>>58498665Probably because the only thing that really changes when an indie joins Vshojo is that they collab with and talk about other members more often. If you know about and watch an indie before they join, it really doesn't feel that different after they join. In contrast, someone like Henya literally came into existence as part of Vshojo. I think part of the reason Nyan actively avoided all Vshojo collabs after she left, was because the distinction between being part of Vshojo and being an indie is actually pretty thin. She felt like she had to exclusively collab with and raid indies for awhile to really hammer in the fact that she was no longer part of the group.