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Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 06:42:08 No.14225572 View View Reply Original Report

Fuck your numbers, fuck your memberships, fuck your subs

LET'S GET TO THE REAL QUESTION /VT/

Who's the better Artist?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 06:43:32 No.14225617 Report

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>>14225572
Ina.

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Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 06:44:24 No.14225639 Report

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>>14225572
Saruei

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 06:46:02 No.14225683 Report

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>>14225572
Ame

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 06:46:24 No.14225693 Report

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>>14225639
Why is her big toe so long?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 06:46:28 No.14225697 Report

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>>14225639
Who?

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Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 06:48:07 No.14225749 Report

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>>14225572
gura

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 06:49:37 No.14225795 Report

Quoted By: >>14228260

>>14225697
French menhera with long toes

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 06:51:56 No.14225872 Report

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>>14225572
Lofi
From the looks of it and the lore, she's an artist

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Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 06:52:07 No.14225877 Report

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>>14225572
Iofi because I judge art entirely on how hard it panders to my fetishes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 06:53:17 No.14225910 Report

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>>14225572
you're kidding right

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 06:53:51 No.14225929 Report

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>>14225572
Sana has amazing overalls, but Ina's character specific is fantastic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 07:00:46 No.14226185 Report

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yopi

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Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 07:15:50 No.14226652 Report

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>>14225572
Gawr Gura

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 07:29:44 No.14227019 Report

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>>14225572
Ina, she is better than >>14225639
too and I literally find tako to be most boring holomyth.

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Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 07:59:17 No.14227796 Report

Quoted By: >>14228040

>>14225572
Luna

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 08:08:24 No.14228013 Report

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>>14225572
I like Sana's art more
I think Ina is a way better art streamer

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 08:09:58 No.14228040 Report

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>>14227796
SOVL

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 08:13:40 No.14228120 Report

Quoted By: >>14228436

>>14225572
Ina can't overcome her sameface problem
>le anime girl at 3/4 perspective again

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 08:18:54 No.14228260 Report

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>>14225697
>>14225795
Hentai artist, possibly middle aged. Gets angry that people call her a slut. Wants to be gangbanged. Has bad luck actually getting with men, despite her aspirations to get fucked.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 08:26:41 No.14228436 Report

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>>14228120
The only thing that matters is fooling enough people thinking it's good.

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Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 08:48:11 No.14228850 Report

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>>14225572
Pochi

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Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 08:49:12 No.14228872 Report

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>>14228850
Wrong pic kek

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Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 08:51:23 No.14228918 Report

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>>14225572
Senchou

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 08:53:32 No.14228957 Report

Quoted By: >>14229008

Does Ina even push the envelope of her skill? it seems like she just does what she's good at and doesn't improve

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 08:56:36 No.14229008 Report

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>>14228957
She earns a lot doing that which is why she has stagnated. I'm sure she notices too which is why she makes projects like animating her own MVs

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 10:38:51 No.14231111 Report

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>>14225572
Wadarco

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Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 10:46:59 No.14231271 Report

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Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 11:22:11 No.14232430 Report

Quoted By: >>14232818

Ina's drawings suffer massively from sameface syndrome and lack the color Sana uses in hers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 11:32:58 No.14232818 Report

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>>14232430
Sana has severe sameface too but her colors are...brighter? More alive? Idk how to say it. Ina is more orthodox and generic gacha-like while Sana is a bit more cartoony and does her own thing.
I like Sana's more but Ina's quality for the little ammount of time it takes her to shit out an anime girl is unparalleled.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 11:38:47 No.14233010 Report

Quoted By: >>14233048

I mean only one is employed as an official illustrator for multiple gacha games, isn’t that so?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 11:40:09 No.14233048 Report

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>>14233010
Both are.

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Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 11:41:16 No.14233077 Report

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Ina is so technically skilled it’s crazy, should be obvious

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Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 11:41:17 No.14233078 Report

Quoted By: >>14233121 >>14245839

This is true art.

Debate this statement.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 11:42:28 No.14233121 Report

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>>14233078
Ina BTFO
Sana BTFO

This is true SOUL.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 11:43:47 No.14233161 Report

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whoever got her work adapted into an anime is the better artist IMO.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 11:46:01 No.14233238 Report

Quoted By: >>14233308

>>14225572
It's almost impossible for me to answer the question properly because Sana is my oshi so instead I'll point towards Nene's incredibly SOULful art.

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Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 11:47:57 No.14233308 Report

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>>14233238
Nenechi is good even at serious mode. she's really the rightful daughter of Nishizawa-sensei.

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Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 12:03:36 No.14234076 Report

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>>14225572
Avocado

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Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 12:10:49 No.14234417 Report

Quoted By: >>14234564 >>14235106 >>14241981

>>14225572
I'll answer honestly OP:

Sana is the best (artist) in Hololive both on a technical and creative level, but she's nowhere near Ina when it comes to drawing streams and speed, especially at THAT quality. To be fair I think Ina had more PL art streaming experience. It still takes away one of the main reasons why Sana got in which sucks, but she does contribute a lot behind the scenes to make up for it. The bad thing about Ina's speed is what people above have said; it's the same thing over and over because it has to be. Sana puts a lot more thought into the whole presentation of her work which slows her down. I think Ina has slightly better anatomy and a much cleaner style which is incredibly satisfying to look at. I've seen Ina's big projects where she clearly had a lot more time and they're stunning, but they still lack vibe and emotion. They both suffer equally with sameface.

Sana:
>Art: 9/10
>Drawing streams: 6.5/10

Ina:
>Art: 8.5/10
>Drawing streams: 8.5/10

Ina is the best artist (vtuber).

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 12:15:37 No.14234564 Report

Quoted By: >>14234867 >>14236464

>>14234417
>they still lack vibe and emotion
You mean she should draw sexier girls, don't you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 12:17:24 No.14234634 Report

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Whoever is the worst artist who joined in any gartic phone collabs (likely Luna or IRyS)

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Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 12:26:01 No.14234867 Report

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>>14234564
Something Sana did like 5 years ago. Are you really telling me this has no vibe and emotion?

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Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 12:33:39 No.14235106 Report

Quoted By: >>14235140 >>14241935

>>14234417
IMO, i really like the Sanaface better maybe becaus it's more "moe" or expressive than Ina's. i really can't like Inaface for some reason i can't explain. something about lacking soul maybe. but yeah i can see why more clients would prefer Ina because she has the speed and consistency, very important skillsets to have on a very competitive industry.

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Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 12:34:41 No.14235140 Report

Quoted By: >>14241272 >>14241935 >>14262691

>>14235106

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 12:57:00 No.14235929 Report

Quoted By: >>14237628

>>14234867
I just wanna mention how incredibly fast Ina progressed as an artist. This was Ina 5 years ago. She was okay but still a complete amateur in comparison. I can find random twitter artists with less than 5k followers that are more skilled than her at pic related.
In less than 5 years she went from an amateur nobody to an established pro artist and an art streamer powerhouse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 13:06:13 No.14236217 Report

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Sana is way better

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 13:13:48 No.14236464 Report

Quoted By: >>14237628

>>14234564
No he means she never does "creative" things with the colors, poses, compositions or themes. It's always a very well drawn, very clean, anime girl character posing statically nowadays.

She used to be more bold and creative before she was contracted and before going through the meat grinder of multiple contracts at the same time and being forced to specialize for efficiency. I like pic related from 3 years ago way more than her current stuff even if her current stuff takes less time and is better drawn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 13:21:35 No.14236728 Report

Quoted By: >>14237628

>>14234867
Holy shit that looks amazing, she have a pixiv or something?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 13:50:42 No.14237628 Report

Quoted By: >>14239274 >>14241770

>>14236464
Damn this Ina needs to come back.
>>14235929
Thanks for sharing that. I've only really seen work from Ina within the last few years and you're right, her progression is insane. Imagine where she'll be 10 years from now. Hololive was simply a cool thing for her to do on the side.
>>14236728
Look at the window

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 14:35:29 No.14239274 Report

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>>14237628
>Imagine where she'll be 10 years from now.
I feel she has barely progressed this last year. She just got a bit better and faster but she hasn't pushed herself much. And if she keeps being complacent she'll develop bad habits and will stagnate since habits are harder to break the more you repeat them. That's why I really like that she's attempting animation

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 15:14:15 No.14240918 Report

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>>14225572
until sana doesn't do an actually drawing stream
ina without doubt

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 15:23:44 No.14241272 Report

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>>14235140
Something about Ina's art just looks so CRISP and satisfying. Like it's a sticker you could peel right off the monitor.
I really do wish Ina would do more dynamic poses and situations for her art though. Its always just a cute anime girl standing in a pose. Like her Laplus illustration, it looks incredible, seriously im shocked whenever i see the quality of it compared to everyone else and she drew it in ONE stream. But at the same time, you had the chance to draw anything and you choose , just standing there ?

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Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 15:26:02 No.14241381 Report

Quoted By: >>14241823 >>14241868 >>14242020 >>14242041

Can someone show me an example of an anime style artist who doesn't have same face problems ?
I feel like people just throw that term around as an insult but anime character faces are fundamentally less diverse than "realistic" faces

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 15:34:11 No.14241770 Report

Quoted By: >>14241822

>>14237628
I been looking at the window for 10mins now. I start to think I'm literally blind. Where?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 15:35:24 No.14241822 Report

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>>14241770
Below "Flower"

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Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 15:35:27 No.14241823 Report

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>>14241381
Monster mangaka and a few others not in the moeblob live2d industry

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Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 15:36:21 No.14241868 Report

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>>14241381
sameface syndrome is actually rare on shounen artists because it's actually easy to diversify male faces.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 15:37:58 No.14241935 Report

Quoted By: >>14242230

>>14235106
>>14235140
Looking at these 2 pieces, if i was Sana, i would definitely feel a lot of anxiety about doing an Ina style drawing stream.
Ina's style produces such clean drawings that even if Sana was just as fast, her art would still come off as a little "unrefined" compared to Ina's. Not saying its better but id feel a little insecure in comparison

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 15:38:55 No.14241981 Report

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>>14234417
I've rarely seen any anime-based art style that doesn't have sameface.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 15:39:38 No.14242020 Report

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>>14241381
That's a trick question because if someone posted a nip artist who doesn't sameface you'd claim that they aren't drawing in an "anime" style.

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Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 15:40:10 No.14242041 Report

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>>14241381
if you're looking for an example from a sameface-prone genre, there's Annindoufu and her work at Cinderella girls.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 15:44:07 No.14242230 Report

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>>14241935
I think you just have a preference for realistic drawings than stylized drawings. I think Sana's art in general isn't boring, it's very detailed and expressive, and the colors are always good. Meanwhile Ina sometimes goes too fast and while anatomically correct it ends up just being...bland.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 16:56:43 No.14244819 Report

Quoted By: >>14244865

>>14225572
On a technical level: Ina
On a soul level: Sana

Ina might be a fucking pro but the way Sana uses color is magical and incredibly spontaneous. She's like an alchemist of color

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 16:58:22 No.14244865 Report

Quoted By: >>14245759

>>14244819
*Sana is a pro too, but her technical skills are weaker than Ina's, she sometimes struggles with perspective or proportions, for example. Ina is a fucking art machine

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 16:59:24 No.14244896 Report

Quoted By: >>14244929

Ina has an artist's heart but an engineer's brain
Her art is very mechanical

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 17:00:41 No.14244929 Report

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>>14244896
How very asian of her.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 17:31:45 No.14245759 Report

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>>14244865
Ina never does anything challenging with perspective. 90% of the time it's girl characters from the same 3/4 angle, posing withlout any movement. She's a machine because she's done it several hundreds of times, but if you put her to draw something else (like that Marine pinup drawing from like 2 months ago that she never finished) she'll struggle a lot .

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 17:34:56 No.14245839 Report

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>>14233078
reminds me of korone's mspaint art

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Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 17:41:01 No.14246016 Report

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Sana hands down… Incredibly detailed. Not a fan of moe face but it works very well with the color usage. That’s why if you look at the window she’s made it so far in the industry. Ina is a good artist but stays within the box.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 18:45:24 No.14247900 Report

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>>14225572
mumei

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Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 20:28:38 No.14251320 Report

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Bomp

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Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 20:47:43 No.14251889 Report

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>>14225572
Me.

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Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 21:06:13 No.14252474 Report

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>>14225572
sana's art has sovl
ina's art is just a generic gacha shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 21:07:52 No.14252542 Report

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>>14228918
this. but we're comparing 2 inferior artists here anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Dec 2021 22:37:00 No.14257409 Report

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>>14225572
Huke-papa

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Anonymous Wed 08 Dec 2021 00:16:12 No.14262691 Report

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>>14235140
god ina's art fucking sucks compared to sana's. ina herself is the only one who looks 100% fine here. i hate that stupid mouth she always draws on calli.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 08 Dec 2021 00:17:54 No.14262776 Report

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Sana. I'm probably biased since I've followed her roomate years before she joined hololive

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