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Skeb Doesn't Want VTuber Fans Working For Them

Anonymous Tue 24 May 2022 23:29:36 No.24878507 View View Reply Original Report

Skeb is hiring for a web engineer... but kek, look at their hiring criteria.
Why are VTuber fans so hated?
https://medium.com/skeb-jp/recruiting-55157fbc5cd1

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 May 2022 23:34:21 No.24878745 Report

Quoted By: >>24878977 >>24879008 >>24890748

Not surprising. VTuber fans are hated by pretty much every other kind of otaku in Japan.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 May 2022 23:36:09 No.24878862 Report

Quoted By: >>24879008

>>24878507
Remember bronies, as in fans of that show? Yeah, that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 May 2022 23:38:32 No.24878977 Report

Quoted By: >>24879200 >>24880199 >>24888302

>>24878745
Is this a thing you have actual knowledge about or just what the voices in your head tell you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 May 2022 23:39:01 No.24878998 Report

Quoted By: >>24879024

Who's skeb?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 May 2022 23:39:12 No.24879008 Report

Quoted By:

>>24878507
>>24878745
>>24878862
yeah i understand them
just imagine your fav whatever selling out for vtuber money its just sad

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 May 2022 23:39:32 No.24879024 Report

Quoted By: >>24896738

>>24878998
It's the site where everyone commissions porn from anime artists.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 May 2022 23:40:03 No.24879042 Report

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>>24878507
it's about individual "content creators" in general so it would apply to live streamers as well

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 May 2022 23:42:57 No.24879200 Report

Quoted By: >>24879370 >>24879446 >>24885504 >>24887867 >>24891363 >>24893917 >>24910693

>>24878977
Only anecdotal evidence. After the Oga game controversy pretty much everyone sided with the dev after his write-up and his QRTs were filled with people shitting on VTuber fans. On other boards on this very site people scorn the Holobrony (in this case referring to all VTuber fans) menace. /a/ regularly shits on VTuber fans for giving up 2D for 3DPD. I remember catching a Lulu stream live where somebody spammed her chat calling her and all other VTuber girls glorified cabaret girls... there's a great deal of people who hate VTuber fans and a great deal of reasons why.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 May 2022 23:46:11 No.24879370 Report

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>>24879200
Right. But it isn't like other otakus like idol otakus or seiyuu otakus are in higher moral standing, i've ready plenty of stories of them being super schizos.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 May 2022 23:47:48 No.24879446 Report

Quoted By: >>24885196

>>24879200
It's more of a "new thing: bad" than anything
It is well known that for some time /hlgg/ was old b reunion class because everyone came to 4chan due to covid
This board is more representative of what this place used to be than the rest of this site right now

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 May 2022 23:48:39 No.24879490 Report

Quoted By: >>24880739 >>24880747 >>24881226 >>24884800 >>24891873 >>24898957 >>24908547

They still make software with RAILS in Japan ?
People need to stop trying to make real software in ruby and python, elixir, all these shit languages

Inb4 new college grad python dev starts defending it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 May 2022 23:49:16 No.24879518 Report

Quoted By:

>>24878507
probably dont want any schizo data security yabs

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 May 2022 23:49:30 No.24879530 Report

Quoted By: >>24881505 >>24899330

That's really hypocritical of Skeb considering how much money they're making out of Vtubers commissioning things there and even had Vtuber-related promos.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 May 2022 23:50:17 No.24879566 Report

Quoted By:

>>24878507
What exactly is this position for?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 May 2022 23:51:17 No.24879611 Report

Quoted By: >>24879653 >>24879808 >>24880022 >>24893084

I'm assuming everyone in this thread is only pretending to be retarded by pretending to not understanding the actual reason for this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 May 2022 23:52:02 No.24879653 Report

Quoted By: >>24902940

>>24879611
Tell us the actual reason then, brainiac.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 May 2022 23:53:22 No.24879716 Report

Quoted By:

More chink cope or general autism?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 May 2022 23:54:57 No.24879808 Report

Quoted By: >>24879968 >>24879993 >>24880022 >>24880942

>>24879611
I was thinking about this but I need confirmation: is it because they prefer artists focusing on creating multiple character designs instead of designing only one thing for a single individual?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 May 2022 23:58:19 No.24879968 Report

Quoted By:

>>24879808
the position is for a programmer, though, so I really don't see why vtubers would matter

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 May 2022 23:58:46 No.24879993 Report

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>>24879808
It's a code monkey job not an inhouse artist job. Probably just them being autistic about watching vtubers while working from home

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 May 2022 23:59:18 No.24880022 Report

Quoted By: >>24880297

>>24879611
>>24879808
My guessing is that they want people that does their job as intended without being able to be distracted by stuff unrelated to their line of work?Frankly I see no other reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 00:01:20 No.24880131 Report

Quoted By: >>24890485

>>24878507
It's to prevent favouritism and antis

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 00:02:46 No.24880199 Report

Quoted By: >>24880841

>>24878977
Take a good, hard look at this godforsaken board. Do you really need to ask yourself why people hate vtuber fans?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 00:03:42 No.24880249 Report

Quoted By: >>24880826

>>24878507
>why arent they allowing me to dox people :(
all i'm getting out of this thread
every single one of you need to kill yourselves

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 00:03:58 No.24880264 Report

Quoted By:

>>24878507
They want someone who can actually do work and not spend all their time watching their favorite vtuber

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 00:04:45 No.24880297 Report

Quoted By: >>24890593

>>24880022
damn, they wanted to hire a literal drone? i'm calling the UN ILO to liberate japanese worker

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 00:13:40 No.24880739 Report

Quoted By: >>24884800 >>24884884

>>24879490
python is fine, plenty of things use python almost exclusively. tensorflow is primarily done using python, it has apis for other languages but primary dev work is always python.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 00:13:51 No.24880747 Report

Quoted By: >>24884800 >>24884884

>>24879490
Python is used by everyone anon, especially in STEM

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 00:15:26 No.24880826 Report

Quoted By:

>>24880249
meds, now

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 00:15:46 No.24880841 Report

Quoted By: >>24881066

>>24880199
First time in 4chan buddy? The shit you see here isn't all that different in other popular boards.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 00:17:30 No.24880931 Report

Quoted By: >>24881090

>average overtime
Wait what

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 00:17:41 No.24880942 Report

Quoted By: >>24881505

>>24879808
Since its for a dev position its kind of weird.

I presume however because it is a backend position with authority and confidential knowledge, its probably just frowned on because of how big of a market vtubers are with skebs with many of them commissioning a ton as well.
Having someone overly fanatic about vtubers probably serves as a conflict of interest and they might be more tempted to leak.

However its also noteworthy the difference between how obsessive Japanese are with their hobbies compared to other people. A Japanese person being a huge fan of vtubers is basically someone who's fucking insane. Someone who watches them offhand isn't really what's being referred to here, its the schizos.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 00:19:11 No.24881039 Report

Quoted By:

Who?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 00:19:37 No.24881066 Report

Quoted By: >>24882648 >>24890841

>>24880841
Nah i'm fairly sure this is the only board where most people are bordernile schizophrenic SEAnigger newfag simps

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 00:20:00 No.24881090 Report

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>>24880931
Almost every single job in Japan comes with overtime.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 00:22:31 No.24881226 Report

Quoted By: >>24884800 >>24884884

>>24879490
bruh, you're probably not in touch with the science field. Python is widely used in there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 00:27:33 No.24881505 Report

Quoted By: >>24881823 >>24886190 >>24887380

>>24880942
Yeah, it's pretty clearly this. They don't want someone obsessed with a vtuber having access to the backend, just in case they get mad about something someone commissioned of that chuuba and decide to leak their credit card info or something as revenge.
Technically this COULD be a problem with any kind of otaku, but someone's much less likely to be so defensive over their anime waifu than a streamer (who's a real person, so they could genuinely believe they'd be offended by certain kinds of commissions). And none of that's even getting into purityfags, for idol or idol-esque chuubas.
Posts like >>24879530 are missing the point. The fact that Vtuber fans are a big market is WHY they don't want obsessed ones on the back end, because all it takes is one programmer mad about porn to scare off paying customers for a long, LONG time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 00:28:41 No.24881566 Report

Quoted By:

52 hours workweek for at least a whole month. at least they are being honest? but since this is a japanese company, it probably pays dog shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 00:33:41 No.24881823 Report

Quoted By: >>24882186 >>24886190

>>24881505
Well even outside of porn and such and being angry about who's commissioning what.

Someone with access to the database has access to information about basically anyone who has a skeb account, including 99% of vtubers and potentially anyone with a twitter account (since i think they're tied?)

This means if you're in the position, you basically have access to everyone's information, any vtubers info, their real name, address, accounts, billing info, etc. Its the ultimate dox bait.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 00:40:19 No.24882186 Report

Quoted By: >>24886190

>>24881823
Oh, I didn't even consider that but yeah, that's definitely not good either.
All that said, I doubt they're going to scour applicants twitters to reject anyone who likes vtubers. More that if "X is my oshi" is a major part of your identity they're going to be a bit cautious.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 00:46:29 No.24882524 Report

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>>24878507
Not surprised. Vtubers and their fans are pretty universally reviled everywhere but here and the hololive subreddit. They are just incredibly successful titty streamers, they don’t even have to show their real titties.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 00:48:53 No.24882648 Report

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>>24881066
oh how innocent

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 00:50:24 No.24882712 Report

Quoted By: >>24884800 >>24887476 >>24898994

>>24878507
>Rails
this is still used?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 01:34:45 No.24884800 Report

Quoted By: >>24885302

>>24879490
>>24882712
It's Japan, Ruby is their darling, the language made there. I could see it still being taught in college and there being bias towards using it.

>>24880739
>>24880747
>>24881226
Yeah, because people in those positions are not trying to be programmers, so using the language easiest to pick up is preferred over one that is harder but faster. All those things they use have their actual performance-crucial parts written in C, C++, and maybe Rust these days. They just have Python bindings/interfaces so they can be used more easily by the people they are made for. I would assume they are used in such a way that any long-running program where it matters would have 99% of the processing time spent in those libraries and not in Python itself.
Python is only fine until it isn't. That is, it's fine until you actually do something with heavy processing, or need proper use of multiple CPU cores. Websites with their backend written in Python, for instance, will choke much more quickly than most other common languages if they do anything more than super basic processing that would make I/O no longer be the bottleneck. It just so happens that it would still mean thousands of requests per second before that point is reached, so if you don't expect high load/usage ever, then it is indeed fine.
Jesus fuck I am autistic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 01:36:28 No.24884884 Report

Quoted By: >>24885302

>>24880739
>>24880747
>>24881226
i KNOW tons of people, especially scientists, use python.
Thats exactly the fucking problem
Python is great if you need to write a quick script to do some computation of manipulate some files personally.
But if you're a team of software engineers trying to build a real, production ready system, python is a fucking hindrance, its actively detrimental to software quality.
A language and build system that won't complain about referencing a variable that doesnt exist until its actually running and crashes ? Why would you write real software in this
Its got half assed functional programming utilities and half assed object oriented features, which leads to just a mess of different coding styles where everyone just does whatever.
Its hard to "just read" python code and understand what it does because tons of shit can happen in other imported modules because importing a module actually runs initialization code for it.
etc etc etc

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 01:42:34 No.24885196 Report

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>>24879446
>This board is more representative of what this place used to be than the rest of this site right now
Most delusional thing I've read this week

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 01:44:51 No.24885302 Report

Quoted By: >>24887558

>>24884884
>>24884800
I mean I'm a C-fag, but python is used literally all the time. I still use it especially if it has anything to do with system administration.

Stop being such a fag, languagefaggots are always the worst, you can make anything work if you're not a fucking brainlet, all that matters is consistency.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 01:49:53 No.24885504 Report

Quoted By: >>24885738 >>24885940 >>24886663

>>24879200
>Oga game controversy
qrd?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 01:54:13 No.24885725 Report

Quoted By:

archive oga nkodice

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 01:54:32 No.24885738 Report

Quoted By:

>>24885504
Reps

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 01:59:58 No.24885940 Report

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>>24885504
Oga made a better game in 3 days than one that a game dev took months to make and the game dev got salty that Oga's fans liked Oga's game better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 02:00:49 No.24885979 Report

Quoted By:

>>24878507
vtuber fans are literally worse than Hitler confirmed

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 02:05:03 No.24886190 Report

Quoted By: >>24886481 >>24888282

>>24881505
>>24881823
>>24882186
That's a risk that could happen anywhere anytime in all kinds of businesses vtuberfan or not.
At that rate no one can ever get hired because everyone and their mom could pose a "risk".

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 02:09:18 No.24886397 Report

Quoted By:

>>24878507
>skeb HR adjusts glasses and asks "are you fan of vtuber"
>>"No, never" anon says, uses his dud social media accounts made to disassociate himself
>skeb HR smiles and breathes a sigh of relief, "finally, no vtuberfags" he reaches out to shake anon's hand
>>Anon takes his hand, smiling in return, knowing he's not let his power level show.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 02:10:51 No.24886481 Report

Quoted By:

>>24886190
The issue is vtubers specifically are covered in drama right now and are more closely tied to virtual platforms than normal stars or people.

sure you could always get a schizo that uses his power to stalk a random girl he likes, but said random girl having her life heavily tied to skeb is minimal. and those of other public figures like singers or seiyuus tend to have public facing lives anyways so the harm is minimized.

vtubers are just combination of being heavily focused around twitter and skebs, and having a lot of highly schizo fans/antis right now.
its just a safe guard of
>if this dude starts talking about how much he wants to murder and rape Mel, maybe we shouldn't hire him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 02:12:15 No.24886551 Report

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>>24878507
>Not an avid fan of a particular individual creator or VTuber
They just don't want people who will give certain individuals preferential treatment

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 02:14:10 No.24886663 Report

Quoted By: >>24887196 >>24887459 >>24887680 >>24887760 >>24887867 >>24888777

>>24885504
I will spoonfeed
>A guy created a game called *nkodice, which is basically Yahtzee, but with vulgarities (manko, unko, etc.)
>That dev gave permissions for people to stream his game
>Chuubas started streaming it and it became a fad since it's fun hearing them saying those words
>Holos can't stream that game because of those vulgarities
>Oga decided to take matter into his hand to help Holo get on with this fad. He created a similar game, with a bit more mechanics / combos while removing the vulgarities. He streamed the final product and jokingly said that he gives all Holos permissions to stream his game. Holofags praised Oga
>Someone told the dev about this.
>The dev went on a meltdown on Twitter, saying how what Oga did (removing vulgarities) violated the spirit of the game and such. Also proceed to say that while he can't do anything about permission he has already given out, he won't let any VTuber (not just Holo) stream his game anymore. VTubers antis joined
>VTubers fans (both Holofags and non-Holofags) start shitting on the dev.
>Shortly afterwards, Oga apologized on Twitter. The dev also removed his original tweets and said that accepted the apology.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 02:21:21 No.24887104 Report

Quoted By: >>24887163 >>24892250

Guys......are we the new bronies?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 02:22:10 No.24887163 Report

Quoted By: >>24892250

>>24887104
Youre only just now noticing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 02:22:34 No.24887196 Report

Quoted By: >>24899739

>>24886663
if someone can make a better game without using vulgarity then you suck as a dev. though i haven't seen the game myself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 02:24:48 No.24887327 Report

Quoted By:

>>24878507
looks like is based on a work ethic

but you can always lie about not liking your oshie anyways

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 02:25:48 No.24887380 Report

Quoted By:

>>24881505
yes, this likely is the actual reason. It's probably not discrimination against vtuber fans as they consist of a lot of Skeb's income

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 02:27:24 No.24887459 Report

Quoted By:

>>24886663
the dev is a thin skinned bitch lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 02:27:46 No.24887476 Report

Quoted By:

>>24882712
I eant to rape marine

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 02:29:23 No.24887558 Report

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>>24885302
Yes that fits roughly what I said in the middle of my post. Re: "Python is fine until it isn't." I also use it fairly regularly. Sysadmin stuff makes sense, you are probably using it for its original purpose, as a scripting language. Using it for heavy data processing without the libraries being in something more performant would "work" until you end up running something for weeks or months instead of hours or days because you thought Python was fine.
"You can make anything work" applies for small tasks/programs only. That tends to be the majority, certainly, but it's absolutely not everything. We language faggots may be bad, but people who think you can use any language for any task are almost as bad since that's how you end up with something needing vast amounts of horizontal scaling to make up for choosing the wrong tool because it was "fine" at the time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 02:30:40 No.24887622 Report

Quoted By: >>24901648

Just lie lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 02:31:49 No.24887677 Report

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>>24878507
I fucking hate skeb, this piece of glorious nippon software, folded thousands time. Why the fuck there is no search with filters, like in a normal shop?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 02:31:56 No.24887680 Report

Quoted By:

>>24886663
>>VTubers fans (both Holofags and non-Holofags) start shitting on the dev.
incorrect, literally everyone was pissed at Oga even holofags. Holofags got pissy at the dev when he tweeted some shit about "their precious idorus" but Oga was getting hard flamed by every vtuber fan for ruining everyone elses fun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 02:33:40 No.24887760 Report

Quoted By: >>24891453

>>24886663
Oga didn't remove all the vulgarities, he only removed one hiragana ま but keep the others thus the game he made can't create Manko (which stands for vagina if anyone doesn't know) but can create all the other lewd word like Ochinchin (Penis)
That's why the dev got offended in the first place, why would you remove any mention of female genitals while keeping the rest?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 02:34:41 No.24887813 Report

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>>24878507
Cover also doesn't want to hire Vtuber Fans as their staff especially as the talent manager. Does that means Cover also hate Vtuber fans?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 02:34:47 No.24887817 Report

Quoted By: >>24888693

>>24878507
>lie about liking vtubers
>push my oshi's art through the algorithm
NIJISANJI DOMINATION

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 02:35:50 No.24887867 Report

Quoted By: >>24888078

>>24879200
Also every time VTubers become seiyuu there will always be complain about it. Like Holo in Nobeta or Ruri in Jashin Dropkick. The only one that got spared was I think Niji in Dennou-bu because it was a new project and nobody knows at the time what it's about.
>>24886663
The dev actually watched it live and he's disappointed that his name is not part of the credits as well as the viewers saying that they prefer Oga's game, though his main reason is because Oga removed the word manko from the game. I remember he also keep on passive aggressively shit on Oga after his apology.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 02:36:26 No.24887900 Report

Quoted By:

they should also not allow people with a waifu then

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 02:39:49 No.24888078 Report

Quoted By:

>>24887867
>The only one that got spared was I think Niji in Dennou-bu because it was a new project and nobody knows at the time what it's about.
I don't think you understand what denobu is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 02:43:16 No.24888250 Report

Quoted By: >>24889627 >>24899873

>>24878507
Not surprising when you hear about what Nijifans do in Japan. They just set precedent after precedent (vtubers are people, vtuber libel/slander is against the actor themselves, trolling vtubers can ruin your life if you get targeted, vtubers attacking vtubers, and so on and so forth) and now people are specifically requesting non-vtuber fans as employees due to their mental instability.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 02:43:31 No.24888264 Report

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>>24878507
Skeb what drugs are you on that this was understood as very important to list under desirable personnel
????????????????

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 02:43:45 No.24888282 Report

Quoted By:

>>24886190
The risk exists, but it's higher with Vtuber otaku. Even with say, Idol otaku (Where the craziest of them have a similar mindset to the craziest vtuber fans), artists aren't being asked to draw porn of them all the time so it's less of a problem.
It's not something I'd put on the application myself, but I get where they're coming from. And again, I doubt they're actively filtering anyone who watches vtubers, just the people obsessed with them who pose the biggest risk.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 02:44:16 No.24888302 Report

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>>24878977
Otakus are considered to be gross in Japan, dude.

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Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 02:48:23 No.24888524 Report

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>>24878507
>Open skeb.jp
>First fucking page has a Vtuber design request

...?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 02:52:08 No.24888693 Report

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>>24887817
i think this is the main reason actually

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 02:54:02 No.24888777 Report

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>>24886663
Didn't the dev write a blog post after everything where he basically admitted he was just salty Oga made a better game?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 03:05:31 No.24889343 Report

Quoted By: >>24889527

they need someone impartial to vtubers as there have been a lot of cases of bombs coming from enthusiatic fans on the backend stirring up big drama

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 03:09:00 No.24889527 Report

Quoted By: >>24889694 >>24889947

>>24889343
Maybe I'm just out of the loop but I haven't heard of skeb drama relating to vtubers that's caused by the company itself as opposed to the usual feuds between the artist and the requester.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 03:11:10 No.24889627 Report

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>>24888250
NOOOOOOOOOOO IT WAS HOLOBRONIES WHO WERE THE BADDIES! MY NARRATIVES!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 03:12:28 No.24889694 Report

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>>24889527
I mean, the Sio shit stirring comes to mind with how that blog website just casually confirmed her IP being real and the same as the one she uses in 5ch. Basically, they don't want overly enthusiastic (cultist) fans of content creators, vtubers or fan artists that can easily drop drama shitbombs

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 03:12:37 No.24889700 Report

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>>24878507
Funny because half of the users there are vtuber artists, fans, or the vtubers themselves
That could be why though

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 03:17:07 No.24889947 Report

Quoted By: >>24890000 >>24890386 >>24890486

>>24889527
skeb is just terrible and 100% worse in everyway when compared to sites like pixiv. They are literally japans version of patreon without the dumb SJW shit in my opinion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 03:18:15 No.24890000 Report

Quoted By: >>24890136

>>24889947
>worse than pixiv
Hahahahaa

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 03:20:27 No.24890136 Report

Quoted By: >>24890185

>>24890000
it is hahaha isn't an argument so go cry about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 03:21:32 No.24890185 Report

Quoted By: >>24890245 >>24890648

>>24890136
Imagine being a pixiv shill in 2022.
Pixiv is so fucked that nips went to fucking Twitter to escape it.

And imagine thinking skeb is worse than the bullshit premium pixiv shit on top of their shitty knockoff patron

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 03:22:30 No.24890245 Report

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>>24890185
yeah and other lies you tell yourself

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 03:25:17 No.24890386 Report

Quoted By:

>>24889947
>japans version of patreon without the dumb SJW shit
That sounds pretty good though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 03:26:58 No.24890485 Report

Quoted By:

>>24880131
This anon gets it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 03:27:00 No.24890486 Report

Quoted By:

>>24889947
It's closer to Fiverr
It's simply a commission marketplace site

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 03:28:59 No.24890593 Report

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>>24880297
Anon that's all japanese salaryman positions. No independent thought, just work.

The fact that they mentioned how many overtime hours they had last month tells you everything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 03:30:09 No.24890648 Report

Quoted By: >>24890735 >>24890903

>>24890185
But half the twitters I follow are just to herd people to their fanbox.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 03:31:31 No.24890735 Report

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>>24890648
Fanbox is objectively 100x worse than skeb.
My old favorite artist switched to that shit and nobody leaks it or uploads his doujins. It's such bullshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 03:31:42 No.24890748 Report

Quoted By:

>>24878745
Not just the fans though. I fucking hate that they even treat hololive streamers like a bunch of criminals (that's right, especially hololive). Any game-sponsorships with HoloJP would invite endless seethe from them by making complaints to the dev & publisher. If the sponsorship ends up failing, they would rejoice as much as they could.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 03:33:36 No.24890841 Report

Quoted By:

>>24881066
Very blanket statement.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 03:34:52 No.24890903 Report

Quoted By:

>>24890648
correct pixiv and fanbox are top dog skeb is not proven to be any good for artists other than them understanding freedom of expression and allowing artists to create what they want as does pixiv and fanbox

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 03:44:06 No.24891363 Report

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>>24879200
>pretty much everyone sided with the dev
LMAO no they didn't, A lot of Japanese completely understood why Oga did what he did and even thought him making his version was smart, he only got backlash because while his version was legal it was an underhanded thing to do instead of just not playing the game and respecting the devs wishes, he only had to express an apology because the dev was getting his ass dragged hard in the QRTs, Oga was literally a mediator to keep people from dragging the guy nice revisionism though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 03:45:46 No.24891453 Report

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>>24887760
Because saying cock is acceptable but saying cunt is not. This transcends cultures and eras into being a weird human constant.
In Roman times for example this was a thing.
Penises are just funny I guess, but pussy is just gross and squelchy and smelly but a man gets horny enough he wants to shove his dick in there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 03:53:33 No.24891873 Report

Quoted By:

>>24879490
Nice bait. Python is godly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 04:00:48 No.24892250 Report

Quoted By: >>24892387

>>24887104
>>24887163
The main thing that typified bronies was their obsession with a cartoon whose target audience was preteen girls, something they were most definitely not. That's what made it really weird to anyone observing. Also the taint of furry innate in an obsession with cartoon animals.
The target audience of vtubers is exactly who watches them now.
No, we are not bronies.
Nowhere near as bad.
We watch grown ass female streamers that larp as anime.
They watched cartoons purpose written for 8 yr old girls to sell little horse toys and little horse accessories for girls.
>b-but reddit
Leddit is always full of fags, in any interest field.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 04:03:10 No.24892387 Report

Quoted By: >>24893682 >>24894103 >>24896274 >>24902151

>>24892250
>The main thing that typified bronies was their obsession with a cartoon whose target audience was preteen girls
No one would really care about that on it's own. Everything has fans outside the target audience. Even with the ones who wanted to fuck the horses, weird fetishes are a dime-a-dozen.
The real big thing with bronies was them shoving their horses into EVERY FUCKING CONVERSATION, no matter how tangentially related. And THAT definitely applies to Hololive fans.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 04:15:05 No.24893084 Report

Quoted By:

>>24879611
>Code monkey from home with upfront average overtime hours per day
The reason is they want a machine, not an human capable of working smart not hard, just work harder not hard

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 04:19:24 No.24893325 Report

Quoted By:

Keep the skeb given working laptop free of any log on not workig related website (they will know in real time if you open youtube) and watch your oshi on a second device.
Its not hard, they can't ask you if you like X anyways.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 04:26:26 No.24893682 Report

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>>24892387
I never noticed or experienced either beyond how the horsefags triggered /b/ who then flooded the site to piss everyone off hence the global rule. That has not repeated itself on this site. Beyond this site I don't remember how bad bronies were but they certainly didn't intersect in anything I did. Hololive is the same. Whole swathes of RL and internet interests and I don't come across nary a mention of vtubers at all, let alone holo.
You'll see what you want to see if you focus on a narrow range of things that are directly related. There's a whole wider world and net that knows nor cares nothing about hololive and vtubers in general beyond vague recollections of Kizuna Ai.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 04:30:37 No.24893917 Report

Quoted By:

>>24879200
so much BS in one post
also hating on vtubers reminds me of hating on lets players 10-15 years ago. same thing. now no one has aporblem with watching other people play video games. same will happen with vtubers. just wait for new generations to outnumber these boomers and we are comfy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 04:34:16 No.24894103 Report

Quoted By:

>>24892387
>No one would really care about that on it's own. Everything has fans outside the target audience. Even with the ones who wanted to fuck the horses, weird fetishes are a dime-a-dozen.
Hard disagree.
Ask any normalfag if they remember bronies and they'll rememeber the creepy grown men that were obsessed with a cartoon for little girls. That's the standout.
You're too desensitized due to exposure to weird shit to perhaps realize just how odd and off putting that was and is for people, even in today's freakshow clown world.
Vtubers on the other hand are just a different flavor of streamer at the end of the day.
Explain both to a someone who's been under a rock for 20years and the former oddity is all round worse than a bunch of college students and salarymen imbibing in some streamer-based entertainment to pass by their uneventful evenings.e

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 05:20:02 No.24896274 Report

Quoted By:

>>24892387
>shoving their fandom / interest into conversations
Oh boy, I got bad news for you...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 05:31:08 No.24896738 Report

Quoted By:

>>24879024
So they just prefer the guy to not have a bias

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 06:33:27 No.24898689 Report

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All I’ve understood from this is that Oga is incredibly based

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 06:44:38 No.24898957 Report

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>>24879490
I, too, think all critical infrastructure and all commercial applications alike should be written in Emacs Lisp.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 06:45:45 No.24898994 Report

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>>24882712
Yes and it still pays well, too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 06:56:37 No.24899330 Report

Quoted By: >>24901477

>>24879530
>>24878507
They simply don't want a case of a deadbeat janny, like the one on /vt/.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 07:01:49 No.24899497 Report

Quoted By:

>are you a fan of vtubers
>noo
>are you telling porkies?
>nooOOooooo
>You're hired!
Wow so hard, time to leak a DB.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 07:10:25 No.24899739 Report

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>>24887196
the presentation for Oga's had more soul
>original nkodice: ambient tabletop with nothing but 3D dice and the word just shows up in bold text when you land it
>oga dice: presented like two kids playing a game of dice and beating the shit out of each other with random animations popping up with each vulgarity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 07:14:54 No.24899873 Report

Quoted By:

>>24888250
This reply reminded me Nijisanji is actively suing people for defamation and stuffs
Kinda understandable rest of the anime culture doesn't want to touch this hot potato

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 07:30:55 No.24900328 Report

Quoted By:

>>24878507
you're really on here asking "why are VTuber fans so hated"?
you can't be serous right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 08:21:33 No.24901477 Report

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>>24899330
This.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 08:26:48 No.24901605 Report

Quoted By: >>24902283 >>24904768

>120 replies
>no one tried to DeepL instead of garbage GoogleTL
>特定個人のクリエイター・VTuberの熱心なファンではない方
>Those who are not avid fans of specific individual creators or VTubers.
>everyone bite the bait

We are on /vt/ alright.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 08:28:46 No.24901648 Report

Quoted By:

>>24887622
/thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 08:50:12 No.24902151 Report

Quoted By:

>>24892387
>EVERY FUCKING CONVERSATION
Please, at best they were just using vtuber images as reaction faces, not to mention Kizuna Ai pics were already used around the site. Besides that's not actually illegal so long as they want to suggest how it would be related to board, like you can see people saying "what if X anime is a cartoon/live action/game" and shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 08:55:30 No.24902283 Report

Quoted By: >>24902467

>>24901605
I get the feeling this whole thread was an excuse for the bronyschizo to go on an unhinged rant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 09:02:54 No.24902467 Report

Quoted By:

>>24902283
nah /vt/ really is that dumb. myself included

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 09:25:37 No.24902940 Report

Quoted By:

>>24879653
not op but: to reduce bias

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 10:43:33 No.24904768 Report

Quoted By: >>24904979 >>24908947

>>24901605
The 2 are separate.
It's creators of specific individuals or fanatical vtuber fans. Some room for TL but the OP is more or less the right interpretation

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 10:45:06 No.24904811 Report

Quoted By: >>24904933

I blame hololive

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 10:51:08 No.24904933 Report

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>>24904811
In this instance it is 100% nijisanjis fault.
It's the unamusume of vtubers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 10:53:20 No.24904979 Report

Quoted By: >>24905201

>>24904768
>It’s 特定個人の(クリエイター・VTuber)
>No it’s (特定個人のクリエイター)・(VTuber)
Use your brain anon. It’s the same ambiguity than in the DeepL English translation and it’s very obvious what they mean from context. They don’t want people to be biased to individuals. There is nothing about not wanting vtuber fans.
Also OP’s "enthusiastic" isn’t nearly strong enough, "avid" is much more closer to the intended meaning. This whole thread is bait based on mistranslation.

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Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 11:03:53 No.24905189 Report

Quoted By: >>24908933

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 11:04:17 No.24905201 Report

Quoted By: >>24905329

>>24904979
>adding made up parenthesis for a made up argument
It's a deliminator, it's creators or vtuber fans.
You're retarded and the OP is still right here. Both of which are still about bias toward individuals but stop acting like your DL was some huge world shattering difference in TL. Because even if you were true you'd still be misinterpreting it because you've got the IQ of a dead jackrabbit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 11:08:42 No.24905329 Report

Quoted By:

>>24905201
That’s NOT how Japanase works. I added parentrhesis because that’s how you can parse the sentence. The closest equivalent to ・ is "/", that’s even how you type it on a Japanese keyboard.
>Those who are not avid fans of specific individual creators/VTubers.
There, you have it. OP is wrong and you’re just trying to stir up shit with your limited understanding of Japanese.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 12:59:14 No.24908547 Report

Quoted By:

>>24879490
nah it works

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 13:09:39 No.24908933 Report

Quoted By: >>24910983

>>24905189
oh so i guess hololive is the dominant one even in japan eh? sucks for niji to loose their stronghold like this but hey maybe they will manage to recover a few years down the line. at least they still have china

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 13:10:04 No.24908947 Report

Quoted By:

>>24904768
>creators of specific individuals
Why larp?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 13:14:30 No.24909139 Report

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>>24878507
I don't get it but if I'm in recruitment and if they're a fan of males then that's a pass for me

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 13:25:07 No.24909677 Report

Quoted By:

>>24878507
lots of skeb shills in this thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 13:47:53 No.24910693 Report

Quoted By:

>>24879200
>Holobrony
vtranny you mean. I've never seen anyone not here say holobrony

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 13:54:36 No.24910983 Report

Quoted By:

>>24908933
Why don't holotards ever bother to proofread their retarded posts? Every time they're filled with some sort of typo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 May 2022 14:36:03 No.24912816 Report

Quoted By:

>>24878507
avoiding conflict, exploitation, drama, general primal chimpness in the workplace.

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