>>76011776Maybe now you can argue that but you can't sit there with a straight face and tell me that Rose's debut stream was anything special. She literally just sat there and played Minecraft for like 12 hours straight. If she didn't get caught in the perfect storm of just happening to stream on the same day and at the same time /wvt/ was created, she'd have gone nowhere. It would have been a damn shame because she's really got some talent but next to none of it was shown in her debut or even the first few subsequent streams. Artemis' stream had some actual production value and thought put into it and stands on its own as a spectacular debut independent of the circumstances.