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>>55776946
This. Psyspam and Trick Room will always be lame playstyles that should be viable but never meta. Psyspam and Trick Room was mostly healthy in Reg F. The Caly forms are so broken and it's even worse because they enable these lame teams.
>shuts off an entire category of item just by existing (Unnerve)
>can boosts (sp)attack through KOs
>ridiculous min maxed stat spreads
>buff snow so the Ice Rider can be even more tanky
>100 accuracy spread moves with over 100 power, and also ignores partner (despite being smart enough to lower PBlades/OPulse accuracy for balance reasons)
It feels like they are someone's shitty OP donutsteel OCs.

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Anonymous Mon 22 Apr 2024 21:49:17 No.55777064 Report

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>>55777037
>It feels like they are someone's shitty OP donutsteel OCs.
Given how shit the horses and the onion-headed twat who rides them, I’d always assumed this was the case. Also don’t forget Neutralising Gas from Weezing being unable to turn off their ability.

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Anonymous Mon 22 Apr 2024 22:27:52 No.55777278 Report

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>>55776931
BDSP Metagames, Smogon's fanfics

UU and RU were great

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Apr 2024 22:29:12 No.55777285 Report

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>>55776946
I'm not very bothered by them so far but Glacial Lance and Astral Barrage are indeed pretty braindead. Calyrex-Shadow's stats are unreasonable and I can imagine will carry many a bad player.

It's also encouraging more Incineroar spam.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Apr 2024 22:30:24 No.55777291 Report

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>>55777064
>Also don’t forget Neutralising Gas from Weezing being unable to turn off their ability.
That's such bullshit. Very donut steel.

Unrelatedly, I think Neutralizing Gas has the potential to be a super strong archetype.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Apr 2024 22:31:43 No.55777301 Report

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>>55777037
when you put it that way, the horses probably will ruin the unrestricted formats

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 22 Apr 2024 23:18:59 No.55777563 Report

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>>55777291
>I think Neutralizing Gas has the potential to be a super strong archetype.
It existing was what allowed pic to have its time in the light since being released back in 2006, and I imagine the same would be true for Slaking. Having Pokémon whose abilities hold them back but become monsters when their abilities get turned off is something I’d like GF to explore more now that Neutralising Gas is a thing (akin to how Trick Room is a gimmick but still works nonetheless), but they probably won’t given those types of Pokémon aren’t powerful right out the gate and that seems to be what they’re going for nowadays.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 22 Apr 2024 23:46:58 No.55777706 Report

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>>55777563
I wasn't speaking about Regigigas being the restricted, although I did consider that given the meta is centralizing around Calyrex-Shadow.

I have seen nobody at all experimenting with Neutralizing Gas and I myself am struggling to even know where to start. There's so much potential that it's mindboggling.

Who knows, maybe even Skill Swap could do something, although I think there are too many immune mons and also the meta is too fast-paced for it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Apr 2024 00:26:26 No.55777944 Report

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>>55777285
The horses are even more cancer than ever thanks to Tera.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Apr 2024 00:28:20 No.55777956 Report

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>>55777037
>It feels like they are someone's shitty OP donutsteel OCs.
Swooshie in a nutshell.
That's the vibe Leon always gave me. Like that someone finally got high enough up the ladder and so decided to make their OC donut steel from their elementary school notebooks into a real character.

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