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Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2024 23:14:43 No.55606357 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>55606583 >>55606766 >>55606772 >>55606784 >>55606887 >>55606932 >>55607735 >>55608650 >>55610768

Outside of Fire, Water and Grass, these are the secondary typings that have never been used for a starter Pokemon:
>Normal
>Bug
>Electric
>Rock
>Ice

Which would you like to see, and what sort of Pokemon should have it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2024 23:19:39 No.55606375 Report

Quoted By: >>55606397 >>55606856

Fire/Bug spider. The web and abdomen could be like the wick and body of a bomb. Water/Ice maybe for a regional Empoleon, or like a Swan Lake-inspired Quaquaval regional.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2024 23:24:08 No.55606397 Report

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>>55606375
Well it’s very likely that Empoleon will get a regional form in ZA so that’s possible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2024 23:56:25 No.55606583 Report

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>>55606357
Water/Grass or Water/Bug sea pig as a pig

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2024 23:58:54 No.55606600 Report

Quoted By: >>55606605 >>55606607 >>55606614 >>55606634 >>55606774 >>55606905 >>55607100 >>55609419 >>55609836 >>55609877 >>55612141

Does a Normal secondary typing do anything other than give you a weakness to Fighting?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2024 23:59:51 No.55606605 Report

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>>55606600
Ghost immunity

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2024 00:00:08 No.55606607 Report

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>>55606600
Ghost immunity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2024 00:01:24 No.55606614 Report

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>>55606600
Ghost immunity..

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2024 00:04:14 No.55606628 Report

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A what immunity?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2024 00:05:40 No.55606634 Report

Quoted By: >>55606643

>>55606600
STAB Tackle

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2024 00:08:26 No.55606643 Report

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>>55606634
Oh fuck..

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2024 00:32:11 No.55606766 Report

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>>55606357
You forgot Dragon. Megas don't count.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2024 00:33:11 No.55606772 Report

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>>55606357
water/bug drowned mosquito pool

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2024 00:33:31 No.55606774 Report

Quoted By: >>55606903

>>55606600
Ghost immunity..
Normal is only bad against Rock, Steel, and Ghost types, and Water/Grass/Fire could cover that pretty thoroughly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2024 00:34:33 No.55606784 Report

Quoted By: >>55606815 >>55610560

>>55606357
I've always been interested in a Grass/Bug type that isn't dogshit. Would be cool to see Game Freak turn one of the worst type combos in the game into a competitive menace.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2024 00:39:14 No.55606815 Report

Quoted By: >>55606827

>>55606784
It would have to be a glass cannon with some sort of coverage against steel....and poison.....and fire.....and flying

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2024 00:41:48 No.55606827 Report

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>>55606815
Steel, Poison, and Fire are all covered by Ground.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2024 00:45:37 No.55606844 Report

Quoted By: >>55606852 >>55606858

Fairy has been used as a secondary typing (Primarina), but Fire/Fairy hasn’t been used at all. In fact it’s the only secondary typing for a starter that doesn’t exist.

Fire/Electric is similar in that the only Pokemon with that typing is one form of Rotom.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2024 00:46:30 No.55606852 Report

Quoted By: >>55606857 >>55606885

>>55606844
>In fact it’s the only secondary typing for a starter that doesn’t exist.
Huh??

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2024 00:47:09 No.55606856 Report

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>>55606375
>anthro spider waifu
hot! i don't think tpc has the balls tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2024 00:47:24 No.55606857 Report

Quoted By: >>55606863

>>55606852
It’s the only secondary typing that hasn’t been paired with one of the three starter typings.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2024 00:47:35 No.55606858 Report

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>>55606844
Fairy/Fire is almost as busted as Fairy/Ground. Game Freak made Fairy stronger than Gen 5 Dragon and they refuse to nerf it so they can't just go busting out the broken type combos like that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2024 00:48:36 No.55606863 Report

Quoted By: >>55606870 >>55606885

>>55606857
>It’s the only secondary typing that hasn’t been paired with one of the three starter typings.
But as you said, Primarina is Water/Fairy, so it in fact has been paired with one of the starter typings.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2024 00:49:53 No.55606870 Report

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>>55606863
I mean it’s the only secondary typing where ONE of the three starter typings hasn’t been paired with it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2024 00:51:59 No.55606885 Report

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>>55606863
>>55606852
Ffs man, look at this. Fire/Fairy is the only one of the unused typings where part of the typing is Fire, Grass or Water.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2024 00:52:37 No.55606887 Report

Quoted By: >>55606904 >>55606907

>>55606357
A bug type starter is the easiest way to get us to not use said starter

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2024 00:55:43 No.55606903 Report

Quoted By: >>55606923

>>55606774
Bibarel strats are real
Helps that it gets cheesy abilities too

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2024 00:55:43 No.55606904 Report

Quoted By: >>55606919

>>55606887
Fuck off. Bugs are some of the coolest and cutest pokemon.

If anything, it won't be overwhelmingly popular with girls, so that's the only reason it probably won't ever happen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2024 00:55:46 No.55606905 Report

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>>55606600
ghost immunity + normal STAB

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2024 00:56:04 No.55606907 Report

Quoted By: >>55608987

>>55606887
Filtered.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2024 00:57:53 No.55606919 Report

Quoted By: >>55606925 >>55606939 >>55607235

>>55606904
Theyre weak early game shitmons, they have no use in long term gameplay like a starter should.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2024 00:58:36 No.55606923 Report

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>>55606903
Normal is actually a pretty good secondary type since it comes with 1 weakness and 1 immunity and it provides strong neutral coverage. As seen with Bibarel, all it takes is a strong move/ability/stat pool to make a Normal type broken. Mega Lopunny was no joke either.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2024 00:59:45 No.55606925 Report

Quoted By: >>55607210

>>55606919

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2024 01:01:04 No.55606932 Report

Quoted By: >>55606944 >>55606953 >>55609335 >>55610033

>>55606357
What moves should I teach him?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2024 01:02:09 No.55606939 Report

Quoted By: >>55606950

>>55606919
Bug is a weak type, yes, but so are Grass, Psychic, Rock, Ice, and Poison. You can make strong Bug type Pokemon that play into the type's strengths. They just won't be super good in Doubles where Incineroar and Rock Slide are everywhere.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2024 01:02:58 No.55606944 Report

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>>55606932
Flamethrower, mega drain, poison gas and smokescreen

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2024 01:04:22 No.55606950 Report

Quoted By: >>55606966 >>55606970

>>55606939
Grass is ass, ice is obliterated by fire, rock dies to water, and most poison types get destroyed easily. Those types are all weak

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2024 01:05:12 No.55606953 Report

Quoted By: >>55607190 >>55610015

>>55606932
>Bug Buzz
>In Gen 2
Cringe

Assuming this isn't running off of the pre-type split:
>Bug Buzz
>Flamethrower
>Petal Dance
>Light Screen/Stun Spore
It actually has pretty decent special bulk meaning it can make good use of Light Screen. At the same time, Stun Spore is a strong Hail Mary option that can win you a battle you should've lost because of the quartering of the opponent's speed and the paralysis hax.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2024 01:07:43 No.55606966 Report

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>>55606950
Poison types aren't actually easily destroyed. Poison has 2 weaknesses (Psychic, Ground), both of which there are immunities to, and 5 resistances (Fairy, Poison, Bug, Grass, and Fighting). It's very easy to position Poison types since you can just switch to a Dark or Flying (or both, see: Mandibuzz, Yveltal) type to nullify its weaknesses. Poison's Achilles' Heel is its piss poor offensive presence due to lacking strong offensive moves and having Steel be immune to it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2024 01:09:05 No.55606970 Report

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>>55606950
You missed the point. The point was that you can make strong Pokemon of even the worst types. Ice has Chien Pao and Iron Bundle. Grass has Rillaboom and Ogerpon. Poison has Naganadel and Glimmora. Rock has Tyranitar and uh....

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2024 01:19:01 No.55606995 Report

Quoted By: >>55607069

I’m surprised this thing is the only Fire/Electric. It has quite a few resistances. You’d need to watch out for Ground unless it also had Levitate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2024 01:37:15 No.55607069 Report

Quoted By: >>55607157

>>55606995
It's only weak to Ground, Water, and Rock - so the same as the base Fire type - but it brings along a resistance to Flying and Electric. I've always imagined an incredibly fast Fire/Electric cheetah Pokemon that leverages the type's offensive prowess rather than defensive. Something like:

>Cheetah Pokemon
>Type: Fire/Electric
>Ability: Tough Claws/Flash Fire/Volt Absorb
>HP: 60
>Attack: 95
>Defense: 60
>Special Attack: 70
>Special Defense: 60
>Speed: 165

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2024 01:48:13 No.55607100 Report

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>>55606600
Immunity to ghost as well as stab normal moves, which are fairly prevalent throughout the early to mid game.

Also normal types generally have very large move pools for whatever reason.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2024 01:58:58 No.55607157 Report

Quoted By: >>55607202

>>55607069
Damn boy, he fast! Also the definition of a glass cannon. He’d have the lowest HP and Def of any starter, so hopefully whatever’s in front if him is dead before it can move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2024 02:07:58 No.55607190 Report

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>>55606953
That sounds pretty good. I’ll try that out.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2024 02:11:09 No.55607202 Report

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>>55607157
It'd be fairly hard to use in game, but 165 speed would make it a monster when fighting other players. The only unboosted Pokemon that could outspeed it would be Deoxys-S and Regieleki.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2024 02:12:41 No.55607210 Report

Quoted By: >>55607233

>>55606925
Volcarona is the exception that proves the rule, and isn't exactly early-game, is it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2024 02:18:27 No.55607233 Report

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>>55607210
Volcarona and Pheromosa and Buzzwole and Genesect and Scizor and Heracross and Durant and Scolipede and Lokix and Ribombee and...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2024 02:18:36 No.55607235 Report

Quoted By: >>55607251

>>55606919
they're weak because gamefreak makes them weak by design, they could easily make a powerful bug if they wanted to.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2024 02:21:26 No.55607251 Report

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>>55607235
Bug is generally a lot better in Singles than in Doubles because it's defensively strong and can make good use of U-turn. The strongest Bugs are also better in Singles than Doubles. People whose only knowledge of comp comes from Wolfe Glick or Aaron Zheng believe that Bug is a weak type just because of its poor representation in doubles.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2024 04:26:06 No.55607735 Report

Quoted By: >>55611542

>>55606357
>Electric
mossy, flightless, thunder dragon
the joke is that it's "static" because it doesn't move giving it electric typing
looks like Salamance with tattered drooping wings, head and body closer to the ground like Dragon Zombie in Wo-Chien colors

>Grass/Electric
>Ability: Overgrow/Static/Dragon's Maw
>HP: 110
>Attack: 60
>Defense: 80
>Sp. Atk: 120
>Sp. Def: 100
>Speed: 60
Signature Move: Ionic Storm, electric type Stored Power

>Bug
Giant rideable, EDF inspired fire ant
the joke is that it's big and intimidating but fragile
looks like Araquanid without the bubbles in Torkoal colors

>Fire/Bug
>Ability: Blaze/Intimidate/Weak Armor
>HP: 60
>Attack: 120
>Defense: 60
>Sp. Atk: 100
>Sp. Def: 60
>Speed: 125
Signature Move: Stompede, bug type Wild Charge

>Ice
Orca
the joke is that they are "ice cold" hunters
looks like an Orca

>Water/Ice
>Ability: Torrent/Strong Jaw/Dark Aura
>HP: 100
>Attack: 110
>Defense: 80
>Sp. Atk: 60
>Sp. Def: 100
>Speed: 80
Signature Move: Cruel Maw, ice type Fishious Rend

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2024 10:38:46 No.55608512 Report

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bumo

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2024 11:45:48 No.55608648 Report

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I don’t get how Normal can be a secondary typing. Normal is like the absence of a type. How can you be Normal if you also have fire powers? It’s like saying someone is a very tall person of average height.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2024 11:47:01 No.55608650 Report

Quoted By: >>55608705

>>55606357
Dragon too no? What starter gets dragon type?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2024 12:16:09 No.55608705 Report

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>>55608650
None if we don’t count Megas, but the types in the OP are the only ones that don’t have any starter representation at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2024 14:03:47 No.55608987 Report

Quoted By:

>>55606907
Bugsy.. erotic..

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2024 15:55:05 No.55609335 Report

Quoted By: >>55609358

>>55606932
The moveset is incomplete but you can run shit like razor wind, vapor pulse, flamethrower/fire blast, bug buzz

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2024 16:02:00 No.55609358 Report

Quoted By:

>>55609335
Like learn set is right, TMs are missing I should say.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2024 16:17:30 No.55609419 Report

Quoted By:

>>55606600
GHOST IMMUNITY YOU FUCKINH RETARD KYS NOW

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2024 18:04:25 No.55609836 Report

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>>55606600
Why didn’t any of you tell him about the immunity to ghost?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2024 18:14:42 No.55609877 Report

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>>55606600
STAB Return

Also Normal is a good type, only one weakness, resisted by 2 types but they always get good coverage, STAB Normal attacks are great wallbreakers no one expects

Thematically, they can be Normal from Sound mastery, like music or shouting, or from being wild and untamed; Mega Punch is a mighty wallop, its not skilled and precise like a Fighting move but when used by a true beast it hits hard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2024 18:46:28 No.55610015 Report

Quoted By: >>55610411

>>55606953
it's a post-split hack, but this set could still work. whoever compiled this forgot to add that it also learns cotton spore through a tutor tho.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2024 18:49:57 No.55610033 Report

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>>55606932
Mine has Vapor Pulse, Bug Buzz, Laughing Gas, and Smokescreen

Acc reducing moves are very good in earlier gens

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2024 20:31:06 No.55610411 Report

Quoted By: >>55610827

>>55610015
Where’s the cotton spore move tutor? I don’t remember seeing him

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2024 21:08:36 No.55610560 Report

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>>55606784
i don't think gamefreak would want to make a bug type that isn't a shitmon, Volcarona is the best we've got

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Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2024 21:49:26 No.55610718 Report

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Bugs are cool, it’s too bad they seem to hate them. Like was it really necessary to make them weak against Fairy?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2024 22:07:25 No.55610768 Report

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>>55606357
Not that it hasn't happened before (Bulbasaur, Rowlet) but GF generally keeps the starters single-type and it is hard to imagine how a starter could acquire the Bug type without already starting out as one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2024 22:32:10 No.55610827 Report

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>>55610411
Same anon who asked where Cotton Spore Tutor was. Its in the Kanto Botanical Garden near vermillion. I thought it did damage, but its still a status move. Thought I put this here for others to find.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2024 22:39:51 No.55610853 Report

Quoted By: >>55610882

Where can I find Blazelle?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Mar 2024 22:47:04 No.55610882 Report

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>>55610853
either get a calymore (porceling's evo) and trade with an npc on route 32, or wait until you've beaten rocket mahogany invasion and can go to route 38 to catch one.

Next, get a fire stone and use it on him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Mar 2024 01:36:49 No.55611542 Report

Quoted By: >>55611674 >>55611715

>>55607735
I wouldn’t mind an orca, though we have Kyogre already.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Mar 2024 02:15:24 No.55611674 Report

Quoted By: >>55611715

>>55611542
Imagine having a Kyogre-light starter orca, that would be cool. Legendaries are available too late to be enjoyable in playthroughs.

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Anonymous Tue 19 Mar 2024 02:24:33 No.55611715 Report

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>>55611674
>>55611542

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Mar 2024 03:55:42 No.55612141 Report

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>>55606600
Neutral to ??? type

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