>>37216485It's shortsighted to have such a strict definition of what an idol has to be. Even if you don't consider them to be traditional idols, they still would fall within the realm of alt idols
>>37216804I understand why Kiara feels the way she does due to her own past experiences but it's hard to take her seriously on this when her opinion is at odds with what many of the JP girls think and want. It just comes off as putting her own past on too much of a pedastal