>>23172983Cover's slowing growth and HoloEN's tapering down, Council's flopping in particular is all just random chance easily blameable on everything except for the problems right in front of their fucking faces and noses. Right, that is about the largest huff of copium one can manage.
I've fucking seen it in random other boards vtubers come up, a lot of people literally stopped watching either Holo or vtubers altogether after Coco quit. I'd imagine the way the Rushia thing was handled didn't help either.
As for the Mori thing it's hard to say after the lean arc but it's definitely polarized her fanbase and Mori herself constantly seems to act out of butthurt passive aggressive nature at ANY criticism even it's warranted. People don't like the shrek shit? Ok she's just going to do it for like an hour straight to annoy you, etc. It's not the way to grow or make good impressions.