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>>55698455
> Those anyone
Jesus fucking christ, you amerimutts only sprak english and you don't even know it properly, that's almost as bad as the mutts who write "should of".

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 06 Apr 2024 16:36:28 No.55698687 Report

Quoted By: >>55698943 >>55699281 >>55701411 >>55701560 >>55702270

>>55698496
Sure.
Here's Gen 1. This is including all 3 versions, Red Blue and Yellow like the Gen 2 one you posted. I'll do Gen 3 a bit later.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 06 Apr 2024 17:18:34 No.55698927 Report

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>>55698679
Actually, I'm British, this is what I had for tea on Tuesday.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Apr 2024 17:22:46 No.55698943 Report

Quoted By: >>55699281

>>55698687
Mew needs surf and strength

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Apr 2024 17:23:14 No.55698946 Report

Quoted By: >>55699933

>>55698455
This is a terrible way to show what you can get when. You're not getting every starter, nor are you getting Sunflora before Bugsy. Dunsparce is not as easy to get as Sentret. Nobody considers Celebi a regular encounter you just pick up before Whitney.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Apr 2024 18:22:20 No.55699281 Report

Quoted By: >>55701411 >>55702270

>>55698687
I thought Spearow could be found on Route 22
>>55698943
No, he merely needs Teleport or Fly and access to Route 25

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 06 Apr 2024 20:46:02 No.55699933 Report

Quoted By: >>55701128 >>55702259

Okay I'm back. I redid Gen 2 as the OP one is slightly wrong. Here is an accurate version. It is strange that people used to think Johto had bad distribution - you can get almost all the mons fairly early on; it's no less balanced than Gen 1 or Gen 3 and beyond.
>>55698946
Pic related is now accurate. Also, whether or not you can get all 3 starters is based on how many games/friends you have to trade with. But that is the same for every single Generation, so this is the best way to display the starters for each Gen.

Gen 3 next.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Apr 2024 20:50:44 No.55699964 Report

Quoted By: >>55699971 >>55699981

use these
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_ffM1uUOhfVgxkQfhe41qPq1KHZ_ISAzxnJtHt23u9M
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Np4qpfwQ_84w2jY5h8KPeIMJzxY-FOuV9SgSPexS70ghttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1cn5awGNEVZx3wuv-2EsIn3e746RfH5-Spm7mnP-_PxU
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rYii00OuCG3Ys0toeu7y7Gugic0EniQzK03zFXzN5fM

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Apr 2024 20:51:59 No.55699971 Report

Quoted By: >>55699981

>>55699964
oops
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Np4qpfwQ_84w2jY5h8KPeIMJzxY-FOuV9SgSPexS70g

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cn5awGNEVZx3wuv-2EsIn3e746RfH5-Spm7mnP-_PxU

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Anonymous Sat 06 Apr 2024 20:54:15 No.55699981 Report

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>>55699964
>>55699971
These are great but they're messy and they include all mons of all Gens, whereas the OP wants just the new mons in the new Gen.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 06 Apr 2024 21:33:46 No.55700156 Report

Quoted By: >>55701550 >>55702312

idk why this tiermaker was missing Archeops

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 06 Apr 2024 21:44:15 No.55700194 Report

Quoted By: >>55700321 >>55701312 >>55702312 >>55706007

Gyms 2 & 6 are skippable until gyms 5 & the e4 respectively so I replaced them with nearby roadblocks

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Apr 2024 21:51:40 No.55700228 Report

Quoted By: >>55700974

>>55698679
>sprak

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 06 Apr 2024 22:14:24 No.55700321 Report

Quoted By: >>55701289

>>55700194
you can get rayquaza before the elite 4 thoughbeit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Apr 2024 00:14:03 No.55700974 Report

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>>55700228
The 'e' is next to the 'r' buddy. You're not a phoneposter, are you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Apr 2024 00:56:27 No.55701128 Report

Quoted By: >>55702259

>>55699933
>"accurate" version
>is less accurate

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Anonymous Sun 07 Apr 2024 01:48:40 No.55701289 Report

Quoted By: >>55701392 >>55701477 >>55702265 >>55702312 >>55706085

Platinum (I actually don’t know where if any the roadblock between gyms 4 and 5 so I just used grand lake hotel as the cutoff)

>>55700321
Not in Ruby and Sapphire, which is what the image is

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Apr 2024 01:54:23 No.55701312 Report

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>>55700194
>>55700194
I think part of why I love gen 3 so much is that they give you a fuck ton of good options THAT early on.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 07 Apr 2024 02:01:31 No.55701342 Report

Quoted By: >>55707126

This tier maker sucked

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Apr 2024 02:14:53 No.55701392 Report

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>>55701289
you can trade for chatot before the second gym

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Apr 2024 02:21:54 No.55701411 Report

Quoted By: >>55702270

>>55698687
>>55699281
>needs Teleport or Fly and access to Route 25
Which can be done before the 2nd gym, you don't need to beat Misty to access Route 25

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 07 Apr 2024 02:48:17 No.55701477 Report

Quoted By: >>55706074

>>55701289
i love sinnoh's dex, but between the honey tree shitmons that are obnoxious to obtain and the fuckton of legendaries. it's too small to remove 4 lines like that :(

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 07 Apr 2024 03:15:39 No.55701550 Report

Quoted By: >>55701565 >>55702979

>>55700156
In comparison to BW2

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Apr 2024 03:19:05 No.55701560 Report

Quoted By: >>55702270

>>55698687
You could rush Surf and get to Zapdos with only 3 badges couldn't you? Skipping Surge and Erika would only leave out Fly and Strength which aren't needed to get to the power plant. Or are the power plant mons listed under 5 badges because you need the "5th" badge for Surf?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Apr 2024 03:20:58 No.55701565 Report

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>>55701550
Idk why Bouffalant was moved, was an accident. Should be under 8

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Apr 2024 03:32:39 No.55701601 Report

Quoted By: >>55701635

A good pokemon game should give you the option to obtain AT LEAST 1-2 pokemon of every kind before facing the 8th gym and all regional pokemon should be obtainable before the post-game.
Hence why Johto is trash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Apr 2024 03:45:16 No.55701635 Report

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>>55701601
>A good pokemon game should give you the option to obtain ARBITRARY NUMBER OF POKEMON pokemon of every kind before facing the 8th gym follow an arbitrary rule that only exists to penalize Johto
fixed for you retarderino

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Apr 2024 08:26:06 No.55702259 Report

Quoted By: >>55706057

>>55701128
Explain how it's less accurate.
Oh wait, you can't because >>55699933 is 100% correct.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Apr 2024 08:27:07 No.55702265 Report

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>>55701289
i don't like that you put glaceon that high

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 07 Apr 2024 08:29:41 No.55702270 Report

Quoted By: >>55702285 >>55706966

>>55698687
>>55699281
>>55701411
>>55701560
Thanks for your feedback, here is the fixed version.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Apr 2024 08:33:13 No.55702285 Report

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>>55702270
If you're allowing Mew then technically you can obtain all of these after the 1st Gym Badge. Maybe even earlier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Apr 2024 08:41:32 No.55702312 Report

Quoted By: >>55705369

>>55700156
I like the way how Unova is distrubuted, though of course most see holding back stronger Pokemon later in the game as a negative. I think it allows Unova to keep its sense of discovery alive longer as an entirely new region that's lost in BW2.
>>55700194
>>55701289
On the other side of the coin, Hoenn and Sinnoh allow for more strong and/or iconic Pokemon to join the party earlier which makes for a better experience at the cost of frontloading the region. Rarely are people experimenting and swapping their team past the halfway point.

Connor

Connor Sun 07 Apr 2024 13:08:18 No.55702979 Report

Quoted By: >>55703126

>>55701550
Do you have one for all the pokemon in black and white 2?

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Anonymous Sun 07 Apr 2024 13:54:29 No.55703126 Report

Quoted By: >>55706107

>>55702979
Just add these to the gen 5 mons one

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Anonymous Sun 07 Apr 2024 14:29:41 No.55703238 Report

Quoted By: >>55703687 >>55705316 >>55706127

Silly one

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Apr 2024 16:11:42 No.55703687 Report

Quoted By: >>55705316

>>55703238
Fucking brutal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Apr 2024 22:05:32 No.55705231 Report

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Bump

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Apr 2024 22:22:16 No.55705316 Report

Quoted By: >>55705985

>>55703238
>>55703687
this is so misleading though, XY has some of the best Pokemon distribution in the series. you need to get it through your heads that GF doesn't give a shit about your autism of only using the newest Pokemon, they expect you to use old ones too

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 07 Apr 2024 22:35:43 No.55705369 Report

Quoted By: >>55706116

>>55702312
I always appreciate how the elemental monkeys are good enough to teach aid beginners with type coverage while remaining disposable enough to encourage players to swap them out as soon as more options become available

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Apr 2024 00:33:16 No.55705938 Report

Quoted By: >>55705972 >>55705976

>>55698455
hoppip can be found as early as route 29 in crystal. sunkern is after bugsy. snubbull can be found in route 34/35 in crystal. you don't need surf to get girafarig. qwilfish and remoraid are post game because they can only be obtained with the super rod.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Apr 2024 00:44:16 No.55705972 Report

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>>55705938
>qwilfish and remoraid are post game because they can only be obtained with the super rod
Those can be obtained with any rod during swarms as along as you have that person's number.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Apr 2024 00:45:18 No.55705976 Report

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>>55705938
>qwilfish and remoraid are post game because they can only be obtained with the super rod
Those can be obtained with any rod during swarms as along as you have that person's number and swarms are easy to manipulate

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Apr 2024 00:47:42 No.55705985 Report

Quoted By: >>55706127

>>55705316
They have lots of pokemon but I'd argue they give you too many strong pokemon too early which is bad pokemon distribution. People are meming about Flamigo being broken in S/V but Hawlucha's right there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Apr 2024 00:54:04 No.55706007 Report

Quoted By: >>55707122

>>55700194
>Gyms 2 & 6 are skippable until gyms 5 & the e4 respectively so I replaced them with nearby roadblocks
wait, that's a thing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Apr 2024 01:04:09 No.55706057 Report

Quoted By: >>55706072 >>55708259

>>55702259
-you can't get the togepi egg until you beat falkner, so that should be after badge 2
-you can't get a king's rock until you have surf, so politoed and slowking should be after badge 4
-you can't get eevee from bill before ecruteak, so espeon and umbreon should be after badge 3
-ampharos, girafarig, and octillery shouldn't be there at all if you're going off crystal

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Apr 2024 01:07:44 No.55706072 Report

Quoted By: >>55706079

>>55706057
> ampharos, girafarig, and octillery shouldn't be there at all if you're going off Crystal
Not them but I think all the other lists include their version mons too

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Anonymous Mon 08 Apr 2024 01:08:03 No.55706074 Report

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>>55701477
i wish platinum did the thing other 3rd versions did where they made both version exclusives available but excluded some non-version exclusives. i could live without croagunk or floatzel if it means getting to use mismagius and skuntank

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Apr 2024 01:09:38 No.55706079 Report

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>>55706072
yeah that one's a nitpick but i figured i'd mention it anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Apr 2024 01:10:32 No.55706085 Report

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>>55701289
You can only evolve Glaceon on the way to snowpoint village, so 6 would be correct

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Apr 2024 01:15:38 No.55706107 Report

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>>55703126
I didn't know Castform was in BW2 natively until now jesus

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Apr 2024 01:17:03 No.55706116 Report

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>>55705369
but players who stick with them aren't kneecapping themselves too much. they're not the best, nor should they be, but they're decent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Apr 2024 01:20:07 No.55706127 Report

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>>55703238
it feels a bit odd that the majority of kalos's new mons are obtained after the first badge
I get that the section between the first and second badges is longer than most but wouldn't it make sense to spread things out over more of the game instead of front-loading all the new mons?
>>55705985
any open world game is going to inevitably lead to some people rushing to get the strongest things before sweeping the entire storyline for shits and giggles

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Apr 2024 05:41:04 No.55706966 Report

Quoted By: >>55708282 >>55708290

>>55702270
some more improvements
>venonat is only available on routes 12-15 and safari zone, meaning it requires 2 badges
>voltorb is on route 10; it only requires 2 badges
>you only need a minimum of 3 badges to use surf, and a minimum of 4 badges to use surf and strength (for articuno)

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Anonymous Mon 08 Apr 2024 06:25:07 No.55707078 Report

Quoted By: >>55707111 >>55708326

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Apr 2024 06:44:38 No.55707111 Report

Quoted By: >>55708083

>>55707078
Don't you get a monkey before your first badge, not after?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Apr 2024 06:58:16 No.55707122 Report

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>>55706007
once you deliver the mail to steven, you can leave dewford, but in order to fight Norman you have to beat Brawly at some point. There's nothing stopping you from skipping Winona entirely other than the 8-Badge-Checker-NPC at the E4, but you also can't use Fly outside of battle the whole time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Apr 2024 07:01:14 No.55707126 Report

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>>55701342
You can get Mimikyu before the ghostium? I just did a Ghost-monotype team and every resource said it can only be encountered after the trial.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Apr 2024 13:41:14 No.55708083 Report

Quoted By: >>55708096

>>55707111
yeah but you can’t get the evolution stones until wellspring cave

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Apr 2024 13:45:18 No.55708096 Report

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>>55708083
i don't think that's how it works

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Anonymous Mon 08 Apr 2024 14:40:50 No.55708259 Report

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>>55706057
>Togepi
Fair, fixed, see pic related.
>kings rock
Wrong. Wild Slowpoke have a 2% chance of holding them.
>Eevee
Fair, fixed, see pic related.
>Ampharos, Girafairg, Octillery
These lists are including all versions.
So all in all I got 3 mons wrong. Not really that inaccurate.
But anyway, pic related is fixed.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 08 Apr 2024 14:47:41 No.55708282 Report

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>>55706966
>Venonat
Is available on Routes 24/25 in Yellow, so that is only 1 badge required
>Voltorb
You're right, Game Freak swapped the top of Route 10 to Route 9 in GSC and HGSS so I got confused. Thanks. Pic related is fixed now.
>Articuno
It says '5th badge', referring to the Soul badge, which is required for Surf.

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Anonymous Mon 08 Apr 2024 14:53:31 No.55708290 Report

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>>55706966
>Venonat
Is available on Routes 24/25 in Yellow, so that is only 1 badge required
>Voltorb
You're right, Game Freak swapped the top of Route 10 to Route 9 in GSC and HGSS so I got confused. Thanks. Pic related is fixed now. Magnemite is available on Route 10 in Yellow so fixed to include it as well.
>Articuno
It says '5th badge', referring to the Soul badge, which is required for Surf.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 08 Apr 2024 15:02:17 No.55708326 Report

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>>55707078
Sandile/Darumaka/Scraggy can be encountered with 2 badges, there’s a bit of Route 4 that’s accessible before the gym
Karrablast is catchable with 4 badges.
Mienfoo and Druddigon can be caught before 7 badges; there is grass accessible outside Dragonspiral before the gym.
Bouffalant/Rufflet/Vullaby/Tornadus/Thundurus are all Catchable before gym 8, you can go to the grass on Route 10 before beating the gym.

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