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Anonymous Wed 01 May 2024 00:06:20 No.55817445 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>55817463 >>55817498 >>55818118 >>55818957 >>55819058 >>55821039 >>55825048

Tomorrow starts the new regulation.

Which restricted mon will dominate the meta

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 May 2024 00:08:25 No.55817463 Report

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>>55817445
Shadow Rider

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 May 2024 00:15:52 No.55817498 Report

Quoted By: >>55817507 >>55817525 >>55822172 >>55826451

>>55817445
Tera Ghost Shadow Rider Calyrex will mog the SHIT out of Reg G with no context, complimented flawlessly by Close Combat Urshifu to get rid of any pesky normal types that can otherwise ignore Astral Barrage spam.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 May 2024 00:16:54 No.55817507 Report

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>>55817498
>context
Meant contest, shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 May 2024 00:21:15 No.55817525 Report

Quoted By: >>55819537 >>55819550

>>55817498
Mystic tera water water spout Kyogre a counter?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 May 2024 02:21:02 No.55818118 Report

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>>55817445
Tera Fairy Calyrex Shadow Rider.
It's so annoying. I have to predict their tera fairy everytime so I can barely do damage

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 May 2024 06:04:30 No.55818957 Report

Quoted By: >>55819537 >>55826451

>>55817445
The horses are so much better than every other restricted it's insane. Shadow Rider is much easier to use and less reliant on setup but is frail for a restricted and there are a lot of powerful dark types who can hold it back. Ice Rider has ridiculous bulk and Ice/Ground coverage is insane pressure into the meta, however it is more reliant on finding an opportunity for setup compared to Shadow Rider. Terapagos is probably the third strongest.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 May 2024 07:01:18 No.55819058 Report

Quoted By: >>55819679

>>55817445
Meh

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 May 2024 11:19:41 No.55819537 Report

Quoted By: >>55819719 >>55820150

What the fuck were they thinking with niggerrex ice rider?
Stellar Tera Cluster does 25% to it
2 shots everything
We need Dynamax Dialga back for this one.
>>55817525
>Mystic tera water water spout Kyogre a counter?
how to spot a campaignshitter
You need choice scarf + some other form of speed control to get a strong water spout off and also have to worry about Groudon teams, Koraidon and even the shitty turtle
>>55818957
I have been using Terapagos today and it seems rather weak but at least its not Giratina and Solgaleo am I right fellas?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 May 2024 11:23:35 No.55819550 Report

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>>55817525
wellspring cucks kyogre hard

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 May 2024 12:18:41 No.55819679 Report

Quoted By: >>55821733

>>55819058
Go play your fanfic meta

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 May 2024 12:33:35 No.55819719 Report

Quoted By: >>55820150

>>55819537
I mean based on results the horses and Terapagos are head and shoulders above the rest. Even Koraidon and Zamazenta, who saw a big rise early on, are falling off a bit in more recent tournaments.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 May 2024 14:57:49 No.55820150 Report

Quoted By: >>55820226 >>55820237 >>55820374

>>55819537
>>55819719

Is it universally agreed that Mewtwo is the weakest of all the restricted mons?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 May 2024 15:19:59 No.55820226 Report

Quoted By:

>>55820150
Lugia is probably the worst imo

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 May 2024 15:22:59 No.55820237 Report

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>>55820150
I think it's hard to argue otherwise, Calyrex powercrept it the shit out of it while other low tier restricteds at least have something that makes them unique, like typing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 May 2024 15:31:20 No.55820270 Report

Quoted By: >>55820300 >>55820335

>Zacian gets a nerf
>But Calyrex remains untouched

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 May 2024 15:38:32 No.55820300 Report

Quoted By: >>55820318

>>55820270
Calyrex is tied to paid DLC

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 May 2024 15:42:52 No.55820318 Report

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>>55820300
wrong

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 May 2024 15:48:07 No.55820335 Report

Quoted By: >>55822774

>>55820270
Ice Calyrex got nerfed with its signature move actually, though it was probably more for parity reasons. Unfortunate that they didn't take this chance to realize 120 is still too high for both of them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 May 2024 15:56:30 No.55820363 Report

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>Ghosts rely in 80BP single-target Shadow Ball as their main attacking move for 20 years with no issue whatsoever
>Calyrex gets a 120BP spread Astral Barrage that's stronger than Shadow Ball even after spreading while mogging every single ghost stat-wise

I hate Gen 8 so much

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 May 2024 16:00:10 No.55820374 Report

Quoted By: >>55826439

>>55820150
That would Cosmog by default.
But among traditional restricteds with over 600 BST it’s Giratina
Mewtwo is only bad because Calyrex-S just outclasses it. Otherwise it’d be pretty decent option.
Giratina just sucks because its a Stallmon with common weaknesses, no recovery, and not really that strong either. Lugia would be next but it at least has Multiscale and Recover and a good speed tier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 May 2024 16:08:45 No.55820411 Report

Quoted By: >>55820992

>Restricted allowed
Not playing then.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 01 May 2024 17:38:18 No.55820829 Report

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>finally come up with a strategy that nukes the dumb horse before it can attack
>EVERY horse since then has had focus sash
I'm going to lose it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 May 2024 18:08:07 No.55820992 Report

Quoted By: >>55823188

>>55820411
Hide in your fanfic corner then

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 May 2024 18:17:58 No.55821039 Report

Quoted By: >>55821175

>>55817445
Metagame in vice grip tier:
Caly S
Caly I
Anti meta tier:
terapagos
Washed up jobber tier:
Groudon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 May 2024 18:46:46 No.55821175 Report

Quoted By: >>55821183 >>55821685

>>55821039
Too many people are discrediting Groudon.

Pair him with walking wake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 May 2024 18:47:44 No.55821183 Report

Quoted By: >>55821217

>>55821175
Why would you run Groudon over Koraidon
>So you can pair it with Walking Fraud
Lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 May 2024 18:53:22 No.55821217 Report

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>>55821183
And get run over by Flutter Mane and or Zacian?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 May 2024 20:13:24 No.55821685 Report

Quoted By: >>55822198

>>55821175
It's true Groudon isn't completely outclassed by Koraidon. Precipice Blades not having perfect accuracy is probably the bigger reason for it's downfall, a Restricted's main move really should not be unreliable and Groudon no longer has a broken Primal form (or lack of competition as a sun setter now that Koraidon is around) to justify the low accuracy. Groudon actually does have much better synergy with the viable paradox sun abusers compared to Koraidon (Ground/Fairy coverage with Flutter and not doubling your fairy weakness with Bolt/Wake/Moon). Koraidon is just more reliable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 May 2024 20:26:00 No.55821733 Report

Quoted By: >>55822216

>>55819679
that isn’t fun either. only faggots play pokemon competitively.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 May 2024 22:14:49 No.55822172 Report

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>>55817498
I've been playing Regulation G on Showdown to get a preview of it and Shadow Rider is not as dominant as I thought it would be. Half the time I managed to beat him before he even got a chance to do anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 May 2024 22:20:51 No.55822198 Report

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>>55821685
Koraidon doesn't have a good spread move though. I guess you could say he doesn't need it but it's definitely a really nice thing to have.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 May 2024 22:23:41 No.55822216 Report

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>>55821733
This, Pokémon has the most unbalanced unfun PvP of any video game. It solely exists as a farce to make the FOTM shillmons and CHARIZARD look good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 May 2024 00:14:22 No.55822774 Report

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>>55820335
It got Clear Amulet which is a massive buff for it.
Ice nigger is borderline unstoppable. What can stand its ground against it folds to the grass gorilla and firecat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 May 2024 01:49:08 No.55823179 Report

Quoted By: >>55823215

We really need to resurrect /vgc/
I miss the consistent discussion of sweaty rank faggotry

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 May 2024 01:51:10 No.55823188 Report

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>>55820992
> fanfic corner
Lando is basically smogon's mascot. Only casuals have some weird hang ups about using "legendaries".

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 May 2024 01:58:38 No.55823215 Report

Quoted By: >>55823251

>>55823179
It really makes me wonder what the percentage of this board even plays pokemon let alone competitively.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 May 2024 02:06:34 No.55823251 Report

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>>55823215
Most are coomers or shitposting trolls. Unironically the best pokémon player in this board are the midwitts from showderp.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 May 2024 11:07:54 No.55824599 Report

Quoted By: >>55824717

Wild sets you have ran into so far?
Yesterday I ran into Cresselia with Leftovers and the following moves
Trick Room
CALM MIND
Dazzling Gleam
and it's new one from Legends Arceus
Also just ran into Dark Pulse Tornadus
On cart btw
Does the restricted format bring out the schizo in people or are cart players genuinely this bad?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 May 2024 11:54:39 No.55824717 Report

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>>55824599
The start of a new season is always wild because skill ratings are unpredictable, someone who is top 500 now could have finished with something like rank 10,000 last season. But being a new format also means people are experimenting, random dark moves for Calyrex and Lunala aren't that unusual.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 May 2024 13:52:26 No.55825048 Report

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>>55817445
I'm really liking Zamazenta. It does so well into the balance cores most teams run. It's stupid fast for how tanky it is and how hard it hits with Body Press. You can't intimidate it; you can really only wall it with ghosts or ghost tera, but guess what? You have five other Pokemon that can deal with those.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 May 2024 20:10:41 No.55826373 Report

Quoted By: >>55826398

Just ran into Clear Amulet Calyrex Shadow and Okidogi with speed EVs

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 May 2024 20:15:33 No.55826398 Report

Quoted By: >>55826460

>>55826373
And? How did it go?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 May 2024 20:25:28 No.55826439 Report

Quoted By: >>55828672

>>55820374
>Otherwise it’d be pretty decent option.
No it wouldn't.
Even back during the Gen 4 days Mewtwo rarely saw play. He's always been utter crap during restricted formats.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 May 2024 20:27:13 No.55826451 Report

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>>55817498
>>55818957
This.
Meta got stale and boring as shit really quickly because it's Horses feat Terapagos featuring Incineroar.
Shit's gay and lame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 May 2024 20:30:38 No.55826460 Report

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>>55826398
I am not playing seriously because I am using random mons that I want the rank master ribbon for but I won. If he had spell tag or life orb on Calyrex like a human person would he wouldve won most likely(if he had sash he would've still lost because it died to 3 Articuno attacks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 May 2024 23:38:28 No.55827304 Report

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Last time I organized an event was on US/UM, I remember you could download the new rules and share them or something like that.
So I'm back at this, and this Saturday I will be organizing a VGC tournament. Can the Switch play locally? Do they need to download the rules like before, and can they share them?
Myguess is that you need to play online to be able to apply the rules, though I guess that if you manually check the teams, you can play offline if you checked that they are legal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 May 2024 05:55:33 No.55828672 Report

Quoted By: >>55828999

>>55826439
Plenty of people used Mewtwo in gen 5.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 May 2024 07:46:56 No.55828999 Report

Quoted By: >>55829009

>>55828672
Gen 5 didn't have a restricted format.

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Anonymous Fri 03 May 2024 07:52:00 No.55829009 Report

Quoted By: >>55829446

>>55828999
? You aight schizo?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 03 May 2024 12:13:12 No.55829446 Report

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>>55829009
Anon I.....

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