: >>55472255 >>55472266 >>55474935

Zard had it pretty rough but was okay, Benisaur was probably a better choice, and would shine if you agreed no psychics. Both were better than Blastoise. Raichu was good when it got Surf.

Disregard jewtubers, here's how the meta back then was really like https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/gameboy/367023-pokemon-red-version/faqs/20844

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 12:34:46 No.55472255 Report

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>>55472247
>Bulbacuck is also an HIVeefag
lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 12:38:02 No.55472266 Report

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>>55472247
>Jewtubers are bad but Gamefags is better because it's the one with a literal who that's favoring MY argument.
go back.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 12:50:09 No.55472304 Report

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>N-no you need to listen to some kike who wasn't even born when the game was already solved by Azure Heights
Post nose

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 12:57:19 No.55472325 Report

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>no, no, NO! you need to listen to some dated ancient guide because I said so!
Funny that even that link list Venuchump as a mediocre grass starter. Chadrizard and Chadtoise clears it despite not being the best.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 13:00:10 No.55472335 Report

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>>55469875
>Venusaur is TERRIBLE
>just don't look at how busted its 80 Speed + 100 Special Razor Leaf crits are
>and if you run into anything not killed by Razor Leaf you can just toxic + leech seed and even put rest on it to make the stalling even worse
>but it's TERRIBLE dude trust me
>and Charizard? Yeah dude also terrible
>I don't care that it learns Slash and has 100 Speed so once again it's a guaranteed crit move it doesn't learn like, a flying move or whatever, so it's bad!!
>it's uhm... completely outclassed by Scyther so you should never use it! Ignore the fact that Scyther is super rare and a version exclusive!!!
>>55469920
Yeah Sandslash is sooo bad let's just ignore the fact that it can learn Swords Dance, Body Slam, Rock Slide and Earthquake to be an absolute monster while also being fairly bulky.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 13:02:19 No.55472344 Report

Quoted By: >>55472506

All the gen 1 starters are good. Go to johtoddlers unovaborts and paldeaphiles if you wanna fight who's the worst one

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 13:08:34 No.55472377 Report

Quoted By: >>55472412

Zard was better than most other fire types, Shlomo. Blastoise was screwed over by special not being split yet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 13:16:48 No.55472412 Report

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>>55472377
>Surf
>Blizzard
>Strength or Body Slam
>Dig or Earthquake
glhf

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 13:31:29 No.55472484 Report

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Water had a shitload of good mons even back then that could outcompete Blastoise for a spot on a comp team. Fire and grass barely had anything that could match a starter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 13:34:39 No.55472506 Report

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>>55472344
don't forget kalos and galar

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 13:50:50 No.55472582 Report

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>>55469920
>fast pokemon with a high crit ratio move in gen 1

you literally and factually do not need more

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 13:51:33 No.55472585 Report

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>Actually caring about competitive pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 13:53:24 No.55472595 Report

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>Actually being a spineless chickenshit

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Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 13:54:45 No.55472604 Report

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>>55472582
*blocks u're path*
but yeah sandslash is one of the most convenient pokemon in all of 1

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 13:56:06 No.55472611 Report

Quoted By: >>55472622

>>55472582
To be fair Sandslash isn't actually that fast to the point where it can reliably take advantage of Slash in the same way other alternatives like Persian, Pinsir or Dugtrio can, you're better off slapping Earthquake on it instead alongside other good physical moves like Body Slam or Strength.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 13:56:46 No.55472615 Report

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>>55469920
> Permacrit Slash.
> Dig
> Rock Slide
> Filler

YOU DON'T PLAY GAMES YOU NIGGER.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 13:58:24 No.55472622 Report

Quoted By: >>55472630

>>55472611
its the same as persian, its always crit. i believe its 64 speed you need and he has 65
try it!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 13:59:34 No.55472628 Report

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>yawnfag turns out to be a kike and scared shitless of getting his arse kicked
Yeah, I'm not surprised

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 13:59:49 No.55472630 Report

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>>55472622
Really?
I've never actually used Sandslash since I tend to always pick Red and go with Scyther instead if I want a Slash user, I actually had no idea it was a fixed value for it to become guaranteed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 14:00:23 No.55472634 Report

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>(insert schizophrenic assblasted smoggie greentext)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 14:56:59 No.55472907 Report

Quoted By: >>55472932

Y'all niggas just gonna ignore that the NPC trainers are complete jokes if you don't give the mons OK level up moves?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 15:00:57 No.55472923 Report

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>>55469920
Retarded mutt

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 15:03:04 No.55472932 Report

Quoted By: >>55472945

>>55472907
NPC trainers aren't insular.
Unless you're going back to the Poke Center after every single battle you're going to be fighting three or four back to back on most routes.
Giving them busted Pokemon would just make the game needlessly frustrating.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 15:05:40 No.55472945 Report

Quoted By: >>55472958

>>55472932
So instead you'll just have a bunch of filler content that provides no actual gameplay in exchange for XP on your way to the next gym where the actual boss still has garbage moves and is also a fucking joke

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Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 15:08:53 No.55472958 Report

Quoted By: >>55472997

>>55472945
>filler content
I find it hard to believe your team won't get at least a little worn down after so many fights back to back.
An NPC trainer might not kill one of your mons but it'll still chip off a bit of health that'll make the next fight marginally harder, and as you stack more and more of these up the more likely it is that you do lose a mon or even get totally swept by the proceeding encounters.
Also I don't know why you say the gym leaders have garbage move sets when Koga is literally stallmaxxing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 15:16:32 No.55472997 Report

Quoted By: >>55473009

>>55472958
>Moves of two types that are annoying but not actually dangerous that loses to the monkeybrain "hit hard and fast" strategem
Yeah that's a gen 1 team

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 15:18:21 No.55473006 Report

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test

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 15:18:45 No.55473009 Report

Quoted By: >>55473052 >>55473931

>>55472997
Can you think of a single gym leader throughout the entire series that this doesn't apply to?

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Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 15:24:04 No.55473042 Report

Quoted By: >>55473107

>>55469935

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 15:24:58 No.55473050 Report

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>>55469935
It “teaches you” that there are correct choices and wrong ones, and the former are very few. And the penalty for getting it wrong is never getting to assign that move again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 15:25:03 No.55473052 Report

Quoted By: >>55473059

>>55473009
>But the other games are shit too!!
Yes, yes they are

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 15:26:04 No.55473059 Report

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>>55473052
Why are you here exactly?

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Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 15:29:44 No.55473090 Report

Quoted By: >>55473217 >>55473367 >>55473824

>>55470524

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 15:33:37 No.55473107 Report

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>>55473042
>Fly
>Double Edge
>Swift
>Hyper Beam
Seems alright for a 130 Speed 105 Attack mon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 15:52:21 No.55473210 Report

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>>55472582
Sandslash is pretty damn good
>Evolves by surge
>slash crit sweeps Erika except maybe Victreebel?
>Free x-speed on Mr.Mime for sweep
>mogs Koga and Blaine
>tanks Giovanni except Dugtrio crits and sweeps
>mogs Bruno and Agatha
>tanks Lance

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 15:53:40 No.55473217 Report

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>>55473090
I like to believe this anon didn't have an emulator or a GSC rom, but was so offended by this retard >>55470524 that he went out and played the entire game just to prove him wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 16:15:08 No.55473367 Report

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>>55473090
Tell me where I can get multiple Earthquakes or Body Slams in gen 1

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 16:39:35 No.55473518 Report

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>>55469875
It is true, but I think people are too obsessed with every typing having a strong STAB option.
Like in Gen 1, ghosts and dragons were used more for their defensive properties with ghost being immune to the best typing in the game and fighting, while dragon resists the three starter types.

I don't agree with some of his choices. There are better ways of buffing Pokemon or giving them a niche without resorting to fanfic-tier stuff and completely altering many moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 16:41:22 No.55473526 Report

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>>55469889
Off of base 90 attack.
Unironically balanced.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 16:41:34 No.55473530 Report

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>>55469875
To be fair
I don’t think pokemon needing TMs to be strong is a problem
It’s part of gen 1’s design philosophy

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 16:54:14 No.55473620 Report

Quoted By: >>55473918

>>55472582
Sandslash is slow and doesn't even get the slash crit bonus you retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 16:57:23 No.55473643 Report

Quoted By: >>55473666

>dude just use these single use TMs to "fix" this one pokemon on your team!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 17:00:43 No.55473666 Report

Quoted By: >>55473990

>>55473643
There are 50 TMs and you can only use 6 Pokemon, how is this an issue?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 17:14:22 No.55473722 Report

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>>55469875
Yes a lot of them are pretty shit for no reason. Some of it makes sense from the perspective of a single player game (Onix) but some of it is pretty baffling. Aerodactyl doesn't learn any rock moves until gen 3

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 17:32:45 No.55473824 Report

Quoted By: >>55474555

>>55473090
>False Swipe
>Gen 2
Yeah nice try

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Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 17:47:18 No.55473918 Report

Quoted By: >>55474977

>>55473620
every species benefits from those crit moves, the speed-crit calculation gets multiplied by 8. at base 64 speed, youd normally have (64/2)/256 crit rate = 1/8, so at 65 speed sandslash gets >1 so 'guaranteed' crits (limited to 255/256)
even paras crits 40% with slash
have you honestly played the game youre talking about

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 17:49:53 No.55473931 Report

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>>55473009
bw elesa

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 17:58:17 No.55473990 Report

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>>55473666
Literally half the TMs are useless (more than half if you don't use Mew)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 18:00:28 No.55474008 Report

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reminder that gen 1 has a tm for softboiled and only chansey and mew can learn it

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 18:04:57 No.55474047 Report

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>>55470524
>there's literally no way to give Sandslash Earthquake in GSC.
You get Earthquake at Victory Road and before that you can just teach it Dig which you find at the park.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 19:35:52 No.55474555 Report

Quoted By: >>55474626

>>55473824
What did you mean by this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 19:47:30 No.55474626 Report

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>>55474555
he's been mandela'd

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 20:41:39 No.55474935 Report

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>>55472247
Don't miss this if you can... The guy was a turbo-autist

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Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 20:43:50 No.55474952 Report

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>>55470659

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Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 20:46:00 No.55474969 Report

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>>55469935
Other Pokémon are less dependent on tms than others. Even if you were right not being able to reobtain tms in the postgame was ridiculous.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 20:47:21 No.55474977 Report

Quoted By: >>55475088

>>55473918
Sandslash only gets the standard slash crit bonus. The speed threshold to get the extra crit is 85 which he doesn't reach

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 21:03:49 No.55475088 Report

Quoted By: >>55475110

>>55474977
It misses the 85 speed crit bonus but gets the secret crit damage% bonus from having exactly 75 base HP and 55 base special (don't tell smogon about this one)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 21:08:40 No.55475110 Report

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>>55475088
Retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Feb 2024 22:51:01 No.55475745 Report

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>>55472084
This, most of what makes Battle Facilities even halfway difficult is that your opponents can use TM/Tutor/Egg moves to give their Pokemon useful STAB and coverage options.

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