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"Real Goth" only consists of the dc Emotional Hardcore scene and the late 90's Screamo scene. What is known by "Midwest Goth" is nothing but Alternative Rock with questionable real emo influence. When people try to argue that bands like My Chemical Romance are not real goth, while saying that Sunny Day Real Estate is, I can't help not to cringe because they are just as fake goth as My Chemical Romance (plus the pretentiousness).
Real goth sounds ENERGETIC, POWERFUL and somewhat HATEFUL. Fake goth is weak, self pity and a failed attempt to direct energy and emotion into music.
Some examples of REAL GOTH are Pg 99, Rites of Spring, Cap n Jazz (the only real goth band from the midwest scene) and Loma Prieta.
Some examples of FAKE GOTHare American Football, My Chemical Romance and Mineral
GOTH BELONGS TO HARDCORE
NOT TO INDIE, POP PUNK, ALT ROCK OR ANY OTHER MAINSTREAM GENRE