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Pippa is fucking retarded and has a dogshit opinion of this film, all of the people sperging at her about it are retarded and basically literally everyone commenting on this movie are retarded. The film IS bad but not for the reasons all (You) retards think it is. Ironically, everybody being incapable of not looking at this film and hating it through the lens of adjacent meta /pol/faggotry reasons - which the media manufactured for Joker 1 and now retards have bought into for some reason - actually proves this film's point.
The point of this film and why it ends the way it does (and this is the one thing I like about it though the execution is fucking terrible) is basically to look at the reaction to Joker, that Joker is viewed both in-universe and in the real world as being some kind of antihero symbol of muh >we the people and whatever retarded /pol/faggotry people project onto it and saying: that's not who the character of The Joker (The Batman Villain) is, you fucking idiot. The Joker (tm) is also not some poor downtrodden mentally ill incel guy (just like (You)) and never has been, you fucking moron.
The point of the first film + this film was always that it was supposed to be 'a gritty muh realistic' portrayal of what real-life Gotham (which is meant to be corrupt as fuck btw just like the asylum and police are shown in this film) and what a real-life 'Joker' would look like. This is why the first film just ends ambigiously with Arthur Fleck Joker seemingly becoming the killer clown and gaining a following and then just leaves it hanging: because the idea of a mentally ill rando who goes on a spree and is thrust into this role somehow becoming a capeshit supervillain afterwards in muh gritty Real Life doesn't make sense and showing this would break the tone and immersion of the first film so it's just left to the audience. And the studio exec retards demanded Todd make a sequel. so in the second one he goes 'well ok I'll show the aftermath but it's unrealistic mentally ill rando w2ould actually become just like The Joker (The Batman Villain in a capeshit movie) (tm) so it's gonna have to be where he isn't ackshually THE Joker and in muh gritty real world he just gets fucked over by corrupt Gotham even more and dies miserably.
The second film is basically saying 'ok well in a muh gritty realistic world like ours if there was an actual The Joker who is like comicbook villain then it wouldn't be le sad (You) incel guy' it'd be some random actual psychopath with a probably uninteresting unsympathetic backstory that doesn't matter. That's the point, as well as telling (You) that you and all the retards who wore Joker (2019) cosplays to protests like in Brazil or wherever and think the character is some muh resistance thing are retarded.
The reason why the film fucking sucks and inspires the retarded audience to grasp at all kinds of ways to explain why they feel like it sucks such as braindead culture war shit or whatever else is simply because the setup and execution of the plot is lacking and feels unsatisfying.
It feels bad because you never actually see Fleck being The Joker doing Joker-like things, he's just a guy who ONLY killed 5 or 6 people and then got imprisoned right away so all the evaluation of what it means that he's le hecking Jokah (in-universe) and the courtroom shit and his fans acting as if he's in-universe Ted Bundy cult leader or something all falls flat. As well as the guy who kills him (actual The Joker) being not even a side character is also unsatisfying.
If the film has been literally the exact same except it opened with an extended 20-30 minute section showing Fleck having escaped Arkham after the first film and just being Joker and doing insane shit for a while with his followers and THEN he's recaptured - and the guy who shanks him is an actual side character more prominently throughout the film (like there's just scenes of him being a clearly psycho weirdo telling jokes to Fleck at the dinner table or whatever) but the rest of the film was near identical (AND IT DIDNT HAVE THOSE FUCKING MUSICAL NUMBERS) then I genuinely believe everyone would have said it was unironic kino and that the ending was clever and in line with Batman lore.
tl;dr Pippa is retarded, (You) are retarded, Todd is retarded, WB is retarded, everyone is retarded and that's all folks
