>>54661772There is literally no gain in collabing with males as a member of Hololive unless you are a big fan of Holostars like Bae. Male collabs are not any more fun than collabs with the girl and they don't bring any additional audience. Yet women who are not fans of Holostars go out of their way and fight their wranglers in order to collab with males to their own apparent detriment. Why? The only conclusion is that it's some sort of a power fantasy to them. They get off to exercising control and doing things the audience doesn't want. Both sides know it's not actual cucking but both sides do actually think of it as "cucking".