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FORTUNE MAGAZINE ARTICLE ON VTUBERS

Anonymous Tue 28 Sep 2021 19:31:45 No.10536463 View View Reply Original Report

>Once an oddity of Japan’s digital culture, VTubers have become a global hit—and brands want in

Basic bitch info if you already know vtubers but, even then, a well written introdutory article

Link :https://archive.is/GB702
Also OP pic contains the article in its entirety

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Sep 2021 19:38:53 No.10536669 Report

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>>10536463
>Business article about chuubas
>Mentions PekoMoona
>Not just "hey look at how much these fuckers make via superchats"
>Includes a subtle diss at western social media culture
Definitely some of the better mainstream coverage of chuubas so far.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Sep 2021 19:40:14 No.10536707 Report

Quoted By: >>10536904 >>10549912 >>10552027

>From September 23, 2021.
And why did you bring this up now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Sep 2021 19:40:22 No.10536711 Report

Quoted By: >>10536781 >>10579410

>>10536463
Usually this kind of article talks about Kizuna Ai, Gura, Pekora, Nijisanji, Vshojo etc. With pictures of them.
This one is almost entirely focused on Pekora. And then wastes a picture on the netflix vtuber. Why are nousagis like this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Sep 2021 19:41:19 No.10536737 Report

Quoted By: >>10536779 >>10537045 >>10537205 >>10538052 >>10544211 >>10572385 >>10584500

>>10536463
>Referring to Nijisanji as Hololive's "rival agency"
Oh boy

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Anonymous Tue 28 Sep 2021 19:43:04 No.10536779 Report

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>>10536737

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Sep 2021 19:43:10 No.10536781 Report

Quoted By: >>10537017

>>10536711
Not even a nousagi but I kinda found it cute how much this fucker obviously likes Pekora. I'd rather have a nousagi write an article like this than have another ameteurish cringe BBC "look at this weird shit" segment any day.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Sep 2021 19:48:14 No.10536904 Report

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>>10536707
It's not even a week old.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Sep 2021 19:52:13 No.10537017 Report

Quoted By: >>10555831 >>10555939 >>10579367

>>10536781
I found it pretty cringe when he started talking about the "deep" friendship of pekomoona. It's like when you are explaining anime to your normie dad and then you talk about the deep friendship between Naruto and Sasuke.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Sep 2021 19:53:18 No.10537045 Report

Quoted By: >>10537101

>>10536737
They're not wrong, both do fight for being the "household name" in Japan, not that you new fags to vtubers would actually know about that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Sep 2021 19:55:41 No.10537101 Report

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>>10537045
Imagine calling people newfags when you miss the obvious anachronism in that statement.

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Anonymous Tue 28 Sep 2021 19:55:42 No.10537105 Report

Quoted By: >>10537122 >>10537184

>>10536463
Article about Pekora and not one mention of Miko?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Sep 2021 19:56:15 No.10537122 Report

Quoted By: >>10537237

>>10537105
Who?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Sep 2021 19:59:13 No.10537184 Report

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>>10537105
Miko is off limits for mainstream coverage since she slings out NIGGER like normal people breathe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Sep 2021 20:00:15 No.10537205 Report

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>>10536737
Makes sense. Hololive is a lot bigger and a lot more popular which is why they get all the mainstream coverage. Nijisanji is nothing more than a footnote.

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Anonymous Tue 28 Sep 2021 20:01:26 No.10537237 Report

Quoted By: >>10538246

>>10537122
I bet Pekora hasn't forgotten

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Sep 2021 20:03:41 No.10537333 Report

Quoted By:

>>10536463
>you have entered the mainstream
I always knew this was coming but still not ready

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Sep 2021 20:27:23 No.10538052 Report

Quoted By: >>10579636 >>10579870

>>10536737
No matter how you see them, they are Rivals. Niji's still bigger on JP, the core audience.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Sep 2021 20:33:28 No.10538246 Report

Quoted By: >>10558494

>>10537237
It's hard to forget the biggest leech

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 28 Sep 2021 21:00:29 No.10539223 Report

Quoted By: >>10553113 >>10580235

>>10536463
i get so many mixed feelings from this
>according to Stream Hatchet - kys
>at least mentions Pekora - ogey
>refuses to name Moona - kys
>mentions Kizuna clones - ogey
>says HoloEN debuted in october - kys
>mentions 4chan - ogey
>mentions Gura - ogey
>refuses to mention Coco - kys
>refuses to mention Sana - kys

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Anonymous Tue 28 Sep 2021 21:23:18 No.10540020 Report

Quoted By: >>10543638

>>10536463
i get so many mixed feelings from this
>according to Stream Hatchet - ogey
>at least mentions Pekora - kys
>refuses to name Moona - ogey
>mentions Kizuna clones - kys
>says HoloEN debuted in october - ogey
>mentions 4chan - kys
>mentions Gura - kys
>refuses to mention Coco - ogey
>refuses to mention Sana - ogey

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Sep 2021 21:25:10 No.10540095 Report

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>>10536463
So basically there's a Nousagi at Fortune company? Good to know I guess.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Sep 2021 22:44:34 No.10543528 Report

Quoted By: >>10544127 >>10572295

>>10536463
>only mentions hololive

lmao as i thought,
hololive is the mcdonalds of vtubing /v/ was right,
its like the boruto of vtubing as well something the shallow and casual for the average normie, who knows nothing about the culture

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Sep 2021 22:46:10 No.10543638 Report

Quoted By: >>10555024 >>10555072 >>10555261 >>10555392

>>10540020
you know they are a normie who barely did research when they don't mention the earliest vtubers like ami yamato, the weather girl, and eilene.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Sep 2021 22:55:10 No.10544127 Report

Quoted By: >>10572038

>>10543528
If Hololive is McDonalds then what kind of shit are the others? Some local joint where you get diarrhea every time?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Sep 2021 22:56:57 No.10544211 Report

Quoted By: >>10545199 >>10555626

>>10536737
Ofc they're a rival anon as both of them are the biggest behemoths of the vtubing agencies we have today. The only other agency who can somehow fit the description is Vshojo but only faggots who will mention them

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Sep 2021 23:00:52 No.10544399 Report

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>>10536463
Thank you OP I was struggling to read it behind the paywall without giving my money to the tribes of Judea, the article seems mostly ok but they still managed to get some simple shit wrong like with the term "graduation" being used by only one agency it's so easy to find it aint true...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Sep 2021 23:06:44 No.10544683 Report

Quoted By: >>10572430 >>10579073 >>10592321

I still can't believe Netflix named their chuuba N-ko. Sure it's meant to be read as えぬこ but I'll always read it as んこ, poop.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Sep 2021 23:16:17 No.10545199 Report

Quoted By: >>10555883

>>10544211
Vshojo have 8 members and only like 3 of them can pass as big, they get mentioned by twitch fags that also watch their indie collab partners and such as a company I'm not sure if they would make it into top 10 it depends how you compare them really Vshojo hardly gets any sponsors and I;m not sure how they're making enough money through a cut from merch sales lewd reputation aint that great for business, that's why they're trying to get away from it,

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 28 Sep 2021 23:19:26 No.10545336 Report

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>>10536463
I'm genuinely shocked it wasn't condescending and ignorant to the extreme.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 00:53:47 No.10549821 Report

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Article is decent, ending is weak

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 00:55:47 No.10549912 Report

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>>10536707
why are zoomers like this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 01:45:05 No.10552027 Report

Quoted By:

>>10536707
because he wants you to kill yourself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 02:05:03 No.10552902 Report

Quoted By:

>>10536463
4chan has a magazine?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 02:08:27 No.10553113 Report

Quoted By: >>10586570

>>10539223
not mentioning coco is not "refusing to mention coco", she doesn't need her name dropped in every article about vtubers

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 02:14:18 No.10553461 Report

Quoted By: >>10580647

Full respect to the author, this is one of the better "here's something new in nerd/weeb culture" articles I've ever seen. Not a single bit of misinformation, condescension, and it mostly hits every major bulletpoint you'd want to if you were trying to explain this to someone like Fortune's audience.

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Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 02:32:35 No.10554572 Report

Quoted By: >>10554703 >>10571899

>"While various streaming trends come and go, VTuber content has maintained considerable viewership over the past year," says Eduard Montserrat, CEO of the streaming analytics firm, Stream Hatchet
>Montserrat
>rrat

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 02:34:48 No.10554703 Report

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>>10554572
Happens when the core audience are not zoomers

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 02:36:42 No.10554801 Report

Quoted By: >>10554905 >>10559347

>>10536463
>written by "journalists" for smelly dumb boomernigger scum
>no one will ever read it
next

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 02:38:18 No.10554905 Report

Quoted By: >>10555017

>>10554801
>you
did

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 02:40:32 No.10555017 Report

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>>10554905
nope
didn't read
didn't need to
all i neede to see was
>fortune
lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 02:40:43 No.10555024 Report

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>>10543638
I mean,the article is about the rise of vtubers during the pandemic,so it makes sense to focus on the ones who exploded in popularity during it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 02:41:35 No.10555072 Report

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>>10543638
None of that is relevant in explaining vtubers to someone who is currently unaware of them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 02:45:25 No.10555261 Report

Quoted By:

>>10543638
get real nigga ain't no one sending letters to the editor bout some mirai akari or kaguya luna

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 02:47:34 No.10555392 Report

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>>10543638
why would they bother mentioning proto-vtubers by name

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 02:52:01 No.10555626 Report

Quoted By: >>10581769

>>10544211
No one seriously thinks vshojo is on the same level as Hololive and Nijisanji, anyone who does so is either deluded or trolling

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 02:53:06 No.10555693 Report

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>>10536463
>kanikama's degenerate comics in Fortune

Kanikamabros... we made it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 02:54:39 No.10555784 Report

Quoted By: >>10579871

>pekora is 3rd most watched

Soon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 02:55:40 No.10555831 Report

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>>10537017
>the deep friendship between narucock and sasuballs

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 02:56:51 No.10555883 Report

Quoted By: >>10573451

>>10545199
That's why I said "somehow fit the description" because the disparity between both Hololive and Nijisanji have with the rest of their competitors are just that massive butthen again to diminished them like that is a bit too much IMHO. If they don't make it into top 5 or even 10 chuuba agency interm of business aspect (how much capital and leverage they have, profits the make each year, etc.) as you said, then who else? You're not gonna said it's Tsunderia, 774, or some SEA agencies like Maha5, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 02:57:58 No.10555939 Report

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>>10537017
You're not supposed to do that?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 03:17:52 No.10557209 Report

Quoted By:

>>10536463
>and brands want in
Fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 03:34:03 No.10558494 Report

Quoted By:

>>10538246
>gets started by leeching from mikochi
>becomes the most popular holo and stops doing collabs

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 03:45:59 No.10559347 Report

Quoted By: >>10562160 >>10564882

>>10554801
Seethe

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 04:25:34 No.10562160 Report

Quoted By: >>10562682

>>10559347
reddit cope

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 04:33:01 No.10562682 Report

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>>10562160
>No u
Pathetic

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 04:46:32 No.10563688 Report

Quoted By: >>10564882

>>10536463
Shit article that wasn't even proofread. Goes to show the quality of articles that will get published

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 05:00:24 No.10564882 Report

Quoted By: >>10565250

>>10563688
Tell that to their most avid reader/fan who feels the need to defend some random trash writer.
>>10559347

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 05:05:14 No.10565250 Report

Quoted By:

>>10564882
Seethe more

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 06:32:20 No.10570090 Report

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>>10536463
>Could all-hands virtual meetings populated by you and your colleagues, all in avatar form, be that far behind?
The every person having their own avatar reminds me of Summer Wars. Also, the sunken face of the Japanese salaryman will be hidden through the always smiling virtual avatar.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 06:34:57 No.10570202 Report

Quoted By: >>10570949

REEEEEEEE STAY AWAY FROM MY HOBBY AMERIFAT BRANDS!

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Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 06:51:09 No.10570949 Report

Quoted By:

>>10570202
Too late

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 07:04:37 No.10571500 Report

Quoted By: >>10572308 >>10573678

>and brands want in
I almost threw up
I hate grifters so much
Why do people have to invade the things mentally ill people love just because there's a lot of mentally ill people willing to spend money and time on things? Just leave me and my fellow autists and schizos alone, my money and time was not, is not, and will not be meant for you, EVER.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 07:07:03 No.10571620 Report

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How different would this article be if a Fandead wrote it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 07:12:51 No.10571899 Report

Quoted By:

>>10554572
kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 07:15:32 No.10572038 Report

Quoted By:

>>10544127
The hotdog vendor on maine street who spits on the buns every time he opens a package

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 07:20:34 No.10572295 Report

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>>10543528
Boruto isn't popular zoomer anon....

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 07:20:48 No.10572308 Report

Quoted By: >>10573491

>>10571500
This is something that's observed across a whole bunch of hobbies/venues: brands will attach themselves to anything so long as there's
a) money
b) a solid likelihood that their brand's image won't be tarnished
In this case, the seiso mentality actually *causes* vtubers to be marketable, since (mostly) inoffensive cute girls/people are an easy thing to leverage for your marketing.
Ultimately if you have a desire to make your interests unpalatable they have to have some intrinsic aspect to them that makes advertisers recoil, either by touching on topics that the majority of people find distasteful or being offensive in some way that being associated with you is toxic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 07:22:15 No.10572385 Report

Quoted By:

>>10536737
good, the more obscure they are the less SJW eyes on them, i want to enjoy swimming suit loli 3D at peace

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 07:22:56 No.10572430 Report

Quoted By:

>>10544683
I will always call her enko

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 07:43:28 No.10573451 Report

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>>10555883
VSPO is looking to take the 3rd spot as their focus on FPS/Apex is finally paying off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 07:44:31 No.10573491 Report

Quoted By: >>10574767

>>10572308
>some intrinsic aspect to them that makes advertisers recoil, either by touching on topics that the majority of people find distasteful or being offensive in some way that being associated with you is toxic.
My oshi literally pretends to be my girlfriend to the point of not getting a boyfriend irl, and that makes even posters on 4chan foam at the mouth, let alone "regular" people
It's not like it's niche either. All the big JP Holos popular in the west do that shit to an extent.
I literally spend my time telling women how to behave and I'm not even close to alone in this, how much more toxic could I be for western brands?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 07:48:12 No.10573678 Report

Quoted By: >>10574101

>>10571500
Says this when vtubing was corporate from the start and Ai was shilling shit left and right, even now she’s shilling NFTs lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 07:58:08 No.10574101 Report

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>>10573678
Ai never shilled western brands until long after her hype train passed, and is also currently a husk.
Also of course it was corporate you retard. New tech(mostly).
We're lucky vtubers kept the based parts about Ai, like joking about sexually harassing younger women, and dropped the corporate parts.

Also, Ai didn't fund her venture on Superchats or memberships like most vtubers do nowadays. Genuinely two completely different worlds.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 08:05:18 No.10574372 Report

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>enko the netflix anime ambassador

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Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 08:14:30 No.10574767 Report

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>>10573491
>to the point of not getting a boyfriend irl

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 10:58:40 No.10578946 Report

Quoted By:

>>10536463
HOLOLIVE ON THE FRONT PAGE

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 11:04:03 No.10579073 Report

Quoted By:

>>10544683
Enko just sounds like compensated dating.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 11:16:19 No.10579367 Report

Quoted By:

>>10537017
moona = madara
pekora = pain

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 11:18:27 No.10579410 Report

Quoted By: >>10586383

>>10536711
cumsharts seething is always a nice view

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 11:28:23 No.10579636 Report

Quoted By:

>>10538052
roru
rumao

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 11:32:51 No.10579737 Report

Quoted By: >>10580239 >>10580298

>>10536463
Selling Merchandise is more reliable than getting sponsorships

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 11:37:28 No.10579870 Report

Quoted By:

>>10538052
This must be the nijicope I've heard so much about

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 11:37:29 No.10579871 Report

Quoted By:

>>10555784
soon what nigga, she is 2nd now only behind the bitch amouranth

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 11:51:40 No.10580235 Report

Quoted By:

>>10539223
>mentions 4chan - ogey
kys

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 11:51:48 No.10580239 Report

Quoted By: >>10580300

>>10579737
Said no one ever

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 11:54:10 No.10580298 Report

Quoted By:

>>10579737
Sounds like a stupid take anon.
Keeping your money in a piggy bank is more reliable than buying stocks too you know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 11:54:16 No.10580300 Report

Quoted By:

>>10580239
you're retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 11:55:34 No.10580339 Report

Quoted By:

>>10536463
Nijibros?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 12:06:11 No.10580647 Report

Quoted By:

>>10553461
But that's because it wasn't written by some self-hating "journalist" with a bone to pick with the establishment in a blog trying to justify his questionable decisions on everyone but himself in order to get like-minded self haters to join their parade and crusade against whatever first world problem got their panties twisted in a bunch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 12:48:37 No.10581769 Report

Quoted By:

>>10555626
They aren't even close to the same level, but at least as far as exclusively Western agencies go they are a pretty clear number 1. I'm not super in sync with corporations on JP side at all besides the 2 big companies so I'm sure they have some other companies that are probably of a comparable size or bigger than Vshojo, but Tsunderia or whatever other Western companies aren't even close to Vshojo in popularity

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Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 14:03:35 No.10584458 Report

Quoted By:

>>10536463
>4chan

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 14:05:10 No.10584500 Report

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>>10536737
I think of it like Coke vs Pepsi. One is clearly more popular around the world and knows it. The other is still popular and not exactly struggling, but probably won't take first place unless their competitor fuck up hard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 14:47:36 No.10586383 Report

Quoted By:

>>10579410
he's telling the true you know?
this articles is just made by pekora fan only, and ignoring the rest like coco. Also if wasn't for her myth EN wouldn't exists and pekora and the other girls would be completely ignored globally

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 14:52:09 No.10586570 Report

Quoted By: >>10587030

>>10553113
thanks to Coco Hololive English exists and he ignored that fact. Even Pekora and the rest of hololive would still be literal who global if wasn't for Coco ideas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 15:02:17 No.10587030 Report

Quoted By: >>10588765

>>10586570
ESLchama...
stop falseflagging...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 15:35:55 No.10588765 Report

Quoted By:

>>10587030
>Nousagis can't accept fact
truly sad

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 16:55:07 No.10592036 Report

Quoted By:

Actually a good article

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 29 Sep 2021 17:01:48 No.10592321 Report

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>>10544683
I have a bit of a soft spot for her, I feel like for being a corporate vtuber who does nothing but advertisements in essence, somehow she's still genuine about her appreciation for anime even if I also get the sense that her powerlevel is low.

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