>>21648850Multiple things.
>1. Collabs Overdone to hell especially cross gender.
Inb4 "but Japan does" they don't. And never did like this. Don't pretend you watched them at debut because you would never ever see something like kenmochi crashing a jk gumi off collab. And in modern nijisanji you wouldn't see it either, surprise collabs are a rarity and there's tons of JPs that almost never collab (ngo and toko for example)
People want to watch the streamer they like and interact with them. Seeing them with friends is a nice change of pace but only when it's a change of pace, not the norm.
>2. Lack of care for the audience I think suspensions are stupid and a waste of time. But when a streamer does something stupid and fucks over their fans, they should at the very least apologize for it. But they don't because they believe they're above faults and their fans should just eat it up or leave. And surprise, people just leave.
>3. Too much focus on "muh family"The livers care more about each other and the group than they do about fans and they expect us to care as well.
A big example is they constantly reference in jokes or things that happen in other people's streams and act like we should know what it is or we're not real fans. They act as if we need to like every single member and keep up with them. There's like 20+ people and it hasn't been a year, that's not happening and I hate most of them.
All this does is alienates the fans.
>4. Low effort Very few of them put any effort into their streams anymore. You just don't see fun or interesting things. Most of them are just coasting on their success at this point and are doing bottom of the barrel gaming content. Rosemi can't even bother to prepare for a pizza stream. Collabs are always "scuffed" aka they can't be assed to look at a basic manual for the game they're playing.
3 off collabs in 1 week all aping off the first.
I'm sure there's more but that's really what bothers me.
Plus the Fandom is shit, and yeah it's kind of a big deal. Even in hololive I can go to their generals or communities and we can basically all agree irys has the ugliest model ever designed, and mori is a complete cunt. You can't do any of that to nijien anymore. You can't complain that a man crashed an off collab because you're a "unicorn" for wanting to watch 2 girls in am off collab. You can't complain about rosemi ditching her pizza stream for a vshojo collab mid stream. You can't even talk about how selen looks like a fucking loser.
It's a terrible community to be apart of.