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One funny thing about this whole kerfuffle is that there is not even the "Luxiem boogeyman" to unite this thread EN fanbase away from their internal issues because they as well are in a low point.
With the "cripple tally" looking like *this* so far and the only stream over 10k being a graduation bait by Ame things are at a relative low point for the whole western youtube vtuber scene.