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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 04:46:53 No.27289977 View View Reply Original Report

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Previous >>27280589

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 04:47:33 No.27290015 Report

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VOD COPERS GET THE ROPE

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 04:47:49 No.27290032 Report

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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list athttps://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 04:49:57 No.27290120 Report

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yeah hololive isnt doing so good

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 04:50:16 No.27290133 Report

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* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

>43,044: Miko (Hololive)
>38,292: Salome (Nijisanji)
>35,700: Todoroki Kyoko
>31,811: Marine (Hololive)
>30,058: Toya (Nijisanji)
>20,979: Suisei (Hololive)
>18,364: Mumei (Hololive)
>16,833: Flare (Hololive)
>16,180: Amamya (Nijisanji)
>15,978: Noel (Hololive)
>15,653: Mio (Hololive)
>14,662: Kobo (Hololive)
>14,016: Koyori (Hololive)
>12,751: Tamaki (NoriPro)
>12,213: Watame (Hololive)
>10,987: Koyori (Hololive)
>10,237: Shu (Nijisanji)

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 04:51:25 No.27290174 Report

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>>27290133

>>27271798 :: Silver
>>27271529 :: Bronze

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 04:51:37 No.27290178 Report

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i wonder if tally anon will give a marker for a raided stream so people didn't take it seriously

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 04:51:55 No.27290195 Report

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>>27290133
>>27271798 #:: Silver
>>27271529 #:: Bronze

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 04:52:15 No.27290212 Report

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCQSlVYkPhg

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 04:52:31 No.27290220 Report

Quoted By: >>27290275 >>27290279 >>27290305 >>27290312 >>27290469 >>27292259

Which one is more reliable? VOD or CCV?

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 04:53:19 No.27290252 Report

Quoted By: >>27291721

An interesting clip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCQSlVYkPhg
>talents have to pay for their 3D concerts themselves
So this is why they always sell merch. They need to make their money back somehow.

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 04:53:51 No.27290275 Report

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>>27290220
CCV

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 04:53:51 No.27290276 Report

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Final /news/ roundup for 01-07-2022
>>27246977 #

June Spotify for HoloEN
>>27208843 #

Holocure Data
>>27150306 #

Recent clip numbers
>>27232374
>>27233095
>>27166865
>>27167282
>>27167895

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 04:53:56 No.27290279 Report

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>>27290220
VOD views
ccv is a fucking joke

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 04:54:31 No.27290305 Report

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>>27290220
neither, both are useful

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 04:54:45 No.27290312 Report

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>>27290220
CCV, VODs are inflated and black boxed

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 04:55:35 No.27290346 Report

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Rate it https://youtu.be/tTRqhHYfD3c

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 04:55:48 No.27290351 Report

Quoted By: >>27290503 >>27290997 >>27291125 >>27291393 >>27293794

the nigger not only posted the niji on the holo sub but he also went and reposted his post from the holo sub on the niji sub
https://www.reddit.com/r/Nijisanji/comments/vpgkaw/us_phantomos_and_takodachis_arent_so_different/

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 04:56:27 No.27290395 Report

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>>27290346
mogu/10

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 04:57:39 No.27290443 Report

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monthly vod views gold
>2021 - 01 Hololive Official 30,254,223
>2021 - 02 Hololive Official 28,510,366
>2021 - 03 Hololive Official 22,279,385
>2021 - 04 Hololive Official 21,017,626
>2021 - 05 Hololive Official 34,060,220
>2021 - 06 Hololive Official 24,487,473
>2021 - 07 Hololive Official 23,548,857
>2021 - 08 Nijisanji Official 29,720,111
>2021 - 09 Hololive Official 24,456,572
>2021 - 10 Hololive Official 24,729,707
>2021 - 11 Hololive Official 21,942,917
>2021 - 12 Fubuki ch 27,386,424
>2022 - 01 Hololive Official 27,522,116
>2022 - 02 Hololive Official 22,100,013
>2022 - 03 Hololive Official 30,370,249
>2022 - 04 Kuzuha ch 20,928,089
>2022 - 05 Aogiri Highschool ch 31,802,463
>2022 - 06 Salome 32,211,884

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 04:58:08 No.27290469 Report

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>>27290220
VOD, CCV is manipulated af

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 04:58:29 No.27290483 Report

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>>27290276
Damn Kotonoha, what did they do to you?

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 04:58:49 No.27290503 Report

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>>27290351
Fucking shit trying to shift the trend to reimu's shitty back
Or theyre just "hey we're doing it first you know" casual beggar

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 04:59:41 No.27290540 Report

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https://youtu.be/ZYdRZ84Re68

Would this be good or bad for Korosan's numbers?

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:00:02 No.27290561 Report

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>>27290443
>Kobo
>20
>No niji EN in sight
M-maybe ccv is better r-right??

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:00:06 No.27290564 Report

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JOP loves their numberfagging.
https://myjitsu.jp/enta/archives/106619

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:00:48 No.27290590 Report

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:00:53 No.27290595 Report

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>>27290346
Masterpiece

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:01:27 No.27290625 Report

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>>27290469
Gas yourself

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:02:17 No.27290671 Report

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:03:12 No.27290712 Report

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>>27290133
Hololive starting the month with a victory in hand.
Salami continues to recline with no determined floor.

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:03:21 No.27290717 Report

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>>27290503
How pointless. If Reimu spent literal years cultivating an army of dedicated drawfags, had a top tier design, and carefully walked the line to edge her fan base instead of being a Niji, maybe it would work.

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:03:23 No.27290719 Report

Quoted By: >>27290781 >>27291558

Mori concert tickets sold out

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:03:26 No.27290722 Report

Quoted By: >>27290770 >>27291028 >>27291323

CCV is a better metric than VoD views because CCV represents VoD views in real time. If you have 100k CCV then you have at least 100k people watching you at that moment, and if you maintain that for an hour then you have at least 100k Watch Hours.

The majority of people who watch a VoD can't be confirmed to have watched the whole thing, but if you look at CCV you can tell approximately how many people have watched the entire stream. CCV represents a higher engagement level of viewer compared to VoD watchers, who largely are tourists.

CCV represents a higher momentary reach compared to VoD views, for example if you get your viewers to tweet a hashtag you can trend on twitter relatively easily if your CCV is high, but that will never be the case with a VoD. If you advertise something on a livestream you are far more likely to sell that thing, this likely also means higher engagement with adds and sponsorships, so it translates better to shilling merch.

As manipulated as CCV is, on youtube it is largely lower than it actually is across the board, with only peak CCV being falsified because of raids, which means you can simply assume any value you ascribe to a given CCV must be at least that much, if not better. By comparison, VoD views can't be assumed to have a high degree of minimal value, and even their peak value only goes as far as a single CCV viewer who watches the entire stream.

TLDR: CCV > VoD

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:03:31 No.27290725 Report

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>>27290469
>the metric that has to go through several hours of "processing" is real tho
next you're gonna tell me to trust nnd's total view counter or something

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:03:56 No.27290743 Report

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>>27290346
1view/min

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:04:34 No.27290770 Report

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>>27290722
I read the first line and you are already wrong

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:04:50 No.27290777 Report

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>>27290540
Neutral

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:04:57 No.27290781 Report

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>>27290719
Does JP have ticket scalpers?

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:06:35 No.27290849 Report

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>>27289977
June superchats
>>27236137 :: Hololive
>>27236180 :: Nijisanji
>>27236227 :: Indie/Other

>>27226940 :: NijiEN girls

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:07:14 No.27290878 Report

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you won't make any friends at the playground if you vod cope like that son

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:07:40 No.27290893 Report

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>>27290712
and VOD view cope appear

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:08:08 No.27290914 Report

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>>27289839
SOON

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:09:44 No.27290991 Report

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>>27290120
6 out of 10 is hololive, how is that not good? even mumei mogging the hell out of kanae

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:09:51 No.27290997 Report

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>>27290351
Ew

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:10:36 No.27291019 Report

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>>27290991
he's baiting anon, he obviously cut out the top stream because it doesn't help him get yous
but you gave him one

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:10:45 No.27291028 Report

Quoted By: >>27291086

>>27290722
that is a lot of assumptions that have to be made about the VOD viewers. there is no competition between them. they are different metrics tracking different things.
CCV tracks the in the moment yet is inaccurate and only the channel owner sees the real value after the fact
VODs tracks the overall and is visable to all but can be inflated easier

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:10:46 No.27291029 Report

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:11:08 No.27291051 Report

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>>27290770
How? It's literally the definition of CCV, concurrent viewers, the number of viewers you have at a given moment. When you are streaming with 10k CCV, you would have 10k VoD views that watched your stream up to a certain time, if your stream is 1 hour long you must have 10k watch hours. That's just fucking math

Meanwhile if you have 100k people who watch 5 minutes of a 15 minute video, you only have ~8k Watch Time. Even if you assume that all people who watch a video watch it for the entire duration, something that cannot be confirmed for VoDs but is statistically uncommon, you would only have ~25k Watch Time

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:11:47 No.27291083 Report

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:11:50 No.27291086 Report

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>>27291028
and somehow vods are accurate because you just know

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:12:32 No.27291116 Report

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>>27291083
Niji doko?

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:12:46 No.27291125 Report

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>>27290351

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:13:20 No.27291141 Report

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>>27291086
>Whataboutism
VoDs are probably accurate, and CCV has been proven it isn't. Deal with it, or at least present evidence VoD views are also messed with in the back end.

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:13:27 No.27291146 Report

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>>27291083
why do they even have hime

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:13:35 No.27291155 Report

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>>27290483
>What ntr do to a bitch

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:13:39 No.27291158 Report

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>>27291086
apply the same logic to both, both reveal the real number after processing the only difference is vods are always visable. they are both as real as each other

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:13:44 No.27291162 Report

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>>27290781
Yes, but mainly for mega popular (male) idol shows.

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:13:50 No.27291165 Report

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>>27291083
Sydsnap doesn't stream enough to get a new model

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:14:07 No.27291175 Report

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>>27290443
>Parra
If converts are allowed, then we should put CookieSwirlC in the VOD tally.

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:14:26 No.27291187 Report

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fauna maintaining her CCV over 6+ hours is very impressive

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:14:49 No.27291210 Report

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>>27291141
>VoDs are probably accurate
so are we adding nnd and b2 to the tally?

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:15:15 No.27291225 Report

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>>27291125
Wonder why people still keep posting shit like that knowing they always get deleted. It's definitely a coordinated effort.

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:15:26 No.27291230 Report

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>>27291125
BASED

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:15:29 No.27291234 Report

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tour
https://twitter.com/Nymo/status/1543066545848401920

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:15:44 No.27291246 Report

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>>27290671
So what this chart tells is that the last liver who achieved back to back monthly gold has left the company due to its restrictive management.
No liver can replicate the record since then.

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:15:51 No.27291251 Report

Quoted By: >>27291274 >>27291366

>>27291158
"processing"
sure

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:16:10 No.27291258 Report

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>>27291083
Ah, so Kson to Vshoujo is a done deal then? Guess I missed that announcement.

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:16:12 No.27291260 Report

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>>27291225
seem 'that' discord channel still active

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:16:27 No.27291274 Report

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>>27291251
what is your issue with that word?

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:16:31 No.27291281 Report

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>>27291234
Pretty cool idea honestly

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:17:26 No.27291316 Report

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>>27291083
Why are their designs blur with one another?

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:17:32 No.27291322 Report

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>>27291258
That's melody.

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:17:32 No.27291323 Report

Quoted By: >>27291456 >>27291551

>>27290722
>>27291051
the question was that which one is "reliable" you fucking retarded
ccv can be easily manipulated than vod views and there are tons of evidences to back it up like this one >>27290279

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:18:20 No.27291346 Report

Quoted By: >>27291421

>>27291234
Kinda like holo expo. There should be a concert, too.

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:18:37 No.27291361 Report

Quoted By: >>27291453

>>27291274
you retards literally witness a process that both adds random amounts of views and even deletes them sometimes and you want me to believe that shit is accurate aside from the whole counting as a view for it if you watch only 30 seconds
fuck off

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:18:43 No.27291366 Report

Quoted By: >>27291440

>>27291251
View processing could only be removing views that are flagged as coming from bots. It's impossible for VoD views to be inflated by processing at least

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:18:57 No.27291376 Report

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>>27291322
I'm blind, that was an honest mistake.

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:18:57 No.27291378 Report

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>>27291258
You're mistaking Melody for Kson.

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:19:05 No.27291393 Report

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>>27290351
AHHHHHHHHHH I HATE THOSE FAGS. I wish there was no EN of either side, 2019 was so much better without those faggots

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:19:08 No.27291396 Report

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>>27291316
Pink
purple
light blue

everywhere

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:19:16 No.27291403 Report

Quoted By: >>27291444

why is mumei like this? streaming over fauna and forcing her to ragequit

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:19:21 No.27291410 Report

Quoted By: >>27291448 >>27291468 >>27291657

streaming for 8 hours is the equivalent of coming back from a 1 month break

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:19:30 No.27291421 Report

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>>27291346
nijifest will better than that

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:20:06 No.27291435 Report

Quoted By: >>27291532 >>27291753

So, is there any reason why theres not many holo and niji nendos? is good smile the one who pick who they want and pay for license?

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:20:15 No.27291440 Report

Quoted By: >>27291471 >>27291477

>>27291366
ah yes, the random amounts added as the process goes on is totally trustable, but ccv? pajeets coded that shit! literally unusable

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:20:21 No.27291444 Report

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>>27291403
>forcing her to ragequit
Anon she beat the game...

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:20:25 No.27291447 Report

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>>27291234
gunrun i kneel

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:20:31 No.27291448 Report

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>>27291410
Fauna is gura disciple
She's going to kill gura soon

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:20:38 No.27291453 Report

Quoted By: >>27291496

>>27291361
what is wrong with you? do you have mental damage, i litterally explained in my previous post that they both have their uses. i'm not saying one is better than the other

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:20:40 No.27291456 Report

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>>27291323
Boths are good and count but CCV is the staple metric used /here/ for the sake of race. Simple as

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:20:56 No.27291468 Report

Quoted By: >>27291593

>>27291410
Gura won't even get half those SC numbers for a comeback stream.

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:20:59 No.27291471 Report

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>>27291440
now you get it

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:21:08 No.27291477 Report

Quoted By: >>27291622

>>27291440
Yes? What the fuck do you think VoD processing is for, it's literally another type of cull

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:21:36 No.27291496 Report

Quoted By: >>27291531

>>27291453
>i'm not saying one is better than the other
sure

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:22:32 No.27291531 Report

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>>27291496
????????
both are useful
both are different
>you are saying one is better
what, you might actually be retarded

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:22:32 No.27291532 Report

Quoted By: >>27291599 >>27291620 >>27291983

>>27291435
>So, is there any reason why theres not many holo and niji nendos?
>not many
>niji yes
>holo not
There are already 20 or so holo got their nendo/figure

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:23:03 No.27291551 Report

Quoted By: >>27291692 >>27291701 >>27296080

>>27291323
I wasn't answering the question directly, I was explaining how CCV is just objectively superior to VoD views in terms of value. Having 10k CCV > having 100k VoD views.

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:23:11 No.27291558 Report

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>>27290719
The venue is around 3k capacity right? For someone whose main audience is NA based that’s pretty good

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:23:15 No.27291561 Report

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>two retards figthing
this should be the title of the thread :)
me? im pretty smart and not autistic af

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:23:34 No.27291578 Report

Quoted By: >>27291645

>>27291421
True, Nijisanji got scared with how good holofest was, so they had to delay to buy more time to polish their contents. If they don't deliver, then it would be all for naught.

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:23:50 No.27291593 Report

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>>27291468
Eh, she always gets more than Ina. I'm honestly shocked Ina got this much considering takos are the biggest jews when it comes to SCs

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:24:09 No.27291599 Report

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>>27291532
HOLO GOLD!!!!

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:24:12 No.27291603 Report

Quoted By: >>27291815

>"ccv is literally unusable as a metric, here are reasons why"
>"how do those not apply to vods"
>"actually both are useful, just used for different things"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:24:35 No.27291620 Report

Quoted By: >>27291703

>>27291532
ok but there's 60 holos. is this because they pick? it doesnt depend on the agencies right

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:24:37 No.27291622 Report

Quoted By: >>27291938

>>27291477
>I don't see how shit the VOD validation code is, therefore it is totally better than CCV!
Same pajeets coded both, I don't see how one is any better than the other.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:25:03 No.27291645 Report

Quoted By: >>27291832

>>27291578
that's kinda sad. they rather one up the competition instead of dedicating it to their fans

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:25:32 No.27291657 Report

Quoted By: >>27291711

>>27291410
Ina has the worst supers in EN short of Sana

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:25:43 No.27291671 Report

Quoted By:

>>27291234
don't they have those telepresence robot for this kind of thing? just strap the rest of the streaming backpack to it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:26:26 No.27291692 Report

Quoted By: >>27291817

>>27291551
I don't really have a horse in this race, but at the end of a 24 hour period why wouldn't the person with more (vod)views be the objective winner of?
I don't know why you would care if you have more upfront if you lose on the backend straight away.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:26:31 No.27291701 Report

Quoted By: >>27291965

>>27291551
>objectively
no that's just your fucking opinion

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:26:34 No.27291703 Report

Quoted By: >>27291807

>>27291620
>it doesnt depend on the agencies right
Depend. The agencies could push it to good smiles, could be GS's choice too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:26:43 No.27291711 Report

Quoted By:

>>27291657
I remember when Sana was an SC powerhouse. Then she fucking disappeared for too long and people started giving her less. Then she disappeared even further and now she doesn't get shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:26:54 No.27291721 Report

Quoted By: >>27292027 >>27292144 >>27292201

>>27290252
So gura paid for her 3d birthday? Thought it's all kanauru doing it for free

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:27:04 No.27291728 Report

Quoted By:

I think CCV and VODs are both important
Stop the stupid argument

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:27:04 No.27291729 Report

Quoted By:

>fauna doesn't raid streams that are actually live

she really is like the saint of /#/

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:27:07 No.27291732 Report

Quoted By:

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:27:47 No.27291753 Report

Quoted By: >>27293426

>>27291435
The question you should be asking is why HoloEN is getting Pop-Up, Figma, Nendo, Omocat clothing, and a PC case while NijiEN only has a nendo of a reclining member.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:27:51 No.27291759 Report

Quoted By:

Why the fuck is Fauna's endurance stream listed as a premiere on Vstats?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:27:52 No.27291760 Report

Quoted By:

I think CCV and VOD should fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:28:14 No.27291781 Report

Quoted By: >>27291818 >>27291858 >>27292075

Is nijiEN malea creatively stunted that they need to resort to asmr for weekly content other than horror/Minecraft? What they've been doing over the past weeks is min/maxing numbers using buff streams and buff timeslots. Including Luca now, there's 3/5 people doing asmr in Luxiem. I have no qualms of asmr but that's the majority of a gen doing asmr when usually it's one person doing it for a gen. For NijiEN girls, only Millie and rosemi does frequent asmr streams, for HoloEN, past Mori and only fauna does asmr. Luxiem has taken on another level of milking money and I'm getting tired of it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:28:25 No.27291790 Report

Quoted By:

Funnel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:28:55 No.27291806 Report

Quoted By:

>>27291225
Shills and beggars do the only thing they know how to do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:29:00 No.27291807 Report

Quoted By:

>>27291703
GS is the one making so i imagine that final decision is on them

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:29:15 No.27291815 Report

Quoted By:

>>27291603
you are confusing me with someone else, i never said ccv was unusable, i'm not the guy sperging out about VODs being more accurate

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:29:15 No.27291817 Report

Quoted By: >>27292218 >>27292416

>>27291692
Because 100k VoD views that only watched 1 minutes of a 2 hour stream should logically lose to a stream that had 10k CCV who watched the whole of a 1 hour stream. This is just basic fucking logic

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:29:19 No.27291818 Report

Quoted By:

>>27291781
Just like their CEO. Short term goals.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:29:34 No.27291832 Report

Quoted By:

>>27291645
There's no winning in supporting Nijisanji, hence why Nijisanji viewers develop multiple variants of inferiority complexes.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:30:08 No.27291858 Report

Quoted By:

>>27291781
my favorite is that their retention is so shit because people join and realize that the asmr is shit and fuck off

But yes they ARE creatively bankrupt because their viewers don't fucking show up for game streams and they care too much about numbers to just play what they want to the point that they sneak one in maybe once every two weeks if you're lucky

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:30:19 No.27291866 Report

Quoted By:

>>27290770
Then please elaborate

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:30:59 No.27291890 Report

Quoted By: >>27291920

We all know CCV is a joke compare to VODs when an Egypt Cleopatra indie can hit 60k CCV when her VODs views only hit 90k

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:31:25 No.27291912 Report

Quoted By:

>>27291376
no, no it is not.
i can only see a fingers length in front of me without my glasses and i could tell who it was

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:31:41 No.27291920 Report

Quoted By:

>>27291890
>only for blind person

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:32:09 No.27291938 Report

Quoted By: >>27291980

>>27291622
Ok but one is trying to measure a point in time in real time and is prone to obvious errors (The Z) whereas the other isn't and can correct for those errors.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:32:49 No.27291965 Report

Quoted By:

>>27291701
I fucking explained why it was true you dumbass. CCV evidently watches more of a stream than VoD watchers do. Even in the most optimistic assumption that VoD watchers view the entire stream, which they do not, they still are not actively engaged as an audience with whatever sponsorships/merch shilling/twitter shilling that's happening live.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:33:04 No.27291971 Report

Quoted By:

>>27291448
wrong, she will have kissy sex with gura

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:33:16 No.27291980 Report

Quoted By: >>27292117

>>27291938
your seatbelt only works 90% of the time, so you should stop using it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:33:20 No.27291983 Report

Quoted By: >>27292752

>>27291532
Including announcements:
24 nendos
9 figma
14 pop ups
3 figures

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:33:36 No.27291989 Report

Quoted By: >>27292134 >>27292150

>Selen tells members that she has so much spare money that her bank is annoying her with calls for her to invest it
https://youtu.be/vsqkXSNpO5I?t=3816

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:33:44 No.27291995 Report

Quoted By: >>27292040 >>27292054 >>27292070

How does VOD views get counted? Does someone have to watch the full stream or just watch a specific percentage of the stream?

VOD views is a shit metric on streams.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:34:27 No.27292027 Report

Quoted By:

>>27291721
she's talking about using the cover studio + staff and other associated costs for 3d stage, assets, etc.
gura, ame and ina have lowres mocap setup at home. they don't have to pay for studio time. ame now has the pro mocap setup so any EN can drop by her studio for something equivalent to the cover studio.
kiara mentioned wanting to have cover do the render but they said no. so that's the only reason she asked kanauru. she originally only wanted to have him do her next orisong mv. also i'm pretty sure kanauru is not doing it all for free.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:34:55 No.27292040 Report

Quoted By:

>>27291995
30seconds then you have to loop it if you wanna count again in the 24hour period

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:35:14 No.27292054 Report

Quoted By:

>>27291995
you literally only have to watch uninterrupted for 30 seconds

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:35:38 No.27292070 Report

Quoted By:

>>27291995
We don't know. All we can be sure of is that just clicking on a video can be enough for videos shorter than 30 seconds. You definitely do not have to watch the entire span of the video to count, which is why the assumption that VoD views = CCV Watch Hours is stupid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:35:40 No.27292075 Report

Quoted By: >>27292301

>>27291781
Has anyone bothered to compare Moris most recent ASMR to Fauna or Voxs in terms of the views it’s getting?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:35:54 No.27292085 Report

Quoted By: >>27292131 >>27292226 >>27292292

>crypto scams getting 50k+ ccv left and right
>/#/ had a meltdown when they found out that CCV can be botted (11$ millie incident)
>somehow faggots here still glorifying that retarded metric and arguing that it's more reliable than vod views
sasuga /#/ the most retarded thread ever

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:36:37 No.27292117 Report

Quoted By:

>>27291980
How is that analogy in any way relevant?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:37:03 No.27292131 Report

Quoted By: >>27292178

>>27292085
ok b2 shill, you'll soon be asking us to trust your engagement counter

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:37:07 No.27292134 Report

Quoted By: >>27292271

>>27291989
should invest all of her money in gold like Scrooge

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:37:24 No.27292144 Report

Quoted By:

>>27291721
Gura had a bigger 3d birthday planned but Cover cockblocked her last minute so they grabbed Kanauru who did a 30 hour day to get something done in time

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:37:32 No.27292150 Report

Quoted By: >>27292394

>>27291989
Streamers with more than 1k CCV are rich, we have known this for a long time

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:38:24 No.27292178 Report

Quoted By:

>>27292131
>b2 shill
but I'm against CCV anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:38:34 No.27292187 Report

Quoted By: >>27292259 >>27292281

already half a day and this topic still going lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:38:35 No.27292189 Report

Quoted By: >>27292238 >>27292268 >>27292335 >>27292385 >>27292658 >>27292732 >>27292794

Isn't it kinda unfair that Omocat keeps approaching HoloEN for merch instead of going for NijiEN? I mean, all of NijiEN are fans of Omori so at least she could show some appreciation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:39:00 No.27292201 Report

Quoted By: >>27292280

>>27291721
why the fuck would he do it for free? they pay him like any other comissioned job

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:39:14 No.27292212 Report

Quoted By:

>>27291421
Imma screencap this for grudge post in the future
Or to add another nijicope list

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:39:19 No.27292218 Report

Quoted By: >>27292311

>>27291817
Ah yes, once you click on a stream you're forced to watch the whole thing you literally can't stop watching in the middle of the stream yeah for sure

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:39:32 No.27292226 Report

Quoted By: >>27292298

>>27292085
CCV is just more entertaining. I tried to explain this last thread, but nobody wants to admit that's the real reason it is the metric of choice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:39:53 No.27292238 Report

Quoted By:

>>27292189
Fulgur.
Go approach her if you want merch. Mori approached her and they got what they wanted. It's not hard. If she says no it's because you're shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:40:24 No.27292258 Report

Quoted By:

CCV horse race is funnier
But VODs is much more reliable
That's it. Case closed

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:40:26 No.27292259 Report

Quoted By:

>>27292187
The objective is to burn this topic to the ground >>27290220

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:40:38 No.27292268 Report

Quoted By:

>>27292189
You posted this last thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:40:41 No.27292271 Report

Quoted By: >>27292382 >>27292478

>>27292134
But seriously is gold investment lucrative? Not really trying to /biz/ over here, but a quick glance at some sites says it's a good idea.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:40:57 No.27292280 Report

Quoted By: >>27292444

>>27292201
he did myth or treat for free. possibly dreaming chuchu as well but i don't remember anyone mentioning it as free.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:41:01 No.27292281 Report

Quoted By: >>27292484

>>27292187
it will never end, i have tried my best to reason that both metrics have uses but for some reason people just want to battle like retards

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:41:21 No.27292292 Report

Quoted By:

>>27292085
You can at least derive a bit from the audience engagement. Authenticity is not a simple thing to replicate artificially.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:41:27 No.27292298 Report

Quoted By:

>>27292226
it's because it's the metric relevant to streamers you fuck, go to fucking lsf or something and see if they discuss asmongold or xqc's vod or some stupid shit, they don't btw, they discuss ccv records

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:41:33 No.27292301 Report

Quoted By: >>27292559

>>27292075
Then compare it to one of the best.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:41:45 No.27292311 Report

Quoted By: >>27292409 >>27292447

>>27292218
Dumbass, if you leave a stream in the middle you stop being counted by CCV. If a streamer has 10k CCV for a whole hour then they're getting that many people watching it the entire time

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:42:41 No.27292335 Report

Quoted By:

>>27292189
maybe china wasn't their target market

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:43:22 No.27292355 Report

Quoted By:

ccv = buying a ticket and going to a concert
vodview = playing the song on spotify

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:44:07 No.27292382 Report

Quoted By:

>>27292271
I remember seeing some bullshit rrat on another board(suprisingly, not /pol/) that America lost all the gold it had in its reserve and was unable to pay it back to people who wanted to exchange their currency for it and that's why the gold standard was abandoned, and the government was trying to hit that knowledge.

Make of that what you will

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:44:09 No.27292385 Report

Quoted By:

>>27292189
Supporting Nijisanji is a lost cause.
Abandoning Nijisanji is the first step toward enlightenment.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:44:23 No.27292394 Report

Quoted By: >>27292793

>>27292150
this thread acts like nijien girls are dying, or any streamer below 10k, even without the purposese of this thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:44:45 No.27292409 Report

Quoted By: >>27292554

>>27292311
unless you alt tab, or get shadowbanned or stuck in the verification queue ccv isn't infallible. same with vods 30sec views, multi views, "spam" viewer removal. there is no be all and end all
the only thing that is certain is that ccv is best for the horse race

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:44:59 No.27292416 Report

Quoted By: >>27292521

>>27291817
For instance, I guarantee pekora blew gura away in the CCV of this stream, but even though she streamed for 30 minutes longer, gura pulled ahead and even now stayed ahead.
Regardless of how you slice it, you would rather be Gura than Pekora in this instance. It's why trying to say one is objectively always better is silly.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:45:37 No.27292440 Report

Quoted By:

>w-why do Nijisanji EN guys stream only buff c-content?
>i-it's bad for them and their numbers long term, they should try and focus on regular games more

this is the reality, faggots

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:46:00 No.27292444 Report

Quoted By: >>27292615

>>27292280
???
Source on that?
I'm pretty sure he was commisioned for those

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:46:07 No.27292447 Report

Quoted By:

>>27292311
Except everybody here masturbates over momentary peaks and even if you calculate averages its going to be affected by inaccurate tracking of the ccv.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:46:45 No.27292476 Report

Quoted By: >>27292507 >>27292556 >>27292919

So what are today's contenders? Azki's live and?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:46:55 No.27292478 Report

Quoted By:

>>27292271
no. gold has been in a strange valuation since cryptos took over half the goldbugs that used to drive up prices.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:47:02 No.27292484 Report

Quoted By:

>>27292281
they just love heated banter
this video explain CCV and vod view is good and no one watch it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKzOqaI65bU

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:47:36 No.27292507 Report

Quoted By:

>>27292476
Duck birthday

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:47:44 No.27292513 Report

Quoted By:

>salome unable to put up high number
>But has a good VOD
>Ccv vs vod timeloop
Nijifuckery really coping so hard that they're trying hard to changed the game

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:48:00 No.27292521 Report

Quoted By:

>>27292416
>individual vod comparing
stop going to bat for lazy whores, channels behave differently depending on the frequency of streams

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:49:00 No.27292554 Report

Quoted By: >>27292610

>>27292409
No fuck you dumbass. If you have 10k CCV then you have at least that many people watching you, you might have more but there is a fucking floor which is usable information

There is far to much ambiguity in the value of a single VoD view, you can never tell how much any given viewer has watched of a video or if they skipped over the portions of the stream where you shilled merch, so VoD viewers have a vastly lower floor value, and even their highest value is lower than a CCV.

Fucking think for five seconds, would you rather have 100 VoD viewer or 100 CCV? At a 1 to 1 exchange rate, obviously CCV is better, because 10k CCV is at least equivalent to 10k VoD views, but will generally be far greater

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:49:03 No.27292556 Report

Quoted By:

>>27292476
AZKi's live isn't on the same day.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:49:09 No.27292559 Report

Quoted By: >>27292644 >>27292650

>>27292301
Fauna 373k views for 17th of May
Mori 384k views 27th of May
Vox 376k 30th of May(This is the one that caused the Reimu shit I’m pretty sure)
Grabbed entirely for similar dates
Who’s a big ASMR Vtuber with a video around this timeframe?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:50:18 No.27292610 Report

Quoted By: >>27292715 >>27292874

>>27292554
ok i'm done, i have tried to be resonable offering positives and negatives for both sides but you are just intent to sperg out about one being better than the other

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:50:26 No.27292615 Report

Quoted By: >>27293317

>>27292444
myth or treat one is from one of the ame chat stream. it'll take me a while to find it.
the other ones, people have said he did it for free but i don't think ame or kiara ever mentioned it.

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:50:28 No.27292619 Report

Quoted By: >>27292728 >>27292809

>Pekora doing well
>Gura doing well
>Nijinigs declining
Feeling pretty good right now holobros

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:51:11 No.27292644 Report

Quoted By:

>>27292559
Noel Asmr on May 18 i think.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:51:25 No.27292650 Report

Quoted By:

>>27292559
Noel has one for the 18th of May, it's at 1.2M

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:51:44 No.27292658 Report

Quoted By:

>>27292189
Plenty of business partners are abandoning Niji. They have too many Yabs of the political kind to be "safe".

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:53:09 No.27292715 Report

Quoted By: >>27292874

>>27292610
There are no such things as equals in this world. Everything is either superior or inferior, there is no comparison between distinct entities or concepts which doesn't inevitably conclude that one is greater than the other

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:53:37 No.27292728 Report

Quoted By:

>>27292619
but i hate pego(btw im a chumpedo)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:53:44 No.27292732 Report

Quoted By:

>>27292189
why do they not approach the political virtue signaling livers? it's a mystery for sure

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:54:10 No.27292752 Report

Quoted By: >>27292830 >>27292845 >>27293099

>>27291983
Visualized.
Green is released/pre-orders open and orange is announced.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:54:46 No.27292780 Report

Quoted By: >>27292818 >>27292859

Wait Fauna had Zero gifted member during the whole ass 6hrs stream? Sapling are fucking based

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:55:08 No.27292793 Report

Quoted By: >>27293101

>>27292394
Sodapoppin is a millionaire and he's like a 10k streamer at best usually. Pekora is probably rolling in so much money she might have been able to buy stock in Anykara

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:55:09 No.27292794 Report

Quoted By: >>27292868

>>27292189
>like, RT and praise holo's Omocat merch
>add "i wish niji EN can collab with Omocat too"
simple, if they denie it, the problem is on niji's streamer too problematic

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:55:10 No.27292798 Report

Quoted By: >>27292838 >>27292862

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:55:30 No.27292809 Report

Quoted By: >>27292857 >>27292889

>>27292619
>Gura doing well
She's only doing well among EN midgets and should not even be put in the same sentence as Pekora.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:55:46 No.27292818 Report

Quoted By: >>27292898

>>27292780
She had a 50 gifts pack. Where are you tracking this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:55:59 No.27292830 Report

Quoted By: >>27292896

>>27292752
yonkisei... gokisei...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:56:12 No.27292838 Report

Quoted By:

>>27292798
Pink Gura

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:56:21 No.27292845 Report

Quoted By: >>27292987

>>27292752
What's the different between pop-up and figure?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:56:38 No.27292857 Report

Quoted By: >>27292904 >>27292909

>>27292809
Dude, she's objectively preforming better than Sykkuno, who is a streamer Youtube bought for like 30 million dollars

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:56:41 No.27292859 Report

Quoted By:

>>27292780
>fucking based
For what?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:56:45 No.27292862 Report

Quoted By:

>>27292798
generic cat girl. is a good choice for a nendo

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:56:54 No.27292868 Report

Quoted By:

>>27292794
> be a nijibeggar
Why are you like this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:57:05 No.27292874 Report

Quoted By: >>27292925 >>27293002

>>27292610
>>27292715
Or you know, you fags can just not compare CCV with vod views? They serve different way to look at the metrics and arguing that one is superior than the other is just pure stupidity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:57:08 No.27292876 Report

Quoted By: >>27293102

https://youtu.be/NLO5-IyS5pE

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:57:33 No.27292889 Report

Quoted By: >>27292928 >>27292942

>>27292809
gura could kill pegora in a 1v1 melee fight

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:57:41 No.27292896 Report

Quoted By: >>27292995

>>27292830
gokisei wasn't even in the fucking sanrio collab, these things must take fucking forever to set up

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:57:50 No.27292898 Report

Quoted By: >>27293082

>>27292818
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
Here. only normal member and SC. No + gifted member.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:57:57 No.27292904 Report

Quoted By:

>>27292857
Who? I don't give a fuck about normalfaggots, this is a vtuber board.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:58:03 No.27292909 Report

Quoted By: >>27293006

>>27292857
shes around on par with ludwig as well. i know its playboard but i'm not aware of a site which tracks them

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:58:20 No.27292919 Report

Quoted By:

>>27292476
a hololive stream will win
who cares

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:58:35 No.27292925 Report

Quoted By: >>27293024

>>27292874
I'd say whomever wants to track Vods can make a VoD tally. There are all kinds of tallys now if they want it so badly they sould just go and do it themselves

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:58:36 No.27292928 Report

Quoted By:

>>27292889
Why would a shark fight a rabbit unless pekora decides to swim.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:58:57 No.27292942 Report

Quoted By: >>27292994

>>27292889
Gura lost to fucking Ina, anon. She's weak as a tissue paper.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 05:59:50 No.27292974 Report

Quoted By: >>27292992 >>27293003 >>27293058 >>27293189

Why do some retards still say CCV is better metric than VODs when this happened?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:00:12 No.27292987 Report

Quoted By: >>27293106

>>27292845
Popup is way less detailed than scale figure. Call it budget figure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:00:21 No.27292992 Report

Quoted By:

>>27292974
Gold?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:00:25 No.27292994 Report

Quoted By:

>>27292942
but she also won against mori when using her dex
https://youtu.be/3wsiJVzv9vg?t=4587

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:00:26 No.27292995 Report

Quoted By:

>>27292896
That one's an anomaly though. That was fucking announced last year in April and it has only now come through.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:00:35 No.27293002 Report

Quoted By:

>>27292874
that is exactly what i've been saying....

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:00:36 No.27293003 Report

Quoted By:

>>27292974
views are forever
ccv is for bitches

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:00:40 No.27293006 Report

Quoted By: >>27293042 >>27293048

>>27292909
Nobofy gives a guck about these faggots or how much money Susan wasted on tbem. Whst the fuck is this cope?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:00:59 No.27293024 Report

Quoted By:

>>27292925
This is the solution, if you want to measure vods just do it and they can have their own category, they measure a different form of reach / popularity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:01:24 No.27293042 Report

Quoted By: >>27293090 >>27293156

>>27293006
alcohol was clearly a mistake

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:01:31 No.27293048 Report

Quoted By: >>27293156

>>27293006
dude i'm drunk and i want to know how much you've had

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:01:33 No.27293051 Report

Quoted By: >>27293250 >>27294052

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:01:49 No.27293058 Report

Quoted By: >>27293180

>>27292974
retarded argument, do you refuse to go on planes because some of them have fallen before

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:02:21 No.27293082 Report

Quoted By: >>27293745

>>27292898
Someone gifted 50 early-ish. Others also gifted. It's not being tracked then.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:02:27 No.27293090 Report

Quoted By:

>>27293042
Drunk shitposting is never a mistake anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:02:42 No.27293099 Report

Quoted By: >>27293136 >>27293221

>>27292752
what's the deal with yonkisei?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:02:44 No.27293101 Report

Quoted By: >>27293198 >>27293295

>>27292793
>Pekora is probably rolling in so much money
imagine being this delusional
JP ccv doesn't mean shit and it's literally like Venezuela currency for them meanwhile EN streamers who are getting 1/3 of her ccv are fucking millionaires and YT is contracting them up for 30m dollars lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:02:47 No.27293102 Report

Quoted By: >>27293236 >>27294350

>>27292876
This is a completely different topic.

But do you think people in companies like Cover and Anycolor have staff who spend their days looking up shit like this and learning about the algorithm and pouring over the data? They must obviously have better details on their numbers than we do, but do they have people who's job it is to obsess over it like us?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:02:48 No.27293106 Report

Quoted By: >>27293288

>>27292987
So the prototype they show at AX for Gura is counted as Popup but what about the one at holofes (small one)?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:03:26 No.27293134 Report

Quoted By:

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:03:27 No.27293136 Report

Quoted By:

>>27293099
coco graduating probably fucked a lot of things for them

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:03:51 No.27293156 Report

Quoted By: >>27293224

>>27293042
>>27293048
I'm still right, typos are irrelevant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:03:52 No.27293157 Report

Quoted By: >>27293268 >>27293307

>mumei karaoke tomorrow
guaranteded en gold provided gura doesn't come back

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:04:12 No.27293180 Report

Quoted By:

>>27293058
Worse yet, there's a snake on the plane with Samuel L Jackson

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:04:27 No.27293189 Report

Quoted By:

>>27292974
What's her CCV nowadays?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:04:40 No.27293198 Report

Quoted By: >>27293524

>>27293101
Baffling post

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:05:16 No.27293221 Report

Quoted By:

>>27293099
They're prioritizing the older gens first but I'm surprised that Myth basically got to cut in line. I'm guessing GSC/Cover really wanted to get Myth merch out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:05:17 No.27293224 Report

Quoted By: >>27293481

>>27293156
no, they are relevant, and i'm multiple drinks in but i am still able to type a coherent sentence

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:05:26 No.27293227 Report

Quoted By: >>27293260

Senchou playing HoloCure today, yeah Salome will slip again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:05:42 No.27293236 Report

Quoted By: >>27293306

>>27293102
Y...yes? Anon, this is a major part in their business model, why wouldn't they want someone in charge of being autistic about it?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:05:58 No.27293250 Report

Quoted By:

>>27293051
Link to the source? I want to down load a higher quality image

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:06:00 No.27293254 Report

Quoted By:

>niji can’t compete anymore…. Again
>back to holoJP vs HoloEN
>back to Gura vs Peko

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:06:08 No.27293260 Report

Quoted By: >>27293371

>>27293227
What's the target to beat?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:06:16 No.27293268 Report

Quoted By:

>>27293157
>en gold

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:06:50 No.27293288 Report

Quoted By:

>>27293106
That one should be a scale figure but we don't have information on who make the figure and the release date.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:07:02 No.27293295 Report

Quoted By: >>27293524

>>27293101
C O P E

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:07:03 No.27293296 Report

Quoted By: >>27293387

https://twitter.com/nero_angelus/status/1543046927985430530?t=gnFXQ3HZxCkc2eKEktxWXA&s=19

Jesus, even in America, Risu has a rich simp

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:07:13 No.27293306 Report

Quoted By:

>>27293236
But they don't seem to effectively implement a lot of the algorithm shit that has been discovered...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:07:14 No.27293307 Report

Quoted By: >>27293346

>>27293157
There's a decent probability Gura would do a mengen comeback instead of a public one honestly so even if Gura is back to streaming by tomorrow she might still get gold.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:07:35 No.27293317 Report

Quoted By: >>27293447 >>27293494

>>27292615
Nah, just by reading his comment on the myth or treat video you can tell it was commisioned

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:08:22 No.27293346 Report

Quoted By: >>27293413

>>27293307
there is a chance of that since she now has member gifting enabled so she might still be trying to disable it if she wants to

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:08:33 No.27293359 Report

Quoted By:

Can I get a link to the Vstats stuff? It's not on the site linked upthread

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:08:56 No.27293371 Report

Quoted By:

>>27293260
43k.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:09:34 No.27293387 Report

Quoted By:

>>27293296
Think it’s guy that activated her $1k streamlabs sound a few times

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:09:51 No.27293399 Report

Quoted By: >>27293509

The reason vshojo can't get sponsorships is because they are not an advertiser friendly brand. And the ones they could get are not allowed to be shown on Twitch or some crypto/NFT scam.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:10:12 No.27293413 Report

Quoted By: >>27293642

>>27293346
>there is a chance
It's already enabled, it was since at least as early as that unarchived offcollab karaoke. I could see her trying to get it sorted though, though I think she'll end up giving up like the JPs if she does try.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:10:26 No.27293426 Report

Quoted By:

>>27291753
Because they haven't found out about Vox's past life pedo'ic history yet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:10:35 No.27293432 Report

Quoted By: >>27293467 >>27293530 >>27293707

Predict on Ollie, Kobo, Matsuri valorant collab?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:10:53 No.27293447 Report

Quoted By:

>>27293317
he should be paid, but could also mean he offered and they agreed to send him the data

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:11:27 No.27293467 Report

Quoted By: >>27293541 >>27293626

>>27293432
only Kobo will pass 10k

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:11:30 No.27293469 Report

Quoted By:

Fucking hell, Nijisanji needs a buff game because they can't keep losing to HoloCure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:11:55 No.27293481 Report

Quoted By:

>>27293224
But can you recite the alphabet backwards? Checkmate, atheist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:12:16 No.27293494 Report

Quoted By:

>>27293317
yes, ame is the one that asked him to make the mv
it was a comment somewhere else where she said he refused the payment
the other videos he did are likely paid for though

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:12:31 No.27293505 Report

Quoted By:

Since people were bringing up the cull again today, I found an old screenshot.

This is the weird shit that people were extremely suspicious of .

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:12:35 No.27293509 Report

Quoted By: >>27293766

>>27293399
Actually, genuine question to any VShoujo fags here if you even fucking exist, do they have / have they had any sponsorships?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:12:58 No.27293524 Report

Quoted By: >>27293591

>>27293198
>>27293295
what was Cover's last financial report again? less than what Ludwig and sykkuno got from YT? FUCKING KEK IMAGINE THE WHOLE HOLOJP IS LOSING TO A SINGLE ONE EN STREAMER

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:13:10 No.27293530 Report

Quoted By:

>>27293432
1-3k for Ollie/Matsuri, Kobo 10k-12k

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:13:24 No.27293541 Report

Quoted By:

>>27293467
>Only Ollie's Pov
It's over...

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:13:52 No.27293555 Report

Quoted By: >>27293631

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:14:08 No.27293570 Report

Quoted By:

why's nijingger so mad rn?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:14:11 No.27293573 Report

Quoted By:

any chuba play Neon White already?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:14:43 No.27293591 Report

Quoted By:

>>27293524
nijicope

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:15:52 No.27293626 Report

Quoted By:

>>27293467
https://twitter.com/kobokanaeru/status/1542010877322203136
she will open the frame

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:15:59 No.27293631 Report

Quoted By: >>27293698 >>27293700 >>27293717 >>27293777 >>27293803 >>27294111 >>27295450 >>27295514

>>27293555
What is the benefit of Kson joining Vshojo?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:16:23 No.27293642 Report

Quoted By: >>27293745

>>27293413
i meant there's a chance of a member stream first. i know she has member gifting enabled, but based on fauna's recent stream she manage to get gifting disabled

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:18:00 No.27293698 Report

Quoted By: >>27293766

>>27293631
proper merch and 3D live
also Connor collab

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:18:06 No.27293700 Report

Quoted By: >>27293981

>>27293631
None unless they gave her a big chunk of that $11 million

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:18:21 No.27293707 Report

Quoted By:

>>27293432
Can Matsuri get more CCV than Ollie?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:18:25 No.27293711 Report

Quoted By: >>27293776 >>27293779

So, Salome was just a prolonged debut buff case?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:18:35 No.27293717 Report

Quoted By: >>27293764

>>27293631
>kson saviorfag
they need to be saved

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:19:19 No.27293745 Report

Quoted By: >>27293963

>>27293642
Oh, I uh totally misread that post. I blame the scotch. Also >>27293082 says she got 50 + some more so I don't think she managed to do so. The JPs are even more autistic about it and they haven't managed it until now, though I guess they're also more tech illiterate for the most part.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:19:37 No.27293764 Report

Quoted By: >>27293837

>>27293717
Not everything that needs saving should be saved.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:19:42 No.27293766 Report

Quoted By: >>27293873

>>27293509
Looks like a couple gacha and game sponsorships. Everything else seems to be Twitch bounty system.
>>27293698
Kson already does that herself. She even gets her own sponsorships.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:20:01 No.27293776 Report

Quoted By:

>>27293711
>nonbora lost her debut buff after 1 stream

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:20:05 No.27293777 Report

Quoted By: >>27293863 >>27294516

>>27293631
Friends and family. A sense of belonging. The feeling of being a part of something greater than herself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:20:08 No.27293779 Report

Quoted By:

>>27293711
>Prolonged
It was average debut buff, at least in terms of time

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:20:32 No.27293794 Report

Quoted By: >>27293882 >>27293987 >>27294126

>>27290351
> removed
As expected.
Do you think it'll become annoying enough that they might have to publicly address it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:20:50 No.27293803 Report

Quoted By:

>>27293631
They can whore themselves together

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:21:12 No.27293823 Report

Quoted By: >>27293869 >>27293880 >>27294427 >>27294586

This thing keeps growing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:21:32 No.27293837 Report

Quoted By:

>>27293764
Wisdom

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:22:14 No.27293863 Report

Quoted By:

>>27293777
so the reason she left Cover is because the lack of whore like her there

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:22:21 No.27293869 Report

Quoted By: >>27293944 >>27294018 >>27294426

>>27293823
How many 1M VODs Gura has now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:22:28 No.27293873 Report

Quoted By: >>27293951

>>27293766
>couple gacha and game sponsorships
Yeah, that's what I expected. I honestly can't see them grabbing a big sponsorship in any way, plus I don't think companies here in the west are itching at sponsoring chuubas in the first place, apart from the manga/anime and manga/anime-adjacent ones. Though judging from Anykara's IPO slides I don't think it's too big of a deal if you don't have that many sponsorships.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:22:34 No.27293880 Report

Quoted By: >>27294091 >>27294694

>>27293823
30 seconds of view time. Worthless

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:22:36 No.27293882 Report

Quoted By: >>27293985

>>27293794
Who is phantomos anyway?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:23:41 No.27293923 Report

Quoted By:

subaru had like a 4k Z

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:24:16 No.27293944 Report

Quoted By:

>>27293869
From a cursory glance I counted like 40.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:24:18 No.27293947 Report

Quoted By: >>27293995 >>27294086

Speaking about kson, today is July 2nd already, where is her le creatividad stuff?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:24:26 No.27293951 Report

Quoted By: >>27294039 >>27294061 >>27294157 >>27294343

>>27293873
Anykara's slides are manipulated as fuck

Sponsorships are a primary revenue source, even according to their own words

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:24:50 No.27293963 Report

Quoted By: >>27294116 >>27294157 >>27294168

>>27293745
granted, i am basing this off of a single stream but it was one that ran for over 8 hrs without a single gift.
i'll need some proof of an earlier 50+ gift since it wasn't tracked by hololyzer

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:25:25 No.27293981 Report

Quoted By:

>>27293700
>None unless they gave her a big chunk of that $11 million
THIS. They need a popular Vtuber to legitimize VShojoJP

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:25:33 No.27293985 Report

Quoted By: >>27294130

>>27293882
Reimu “fans”. Stealth shilling/saviorfaging since she is dead last in her branch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:25:36 No.27293987 Report

Quoted By:

>>27293794
>nijinig put this effort as daily basis
>new rule banning Nijisanji related get implemented

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:25:49 No.27293995 Report

Quoted By:

>>27293947
she's joining vshojojp, that's plenty creativity right there

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:26:25 No.27294018 Report

Quoted By:

>>27293869
40 streams and 5 songs

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:26:59 No.27294039 Report

Quoted By:

>>27293951
What does "content" in this context even mean?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:27:23 No.27294052 Report

Quoted By:

>>27293051
Oh so because of this vod vs ccv timeloop happen again
Niji really want to win arent they

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:27:30 No.27294061 Report

Quoted By: >>27294100

>>27293951
is this official slide? looks like middle school assignment

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:28:28 No.27294086 Report

Quoted By:

>>27293947
Showed her ass on stream and also her friends puss on another. Top tier creativity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:28:34 No.27294091 Report

Quoted By: >>27294524 >>27295130

>>27293880
Nah, but you can see that people just replay the songs. Balalaika seems to be the most popular.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:28:38 No.27294096 Report

Quoted By:

>>27291225
They're either retards or they don't care. It can take T-chan a while to remove things since dealing with their bullshit is not their primary job, so they advertise while they can.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:28:42 No.27294100 Report

Quoted By:

>>27294061
investors are stupid so this is the level it needs to be at

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:29:04 No.27294111 Report

Quoted By:

>>27293631
Honestly, kson joining vshojo is the biggest betrayal in the Hololive series. Coco left, saying goodbye to her friends to fly to newer lands, whereby she flew west and found another tribe called vshojo who's not only primitive, but barbaric. Her mission then is to help the tribe grow larger with her knowledge. When vshojoJP is announced, EN 3 will follow a few weeks later with the announcement of wave 6 in the same week. It's the new big arc for vtubers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:29:08 No.27294116 Report

Quoted By: >>27294380 >>27295593

>>27293963
superchat with IDR always makes me laugh no offense tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:29:28 No.27294126 Report

Quoted By: >>27295511

>>27293794
They've addressed it before iirc
Basically the rule of thumb is that the Hololive member has to be actively interacting with the outsider AND it has to be focused on the Hololive member.
It's the difference between "Kiara and Pomu did something funny on twitter!" being acceptable and "Look at what Pomu did!" is not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:29:30 No.27294130 Report

Quoted By:

>>27293985
Oh that's Reimu? Her dog deserved to die kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:30:01 No.27294148 Report

Quoted By:

>>27290671
>view/time
stop

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:30:25 No.27294157 Report

Quoted By: >>27294227

>>27293963
Fair enough, I guess I'll wait and see if there's any proof of that.
>>27293951
Well yes, but any way you cut it merch is still by far where the money is at. I know sponsorships are practically free money since all you have to do is shill them on stream for a little or make some other form of content for them but for a 2nd/3rd rate company like vshoujo I don't think it's critical so long as they've got merch sales. Uh... actually, they've got merch sales right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:30:37 No.27294168 Report

Quoted By: >>27294433

>>27293963
I stayed at the time of her clearing and there's no gifted member too. Maybe it didn't scrap pre-chat? though for an 8hr stream it's still weird to not have any unless she has that few gachi like Korone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:30:46 No.27294173 Report

Quoted By: >>27294199 >>27294220 >>27294225 >>27294290

Prediction for todays gold?
Salome, Subaru, Marine, Azki, mahjong tourney, something else?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:32:11 No.27294199 Report

Quoted By: >>27294223

>>27294173
Gura

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:33:05 No.27294220 Report

Quoted By:

>>27294173
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGqtJYqVgu8

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:33:10 No.27294223 Report

Quoted By:

>>27294199
roru

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:33:17 No.27294225 Report

Quoted By:

>>27294173
Gura

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:33:20 No.27294227 Report

Quoted By: >>27294309 >>27294323

>>27294157
I'd be surprised if they got many merch sales. None of their "limited edition" merch has ever sold out and a lot of it is cheap shit like acrylic stands.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:35:15 No.27294290 Report

Quoted By:

>>27294173
>marine is gonna stream holocure
>she loves gura
>therefore she's likely to play gura
Gura gold confirmed

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:36:01 No.27294309 Report

Quoted By:

>>27294227
China is hardly a good market to delve in. The population would rather buy cheap knockoffs than the official one. Burgers at least can splurge money now for merch with the low shipping fee.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:36:20 No.27294323 Report

Quoted By:

>>27294227
>None of their "limited edition" merch has ever sold out and a lot of it is cheap shit like acrylic stands.
I'm sure they're still doing OK financially but fuck me that's kind of sad. Does it really take a genius to ballpark estimate how much they need to stock to make sure it's just barely not enough?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:36:27 No.27294329 Report

Quoted By:

if gura streams she'll get the best vod so she wins ccv fags

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:36:58 No.27294343 Report

Quoted By: >>27294378 >>27294448

>>27293951
I'm sure Anikara made this slide by having an ESL intern to do it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:37:11 No.27294350 Report

Quoted By:

>>27293102
The way they go about think they don't give a damn ab it at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:37:44 No.27294362 Report

Quoted By: >>27294425 >>27294441 >>27294543

What's the current ccv record in holocure?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:38:09 No.27294378 Report

Quoted By:

>>27294343
Anon it says "Machine Translated by Google" on the top left of the slide "

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:38:16 No.27294380 Report

Quoted By:

>>27294116
At least it's not ars

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:39:36 No.27294425 Report

Quoted By: >>27294451 >>27294502

>>27294362
pekor 62k

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:39:36 No.27294426 Report

Quoted By: >>27294453 >>27294776

>>27293869
how many JPs is she behind?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:39:40 No.27294427 Report

Quoted By:

>>27293823
This isn't surprising, 70% of this is basically an archived Gura karaoke. Gura has only 1 other such thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:39:56 No.27294433 Report

Quoted By:

>>27294168
yeah, the length of the stream is what makes me think she got them disable

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:40:06 No.27294441 Report

Quoted By: >>27294482 >>27294502

>>27294362
Peko 62k playing as Gura.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:40:18 No.27294448 Report

Quoted By: >>27294473

>>27294343
it's was MTL
they don't have the funds to pay the translator

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:40:25 No.27294451 Report

Quoted By: >>27294645 >>27294932

>>27294425
Whats the current top 10 ccv?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:40:26 No.27294453 Report

Quoted By:

>>27294426
0

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:41:08 No.27294473 Report

Quoted By:

>>27294448
No one wants the shame of being a translator for Anykara. By contrast, Cover has people lining up to translate their shit for free lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:41:20 No.27294482 Report

Quoted By:

>>27294441
Gura Gold!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:41:55 No.27294502 Report

Quoted By:

>>27294425
>>27294441
yeah that was considered Gura gold

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:42:21 No.27294516 Report

Quoted By:

>>27293777

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:42:34 No.27294524 Report

Quoted By:

>>27294091
I wonder if those people are counted as separate views or as the same view with increasing watch time

More shit we'll never know about the algorithm

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:42:54 No.27294542 Report

Quoted By: >>27294557

Damn chumbuds are desperate for numbers huh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:42:55 No.27294543 Report

Quoted By: >>27294700

>>27294362
Pekora with 62K on a uncontested slot with the aid of a 3D live funnel. I don't see Marine beating it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:43:00 No.27294546 Report

Quoted By: >>27294568 >>27294573 >>27294617 >>27294920

whats with all the gura falseflagging all of a sudden

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:43:25 No.27294557 Report

Quoted By:

>>27294542
Yeah anon, totally chumbuds, just like you're totally real third party observer

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:43:39 No.27294568 Report

Quoted By:

>>27294546
VoDCope

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:43:45 No.27294573 Report

Quoted By:

>>27294546
ccv vs vod cope ended

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:43:57 No.27294584 Report

Quoted By: >>27294709

Peko has already cleared a stage with Gura, she won't play as her again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:43:58 No.27294586 Report

Quoted By:

>>27293823
That reminds me, Arm wrestle vod is at 487k and karaoke is at 596k

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:44:00 No.27294589 Report

Quoted By: >>27294690

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGqtJYqVgu8
>250 people 6 hours before the stream
numbers prediction?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:45:02 No.27294617 Report

Quoted By:

>>27294546
Trolling the chumbie VODcoper, I guess.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:45:30 No.27294628 Report

Quoted By:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvq9TjloZRY

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:45:57 No.27294645 Report

Quoted By: >>27294719 >>27294723 >>27294731 >>27294738 >>27294944

>>27294451
pekor 62k
pekor 52k
miko 43k
pekor 41k
korone 39k
shuba 36k
suisei 31k
koyori 29k
botan 27k
kronii 26k

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:47:25 No.27294690 Report

Quoted By: >>27294739

>>27294589
35k

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:47:33 No.27294694 Report

Quoted By: >>27295073

>>27293880
If youtube counts it as a view, why is it worthless? It's clearly YT themselves saying "yup this is good for us, +1". I wish the people in this stupid thread used their retarded brains once in a while.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:47:40 No.27294700 Report

Quoted By: >>27294821

>>27294543
Its not exactly uncontested though there are 5 JPs stream after the 3D.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:47:56 No.27294709 Report

Quoted By:

>>27294584
she wont touch the game again until her own character is out

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:48:14 No.27294719 Report

Quoted By:

>>27294645
>Pekora already milked EN 3 times
Jesas, leave something for the EN members themselves

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:48:20 No.27294723 Report

Quoted By:

>>27294645
>pekora 41k
When was this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:48:31 No.27294731 Report

Quoted By:

>>27294645
Miko would have gotten higher if she wasn't so shit at it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:48:42 No.27294738 Report

Quoted By:

>>27294645
Pekora only played twice no?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:48:46 No.27294739 Report

Quoted By:

>>27294690
way too low
she got 31K with wii sports yesterday

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:49:25 No.27294760 Report

Quoted By: >>27294844 >>27294865 >>27294912

Why do Vtubers have such shitty VoD growth anyway? Typically content creators with more than a million subs can reliably hit over a million views on their videos, even ones over an hour long

I thought Hololive had a stranglehold on the algorithm, what gives?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:49:55 No.27294776 Report

Quoted By:

>>27294426
Marine if you count everything (mainly shorts), nobody if you only count stream VODs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:51:21 No.27294821 Report

Quoted By:

>>27294700
I'm talking about heavy hitters.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:51:56 No.27294843 Report

Quoted By: >>27294968 >>27294989 >>27295239 >>27295538 >>27296257

FUCKING KEK HOLY SHIT
THIS JUST PROVES HOW WORTHLESS JP CCV ARE

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:51:59 No.27294844 Report

Quoted By:

>>27294760
Use your brain
for
20 FUCKING SECONDS

Few people watch entire streams worth of VODS, videos with 2-4 hours of longform streamed content are not popular at all. When we discuss vtuber vods we discuss them against each other.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:52:38 No.27294865 Report

Quoted By:

>>27294760
>I thought Hololive had a stranglehold on the algorithm, what gives?
i get niji shit in my recommends all the time even if i don't watch a single one. probably because of this thread now that i think about it

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:54:01 No.27294912 Report

Quoted By:

>>27294760
11 Million subs BTW

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:54:23 No.27294920 Report

Quoted By:

>>27294546
>all of a sudden

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:54:50 No.27294932 Report

Quoted By:

>>27294451
this is the full list i have, keep in mind some of these happened during overlaps or whatever, just one per member

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:55:03 No.27294944 Report

Quoted By: >>27294956

>>27294645
>pekor 52k
>pekor 41k
You do know these two are from the same stream?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:55:42 No.27294956 Report

Quoted By: >>27294979

>>27294944
yeah i think that one was the one that went to the next day

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:56:04 No.27294968 Report

Quoted By: >>27295092

>>27294843

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:56:05 No.27294969 Report

Quoted By:

Well these baits are kinda stale and the discussions are kinda shit, see you later in the chuba derby faggots.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:56:26 No.27294978 Report

Quoted By:

The problem with VOD discussion is that:
1)some retards use it to say it matches CCV or that its better
2)some other retards, even when the first group isn't around, will begin seething uncontrollably and acting like VOD discussion is about that only

I'm so sick of this loop.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:56:26 No.27294979 Report

Quoted By:

>>27294956
Yeah

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:56:52 No.27294989 Report

Quoted By: >>27295092

>>27294843
cope

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:57:35 No.27295015 Report

Quoted By: >>27295105 >>27295161 >>27295182 >>27295232

Surprising how quickly Mori's yab got sidelined thanks to the girls streaming normally like nothing was wrong (and the kino offcollabs + attention shifting to Ina's back).
This is why it's important to not talk about dramashit on Stream.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:57:45 No.27295019 Report

Quoted By: >>27295048 >>27295071 >>27295076 >>27295086 >>27295094 >>27295193 >>27295576

sora got hacked https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1543123889911664640

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:58:49 No.27295048 Report

Quoted By:

>>27295019
sofa chan....

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:59:27 No.27295071 Report

Quoted By:

>>27295019
>TikTok
Wow, literally nothingburger

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:59:29 No.27295073 Report

Quoted By: >>27295272

>>27294694
If the value of a view varies from 'watched 30 seconds, good enough to count' and 'you watched a 1 hour VoD multiple times, you still only count as 1 view' then using Views is just fucking stupid. There's no accounting for their inherent variability

They're also less likely to buy shit, because VoD watchers are lower engagement comparatively, think of how 100k CCV will watch a Vtuber shilling their merch live, that's an Advertisement to 100k people who will sit through the whole thing and are more likely to buy it because they're already more invested in the content.

If you ask those people to Tweet you can hit #1 on Twitter. If you tell them to go watch someone else's stream you don't even need to raid, they'll funnel in. If you do a membership stream afterwards, you'll have a massive boost in memberships, because people who watch live are also more likely to member to you. They're likewise more likely to superchat.

Live watchers represent high viewer retention, high watch time, massive amounts of algorithm push. They're just better than VoD watchers for the most part.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:59:33 No.27295076 Report

Quoted By:

>>27295019
>TikTok account

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 06:59:56 No.27295086 Report

Quoted By:

>>27295019
>TikTok

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:00:27 No.27295092 Report

Quoted By: >>27295125 >>27295293

>>27294968
>>27294989
go cry along with your oshi's literally inflated ccv HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:00:35 No.27295094 Report

Quoted By:

>>27295019
Her password was probably Nun-Nun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:00:58 No.27295105 Report

Quoted By:

>>27295015
Gura's member stream after that also helps to calm the chumbuds.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:01:37 No.27295125 Report

Quoted By: >>27295221

>>27295092
>inflated
lmaooooo, just watched that gura shit for 30 seconds right now and gave it a view

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:01:46 No.27295130 Report

Quoted By:

>>27294091
I like that feature a lot, I'm surprised people start/rewind to Kiara and not Guras solo song.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:02:42 No.27295161 Report

Quoted By:

>>27295015
because anyone with a brain knew gura went to sleep and mori did her stream and then either talked with her sister or also went to bed

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:03:33 No.27295182 Report

Quoted By:

>>27295015
The holo girls have been trained to not exacerbate anything negative coming from social media or even outright ignoring it and that is the proper way of handling it, if it becomes bigger than it should be then having a well thought out neutral "corporate" response is the way to go.
Though being a menhera doesn't help.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:03:45 No.27295190 Report

Quoted By: >>27295233 >>27295269 >>27295344

I only use the metric that suits my narrative in that specific situation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:03:49 No.27295193 Report

Quoted By:

>>27295019
glad that account is in management hand, not on her phone

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:04:34 No.27295221 Report

Quoted By: >>27295259

>>27295125
you do know that i can do that too to your oshi's vods right? your argument is fucking pathetic

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:04:46 No.27295232 Report

Quoted By:

>>27295015
I mean part of it was just
>Mori being retarded, yet again
I don't think anybody, even the shitposters, unironically thought it was malicious so it was going to die down anyways after people told her off for it in the comments. I don't think it helped her in terms of the number of people who don't like her but that's not anything new.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:04:46 No.27295233 Report

Quoted By:

>>27295190
based

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:04:57 No.27295239 Report

Quoted By: >>27295263 >>27295276 >>27295300 >>27295311 >>27295368

>>27294843
Didn't lap+ get this CCV? which one is correct?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:05:48 No.27295259 Report

Quoted By:

>>27295221
anon? you're literally admitting that vods are inflated with that

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:05:53 No.27295263 Report

Quoted By:

>>27295239
Stream had a Z spike

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:05:59 No.27295269 Report

Quoted By:

>>27295190
based

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:06:03 No.27295272 Report

Quoted By: >>27295370 >>27295389

>>27295073
Literally none of these are even relevant outside an even stream dude. And algorithm push? VODs are the ones who get stuck in the algo the most, Susan's bootleg streaming site barely knows how to push streams. How do you know a live viewer is *watching* or *listening*? This is how you sound: you take the worst possible case for VODs and the best for CCV, where oh If someone counts towards peak CCV he's an engaged viewer.
By this logic it's actually chat rate that is the supreme metric, that shows engagement after all, it proves people are *actively* engaging with the stream.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:06:06 No.27295276 Report

Quoted By:

>>27295239
The one with the highest numbers of course.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:06:35 No.27295293 Report

Quoted By:

>>27295092
has a problem in life bro?
you can visit /b/ and post nude there, it will make you better, but not become a better person though

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:06:45 No.27295300 Report

Quoted By:

>>27295239
That was part of the huge ass Z no?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:07:05 No.27295311 Report

Quoted By:

>>27295239
Z spike for Lap, but she had the highest Holox 3d anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:07:30 No.27295328 Report

Quoted By: >>27295374 >>27296314

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UV8OZj2olg
2k away from 10M, someone keep track of it, I'll be busy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:08:00 No.27295344 Report

Quoted By: >>27295358

>>27295190
CCVfags in a nutshell

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:08:31 No.27295358 Report

Quoted By:

>>27295344
lmao, bet all the vodfags here were celebrating that day gura won gold lmaooooooooooooo

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:08:41 No.27295367 Report

Quoted By:

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:08:43 No.27295368 Report

Quoted By:

>>27295239
people ignore Z for holo and count them for niji, didn't you know?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:08:49 No.27295370 Report

Quoted By: >>27295403 >>27295469

>>27295272
Because VoD Watchers at best can't even approach the baseline level of engagement that CCV represents. The worst case scenario for VoD views is their normal, the best case is the normal for CCV. You're a dumbass if you think VoD watchers can even be trusted to watch a whole stream

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:08:59 No.27295374 Report

Quoted By: >>27295476

>>27295328
VOD cope, VODs are worthless, what was the premiere CCV

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:09:27 No.27295389 Report

Quoted By: >>27295542

>>27295272
I saw a twitch stream like a month ago, they had a feature where they marked every person in chat whether they were tabbed out, muted, etc.
just thought it was interesting to note.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:10:02 No.27295403 Report

Quoted By: >>27295448 >>27295491

>>27295370
>You're a dumbass if you think VoD watchers can even be trusted to watch a whole stream
Who even said that? What makes someone who was part of the peak CCV count someone who watched the whole stream? How many times have we seen CCV go down past a certain point? Do you even know what viewer churn is?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:11:45 No.27295448 Report

Quoted By: >>27295481 >>27295498

>>27295403
at least we know they were there, for all we know, 80% of the vod views from gura are people that watch the first 2 minutes and fuck off

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:11:50 No.27295450 Report

Quoted By:

>>27293631
Zero.
There's two groups pushing it.
1. VShojofags and Nijiniggers who would see her joining a 'rival' corpo as a 'win' against Hololive.
2. Canadian zhangs who can use it as an excuse to call her a whore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:11:58 No.27295456 Report

Quoted By:

>still replying to the reddit spacing retard
roru

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:12:37 No.27295469 Report

Quoted By:

>>27295370
Anon why the fuck do you think CCV means someone is constantly watching a full stream?

Let me paint you a simple picture: 1k average CCV stream ends up with like, 20k VOD right after it ends.

What does this mean? It sure as shit means that it wasn't just 1000 ultra loyal viewers wathcing throughout. It means some left, new ones came in.

Bonus: Youtube put a system to track this in for some reason and tied it to their bread and butter, views, the think everyone has been numberfagging forever on the fucking site. Gee, I wonder why? Why doesn't YT just have a "this had x amount of CCV" tab + start the VOD "views" from 0 after the stream ends? Could it be this metric counts a lot ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:12:54 No.27295476 Report

Quoted By:

>>27295374
and now he false flagging lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:13:07 No.27295481 Report

Quoted By: >>27295496

>>27295448
>watch the first 2 minutes and fuck off
You can literally say the same thing for live viewers

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:13:26 No.27295491 Report

Quoted By: >>27295558

>>27295403
Anon, use basic fucking logic. You look at the CCV number, it says 10k. If you have 10k CCV for 1 hour, then you have 10k watch hours. It doesn't fucking matter if you have viewer churn, because you retain the same CCV, so same watch hours, but Stream Watchers are more likely to stay engaged than VoD watchers in any case due to the nature of the content.

In the consideration of viewer churn, you realize that inflates VoD views right? Assuming churn of 100% every 15 minutes, that means a 100k CCV stream that lasted 1 hour will have 400 VoD views when processing is finished, literally inflated viewcount

Just, worthless numbers, stop with the VoDcope

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:13:28 No.27295492 Report

Quoted By: >>27295722 >>27295723 >>27295748 >>27295934 >>27295959 >>27296292

Here its really fucking easy to disprove this rrat that Noor is head of anything.
https://www.anycolor.co.jp/en/news/29-lmr7-o1
Mr. Y.F.: Head of Overseas Business Operations
Mr. S.O.: Leader, Overseas Talent Manager
These two are in charge.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:13:34 No.27295496 Report

Quoted By: >>27295566

>>27295481
but we can see them, is the thing

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:13:38 No.27295498 Report

Quoted By: >>27295533

>>27295448
>source: trust me bro

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:13:58 No.27295511 Report

Quoted By:

>>27294126
I could guess that this was how they were doing it, but did they ever make a public comment on it?
or was it on Discord or smth?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:14:02 No.27295514 Report

Quoted By:

>>27293631
Imploding her community to which she explicitly said she'll never join another corpo too. But no one here watches Kson so the retarded "she's joining vshojo!" bait keeps going, despite her collabing like 3 times with those bitches. I guess "she's joining VOMs" isn't as popular because she sure as fuck has been collabing with them more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:14:35 No.27295533 Report

Quoted By: >>27295624

>>27295498
same value of vodfags arguments

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:14:45 No.27295538 Report

Quoted By:

>>27294843

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:14:52 No.27295542 Report

Quoted By:

>>27295389
This is a better way to do it, just have certain attributes to certain viewer behaviors but overall count how many viewers there are and not how youtube does it right now.
For me at least, I'm not going to be fully tuning in an ASMR stream looking at a somewhat stagnant video, I have it tabbed out and listen to it while doing some other stuff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:15:30 No.27295558 Report

Quoted By:

>>27295491
>stop using the nr 1 youtube metric
No, stop fucking bending your brain to discounting the one thing everyone numberfags on youtube. I swear this must be Gura's fight right? No other place for any other reason could unironically go on tirades about how views don't matter on youtube.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:15:38 No.27295566 Report

Quoted By: >>27295607

>>27295496
The fucking number, the view, is what is saying thay vod watchers were there too

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:15:45 No.27295570 Report

Quoted By:

i'm gonna fucking cum all over vodfags
*unzips processor*

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:15:59 No.27295576 Report

Quoted By:

>>27295019
> TikTok
no prizes for guessing who's behind this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:16:29 No.27295593 Report

Quoted By:

>>27294116
That's okay, IDR used to be shittier than current ARS or TRY. Indonesia nearly collapsed when the crisis hit in 1997.

The zeros have no meaning anymore other than the embarrassment that it looks like a shit currency, while actually it's not, because the economy has been very stable since the crisis.

The govt wanted to cut the last 3 digits but then the pandemic arrived.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:16:58 No.27295607 Report

Quoted By: >>27295648

>>27295566
They were there for all of 30 seconds. That's all a view counts for.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:17:32 No.27295620 Report

Quoted By:

I swear people have been throwing the same arguments at each other for like 4 hours

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:17:34 No.27295624 Report

Quoted By: >>27295652

>>27295533
we have a proof here that ccv can be easily manipulated than vod views, see >>27290279
while you're just claiming shit out of your ass

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:17:40 No.27295630 Report

Quoted By:

Wait wait i thought this vod cope bitch is just another nigger timelooping strategies, but how the fuck this one last almost 2 threads ? Ass blasted cumbuds is scary

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:18:05 No.27295641 Report

Quoted By: >>27295688

this VoD cope....not to promote or creating buzzword "big VoD view count is good" to investors right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:18:14 No.27295648 Report

Quoted By: >>27295678 >>27295765

>>27295607
Literally do you have any proof of that? Again, why are you assuming this. Do you think this is how all youtube videos work? No one actually has high views on youtube, they're all just a bunch of people yoinking a view for 30 seconds before viewers click to something else for 30 seconds?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:18:35 No.27295652 Report

Quoted By:

>>27295624
>these seatbelts broke during accidents so we're removing seatbelts from cars

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:18:59 No.27295663 Report

Quoted By:

>anons ITT

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:19:24 No.27295678 Report

Quoted By:

>>27295648
I think you're trying to explain to the audience, but if not, I hope you realize he's not arguing in good faith.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:19:32 No.27295685 Report

Quoted By: >>27295719 >>27295725

manipulating vod view using bot if easier and much cheaper than using bot for watching live delivery

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:19:34 No.27295688 Report

Quoted By: >>27295715

>>27295641
Retard, VODs are already how cover promotes their talent to sponsors. A view is a view and that's not gonna change no matter how hard it makes people seethe that Gura does well in this metric but only like, 8th in vtubing CCV.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:20:41 No.27295715 Report

Quoted By:

>>27295688
wooo easy Noor i just asking

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:20:51 No.27295718 Report

Quoted By:

You guys never learn do you?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:20:51 No.27295719 Report

Quoted By:

>>27295685
is it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:20:59 No.27295722 Report

Quoted By:

>>27295492
Retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:20:59 No.27295723 Report

Quoted By:

>>27295492
Mr. Y.F.: Head of Overseas Business Operations
Joined ANYCOLOR in 2018. After working for the VTuber business in Japan, he became in charge of the entire overseas operations.
Prior to joining the company, he had established several businesses himself, mainly in the distribution and education industry.

Mr. S.O.: Leader, Overseas Talent Manager
After graduating from a university in Indonesia, he supported corporate clients to set up operations in Indonesia while providing interpretation services at a consulting firm.
Later, he was engaged in the management of pop culture events centered on cosplay to realize his aspiration of " being Japanese and doing what I love for a living". He joined ANYCOLOR in 2019 because he found great potential in cross-border content for VTubers, which had just emerged at the time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:21:02 No.27295725 Report

Quoted By: >>27295760

>>27295685
And? That's just a random info tidbit you're throwing around. Come up with some accusations and evidence: who's VODs are being manipulated, why, and does this mean that we can't trust anything but livestreams on youtube? They are the minority there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:21:44 No.27295748 Report

Quoted By: >>27295789

>>27295492
Thanks for letting us know that Noor is still a part of Anycolor staff, her rm is kinda hot, do you have her number?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:21:46 No.27295750 Report

Quoted By:

It's really simple: If you care about VOD views for streamers, you're coping

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:22:01 No.27295760 Report

Quoted By:

>>27295725
kpop mv using that and not a secret

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:22:04 No.27295764 Report

Quoted By: >>27295806

we need more niji nendos after vox

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:22:06 No.27295765 Report

Quoted By: >>27295801

>>27295648
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0nQRtY-IB8
>250k Views
VS
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvKNqR4RiGM
>135k views

Oh no no no, how could Watame recline like this??

This is what you sound like when you VoD cope, idiot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:23:05 No.27295789 Report

Quoted By:

>>27295748
i just copy and pasted what i asw on /njien/
its indog

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:23:28 No.27295800 Report

Quoted By:

Just let him samefag until he gets tired.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:23:29 No.27295801 Report

Quoted By: >>27295834 >>27295870

>>27295765
I'm not even gonna deign your retardation with an answer. At no point did you even engage in good faith or provide an argument here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:23:33 No.27295806 Report

Quoted By:

>>27295764
rikiichi

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:24:37 No.27295834 Report

Quoted By:

>>27295801

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:24:42 No.27295837 Report

Quoted By:

Reminder that Susan has been fucking with all the numbers since 2020 December and since you don't even have accurate data and proper analysis for your statements all of your discussion and talks are useless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:24:52 No.27295843 Report

Quoted By:

If (you) don't stop timelooping this fucking shit I'll rape (you) anon

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:25:16 No.27295857 Report

Quoted By: >>27295926 >>27296070 >>27296076 >>27296894

Alright, since the CCV vs VOD timeloop is happening again, let's just restate the reasons why we use CCV instead of VODs -

1. Live Horseracing is half the reason for CCV use, as peak CCV is akin to a sports game, which is also the reason why we don't use averages.
2. VOD comparisons have way too many variables affecting it, like -
> VOD length.
> Audience spread (JP focussed vs Global).
> Clippability.
> Algorithm shenanigans.
For comparing VODs to make sense, you'd need to factor in every single one of these metrics, and ALSO have a proper cutoff for comparison (i.e. 24-48 hours after Stream end).
This also doesn't account for VODs like Gura's Duolingo which go viral months after they occur.
But really the main reason why we don't use VODs is that there's no site that tracks them in a handy way with a proper cutoff, while for CCV there's Vstats, Vrabi, Live-ranking and many others.
3. Watching for 30s counts as '1 view' for a VOD. This is why "VOD length * views = WATCH TIME!" is a retarded metric, as it assumes that everyone who watched 30s of the VOD and then fucked off, actually watched the ENTIRE fucking thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:25:37 No.27295870 Report

Quoted By: >>27295924 >>27296117

>>27295801
The argument has already been made you fucking idiot. Views are not equivalent to CCV for streams. They simply don't have as much value, what is so fucking hard to understand about this

1 million VoD views is worth as much as dirt compared to even 5k CCV.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:27:44 No.27295924 Report

Quoted By: >>27295946

>>27295870
>source: it was on my dream bro

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:27:48 No.27295926 Report

Quoted By: >>27296053

>>27295857
Your copypasta does not end the argument ,why even bother?
Lots of
>We
>WE AGREED
>ITS WHAT I SAY
Clearly not, I assure you it isn't newfags repeating the same loop over and over.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:28:15 No.27295934 Report

Quoted By: >>27295981 >>27296196

>>27295492
>https://www.linkedin.com/in/shagufta-ali-562aa7153/

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:28:34 No.27295946 Report

Quoted By: >>27295974 >>27296026

>>27295924
So you're saying that Watame's shorts are superior to her streams in objective metrics? Since they have more views after all, and that's what matters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:29:11 No.27295959 Report

Quoted By: >>27296094 >>27296130

>>27295492
It's ironic. That Mr. SO believes that vtubers have potential cross border based on his experience in Indonesia. He was right that Indonesia can be a big market for vtubers, but it's ironic that his company failed to do that and the rival company is the one that succeeded. Not only in Indonesia but also internationally (EN).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:29:32 No.27295974 Report

Quoted By: >>27296062

>>27295946
No you moron, they're two completely different types of content. At no point did anyone discuss shorts, you brought it up thinking it was le ebin own. This has and always will be a discussion about stream VODs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:29:52 No.27295981 Report

Quoted By:

>>27295934
I'D FUCK HER GOOD AND NOOR

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:31:38 No.27296026 Report

Quoted By: >>27296062

>>27295946
>comparing shorts with vods
anon wtf is wrong with you? LMFAO it's literally normal thing for shorts to get gigantic views as it was "short" and loopable along with algorithm

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:32:46 No.27296053 Report

Quoted By:

>>27295926
> not newfags
why do you think they're called timeloops anon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:33:06 No.27296062 Report

Quoted By: >>27296169

>>27295974
>>27296026
THERE'S NO FUCKING DIFFERENCE

Oh my fucking god you people are stupid. A fucking short view is worth the same amount as a fucking VoD view on a stream. You can't prove otherwise because there is simply no way to identify how much a VoD viewer watches. Even a VoD watcher who looks at the entire video is worth the same amount as 1 CCV, at best they're equivalent to a live watcher but most of the time they will be someone who watches at most 5 minutes. VoD views are the same no matter what the content is

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:33:13 No.27296066 Report

Quoted By:

giri giri warukunai watame

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:33:22 No.27296070 Report

Quoted By: >>27296087 >>27296135

>>27295857
I'm not sure why you assume people want to replace the CCV horserace with a VOD horserace. The problem is simply that comparing and talking about CCV is accepted by the thread (and rightly so) while some "people" lose their minds and start screeching and throwing shit the moment any VOD discussion or comparison takes place.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:33:38 No.27296076 Report

Quoted By:

>>27295857
Also how tf we use daily tally if vod processing take long time

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:33:49 No.27296080 Report

Quoted By: >>27296133

>>27291551
>Having 10k CCV > having 100k VoD views.
Not on Youtube

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:33:59 No.27296087 Report

Quoted By:

>>27296070
>any VOD discussion or comparison takes place.
because they make no sense and are pure cope and timeloop material

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:34:24 No.27296094 Report

Quoted By: >>27296474

>>27295959
Worst part is they completely squandered a talent with one the best chances at a global breakout there. Fuck me I don't know how he hasn't roped yet after that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:34:48 No.27296101 Report

Quoted By: >>27296140 >>27296696

For all those people who regularly ask the question "what the fuck do these managers even do" this makes for a good read.
>The most common task is to respond to questions and requests from the Livers whom I manage.
>Our communications range from confirming the material for streaming, assigning talent for projects/events and witnessing these events, proposing improvements to increase the response to the videos, to maintaining manuals.
>Other tasks include planning include contents and events, planning, as well as coordinating with related parties in the sale of merchandise.
>I would say I act as an intermediary between the Livers and the company.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:35:19 No.27296117 Report

Quoted By: >>27296739 >>27296779 >>27296928

>>27295870
Ok then, let's imagine this, there's an apex stream with 1000 ccv. The game reaches the last ring and the ccv grows until 1500 ccv when the stream peaks. This happens in the span of minute. The game ends and the ccv goes back to 1000.
Those 500 viewers count for the peak, even though they were only there for a minute. How is that more valuable than a view from a vod that as you say it only requieres 30 seconds?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:35:41 No.27296130 Report

Quoted By:

>>27295959
He guided vtubers to a treasure he could not possess

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:35:46 No.27296133 Report

Quoted By: >>27296315

>>27296080
Oh ho ho ho but if your viewers have Youtube Premium then you'd be swimming in some buckeroonis

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:35:51 No.27296135 Report

Quoted By:

>>27296070
People 'lose their mind' because 90% VOD comparisons inevitably end up bringing CCV into the comparison.
Like 'omg look at these VODs, haha your big CCV doesn't matter' or something along those lines.
Or something like 'haha your big CCV stream didn't get as many VODs as this small CCV stream'.

VODs alone are a good metric if they're properly compared.
But only a very few people in the thread do that (and they're mostly positively received) while the majority of them are just shitposting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:36:15 No.27296140 Report

Quoted By:

>>27296101
I mean, we know what they're supposed to do, they just apparently don't fucking do it half of the time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:36:47 No.27296156 Report

Quoted By: >>27296184 >>27296210 >>27296230 >>27296323

what is CCV?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:37:14 No.27296169 Report

Quoted By: >>27296255

>>27296062
yeah yeah and ask YT and TikTok why they only gives pennies for millions of views for shorts while for vod contents it'd be worth multiple times a lot more

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:37:47 No.27296184 Report

Quoted By:

>>27296156
Cute Cunny Views

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:38:22 No.27296196 Report

Quoted By: >>27296292

>>27295934
>https://www.linkedin.com/in/madhu-gudi-30138a48/

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:39:04 No.27296210 Report

Quoted By:

>>27296156
Isn't this a line from Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet play?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:39:04 No.27296211 Report

Quoted By:

Lol sora tiktok got hacked.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:39:41 No.27296230 Report

Quoted By:

>>27296156
cee cee vee

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:40:52 No.27296255 Report

Quoted By: >>27296303

>>27296169
Because those people actually fucking watch the full video. People don't do that with Gura's streams, stop fucking coping already goddamn it

The only viewers who can be proven to actually watch a stream are CCV, which is why only CCV matters in this thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:40:55 No.27296257 Report

Quoted By:

>>27294843
Overdosing on copium

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:41:58 No.27296288 Report

Quoted By:

Is Ina art tag having 90k tweets in the last 24 hours a good thing?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:42:02 No.27296292 Report

Quoted By: >>27296403 >>27296929

>>27295492
>>27296196

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:42:29 No.27296303 Report

Quoted By: >>27296337 >>27296518

>>27296255
>People don't do that with Gura's streams
>source?
>j-just trust me bro!!!
you sounds so fucking retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:42:46 No.27296314 Report

Quoted By:

>>27295328
1.5k now. I think it's run out of steam though. Not gonna make it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:42:46 No.27296315 Report

Quoted By: >>27296365

>>27296133
This. And 10k concurrent viewers on average produce much more watch time than 100k vod viewers

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:42:56 No.27296323 Report

Quoted By: >>27296357 >>27296407

>>27296156
If, for some godawful reason you AREN'T baiting and are instead an actual, complete newfag who for some reason can't google for SHIT.
ConCurrent Viewership (aka, how many people are watching AT a given point in time, live)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:43:23 No.27296337 Report

Quoted By: >>27296378

>>27296303
there's proof retard, her fucking ccv

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:43:23 No.27296339 Report

Quoted By: >>27296360

EVERY NUMBER MATTERS

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:44:18 No.27296357 Report

Quoted By: >>27296447

>>27296323
>aren't baiting
>in this thread
Anon...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:44:24 No.27296360 Report

Quoted By:

>>27296339
no they don't, mine matter more

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:44:34 No.27296365 Report

Quoted By: >>27296473

>>27296315
Claims, but unless you yourself stream and have access to some sort of data via YT analytics to back up your claims...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:45:06 No.27296378 Report

Quoted By: >>27296402

>>27296337
that's not a valid proof, you troglodyte.
that's more of a proof of her streams getting fucking culled to hell

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:45:51 No.27296402 Report

Quoted By: >>27296491 >>27296565

>>27296378
>culled
ah yes, the conspiracy theory that youtube hates holoen in particular and not a single other streamer

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:45:51 No.27296403 Report

Quoted By:

>>27296292
>Look at Cover staff too
>Seeing Cover hire some project manager from ID
>She's actually a singer
That's interesting actually

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:45:57 No.27296407 Report

Quoted By: >>27296447

>>27296323
you are good person, this is not your place

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:46:03 No.27296413 Report

Quoted By:

f-fellow nijbros status?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:46:40 No.27296427 Report

Quoted By: >>27296485

Well, If it’s time for school yard time loops, here goes one
>me and my dad can totally beat you and your dad in a fistfight!
ANON DAD BTFO!

>Ayamy bait unrelated

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:47:00 No.27296440 Report

Quoted By: >>27296456 >>27296470 >>27296481 >>27296648

>matsuri couldn't make it after all
buff or debuff?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:47:05 No.27296445 Report

Quoted By: >>27296523 >>27296527 >>27296631

Can anybody explain why this timeloop even started in the first place, it's been a while since the last one

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:47:06 No.27296447 Report

Quoted By:

>>27296407
>>27296357
It is my one good deed before I go back to shitting on specific schizos I despise.
Can't be foul all the time after all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:47:37 No.27296456 Report

Quoted By:

>>27296440
Huge buff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:47:57 No.27296470 Report

Quoted By:

>>27296440
since Ollie and Kobo will be talking in indo, it'll probably be a buff

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:48:03 No.27296473 Report

Quoted By:

>>27296365
https://youtu.be/NLO5-IyS5pE

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:48:06 No.27296474 Report

Quoted By: >>27296523 >>27297015

>>27296094
He cries a lot too, apparently. Poor guy must have had a day when ID folded into the main branch

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:48:21 No.27296481 Report

Quoted By:

>>27296440
ollie debuff

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:48:37 No.27296485 Report

Quoted By: >>27296542

>>27296427
Were you able to watch that Ayamy stream anon? Was it worth the mengen?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:48:49 No.27296491 Report

Quoted By:

>>27296402
>conspiracy theory
that's every of your random shit you're claiming LMAO

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:49:37 No.27296518 Report

Quoted By: >>27296625

>>27296303
It's real fucking simple you idiot. If Gura has 60k CCV, and Pekora has 65k CCV, then Pekora has more and better viewers than Gura no matter how many funny numbers Gura has on her VoDs a week later. This is because CCV are viewers who are confirmed to have watched the stream as it was airing, meaning we can take the average of that number and multiply it by stream length to see the actual Watch Time, or take the peak and see the number initial views which again, can be assumed to have actually engaged to a higher standard than the minimum VoD watchers do.

VoD watchers can only be assumed to have clicked on a VoD, watched for 30 seconds, and clicked off. You can't prove that's not what's happening, so that's what you must assume those views are worth, otherwise you are just coping.

CCV > VoD Viewers

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:49:51 No.27296523 Report

Quoted By: >>27296549 >>27296663 >>27296693

>>27296445
>implying the timeloop is natural and not an entirely artificial one
>>27296474
>He cries a lot too, apparently.
Christ I wish I could get a timelapse of his mental state as Hana started filtering the EOPs hard. Why did she even do it?

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:50:07 No.27296527 Report

Quoted By: >>27296561 >>27296577 >>27296632

>>27296445
This chart has the power to drive people insane, it gets posted at the start of every month and every month people just lose their shit over this. It's honestly the best chart in the entire thread just for that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:50:40 No.27296542 Report

Quoted By:

>>27296485
Nah, decided against membering just for that one stream.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:50:51 No.27296549 Report

Quoted By:

>>27296523
Menheras gonna menhera anon.
You're asking for logic where emotion reigns supreme.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:50:51 No.27296551 Report

Quoted By: >>27296646

Marine Holocure

https://youtu.be/nGqtJYqVgu8

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:51:09 No.27296561 Report

Quoted By:

>>27296527
ah fuck, it's the fucking cope chart, should've known, we have at least 3 days of this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:51:11 No.27296563 Report

Quoted By: >>27296593 >>27296724

Rurudo in the 4k range playing mahjong soul. Is this good number for a holo mama?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:51:20 No.27296565 Report

Quoted By:

>>27296402
>YouTube hates holoen and only them
you're wrong, this applies to literally every EN flesh streamers on YT as well.
they getting less ccv but high vod views

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:51:38 No.27296577 Report

Quoted By:

>>27296527
I don't understand how to read this chart, why are there more names every month?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:52:11 No.27296593 Report

Quoted By: >>27296633

>>27296563
rape mogs her

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:53:34 No.27296625 Report

Quoted By: >>27296688

>>27296518
>If a live viewer watches for 30 seconds it counts
>If a vod watcher does it for 30 seconds it doesn't count

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:53:39 No.27296631 Report

Quoted By:

>>27296445
newfags not understanding that VOD views don't always correlate to CCV.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:53:39 No.27296632 Report

Quoted By:

>>27296527
It's the worst chart we've ever witnessed because it's fucking worthless data

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:53:41 No.27296633 Report

Quoted By: >>27296672 >>27296679 >>27296816

>>27296593
Ok but how does she compare to the other mamas?
Pochi sensei?
Nabi mama?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:54:11 No.27296646 Report

Quoted By:

>>27296551
megabuff

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:54:16 No.27296648 Report

Quoted By:

>>27296440
>The matsuri still doesn't work
kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:54:56 No.27296663 Report

Quoted By:

>>27296523
It's more like he's easily moved to tears than a crybaby, but I'd still pay to be the fly on his wall

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:55:12 No.27296672 Report

Quoted By:

>>27296633
Cunny > hag

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:55:22 No.27296676 Report

Quoted By: >>27296801

We don’t actually care about VOD view and CCV. It’s just another flavor of EN vs JP

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:55:25 No.27296679 Report

Quoted By: >>27296816

>>27296633
worse than nacho, better than ayamy, pochi or nabi

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:55:43 No.27296688 Report

Quoted By: >>27296733 >>27296739 >>27296750 >>27296786

>>27296625
HOW DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THAT CCV DECRESES IF PEOPLE LEAVE?!

THEY LITERALLY DO NOT COUNT IF THEY FUCK OFF AFTER 30 SECONDS

I'm gonna have a stroke, I'm so mad and you're so fucking dumb

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:55:54 No.27296693 Report

Quoted By: >>27297077

>>27296523
>as Hana started filtering the EOP
All the way back I only knew four chuubas
>Haachama, which roped me in with QWOP, goat simulator and being scared on Minecraft
>Aqua, because of all the clips of her being a retarded gaming maid
>Hana Macchia, because she spoke English
Then Hana dropped completely off my radar, Azur Lane collab happened and I was surprised with the fact Aqua was in some sort of company with lots of other vtubers including Haachama

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:55:57 No.27296696 Report

Quoted By: >>27296741 >>27296797

>>27296101
>Livers

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:56:54 No.27296724 Report

Quoted By:

>>27296563
Yes. For reference Ayamy is a 3 views

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:57:07 No.27296733 Report

Quoted By:

>>27296688
No no, see two can play your retard game.
The CCV guys are actually looping around every 30 seconds between 5 batches. A viewer stays 30 seconds, leaves, then another one comes in and takes his place in the CCV counter. They keep doing that over and over again. Enjoy your stroke :*)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:57:07 No.27296734 Report

Quoted By: >>27296794 >>27296864 >>27296896

In a funny twist of events, Pekkers will stream micra before Shuba BDay:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYJxlrtrWsk

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:57:20 No.27296739 Report

Quoted By:

>>27296688
Explain this >>27296117 to me then

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:57:27 No.27296741 Report

Quoted By:

>>27296696
yes anon that post was about Nijisanji

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:57:49 No.27296750 Report

Quoted By:

>>27296688
wake up, stop bite the bait, that make you looks like retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:58:42 No.27296772 Report

Quoted By:

the existence of the cope chart has been a disaster for /#/ discussion
it makes for funny shit tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:58:53 No.27296779 Report

Quoted By: >>27296884

>>27296117
because 1 min it's more than 30 sec anon....

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:59:04 No.27296786 Report

Quoted By:

>>27296688
>I'm gonna have a stroke
if only

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:59:23 No.27296794 Report

Quoted By: >>27297034

>>27296734
Oh hey she’s not trying to take funnel from event for once
But not like the 3rd MC stream will have much to funnel

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:59:24 No.27296797 Report

Quoted By: >>27296826

>>27296696
It's interesting they have managers dedicated solely to managing their talents' livers. The niji competitive edge

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:59:32 No.27296801 Report

Quoted By:

>>27296676
A baffling one. Gura and Kobo are prety much the only anomalies, every other big name JP has big VODs to go along with their big CCV.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 07:59:56 No.27296816 Report

Quoted By: >>27296843

>>27296633
R
A
P
E
practically mogs every Holomama. If she were a Holo she'd be like a solid mid-tier Holo.
>>27296679
>worse than nacho
Huh? Nacho is not getting 10k+ per stream, Ui can regularly get that much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 08:00:11 No.27296826 Report

Quoted By:

>>27296797
In Japan that would be very important. Have you seen their nomikais?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 08:00:34 No.27296843 Report

Quoted By: >>27296862

>>27296816
he asked about rurudo anon, nacho hits 6ks sometimes

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 08:01:23 No.27296862 Report

Quoted By:

>>27296843
Disregard my retardation

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 08:01:24 No.27296864 Report

Quoted By:

>>27296734
if she reschedule it, i'll invade a land, name it Pekoland and crown Pekora as Number Queen

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 08:02:04 No.27296884 Report

Quoted By: >>27296991

>>27296779
Not the 500 viewers watched for a minute. The last to join for the peak, let's say 10 viewers were there for 10 seconds but they still count for the peak. How is that any different from a 30 seconds view from a vod?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 08:02:21 No.27296891 Report

Quoted By: >>27296971 >>27296976

Why are two anons sperging about VoD vs CCV? My two cents is that VoD is for the horse race and gauge popularity/fans and VoD for music videos and music in general. That's it.
CCV easy to measure for daily tally.
VoD impossible to track for gazillion of streams so it only matters for music to know which song is doing better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 08:02:29 No.27296894 Report

Quoted By: >>27296959 >>27296992

>>27295857
>Gura's Duolingo
what's the deal with this one anyway, why is it so popular?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 08:02:30 No.27296896 Report

Quoted By: >>27296978

>>27296734
maybe she making a gift for subaru in MC like she do to Moona before

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 08:03:52 No.27296928 Report

Quoted By: >>27296991

>>27296117
This is a solved problem, just use the average CCV instead of Peaks. Those viewers are tabbed out, and they tab back in as the game goes on, they're still watching but they don't count because the Youtube system culls multitabs. They're still listening though, so they're still worth more than shorts viewers

Also, in your example, 1000 CCV remains stable. Those people can be treated as 'confirmed viewers' a floor for the level of engagement that stream has. There may be more actual people there who are likewise culled, but there aren't going to be less than 1000, which is good enough data, much better than VoD views tells us

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 08:03:53 No.27296929 Report

Quoted By:

>>27296292
so... staff, anon

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 08:04:13 No.27296939 Report

Quoted By:

>Jun’s Gang acting as uncompensated janitorial staff, reporting posts and threads to reddit mods and getting them deleted just to stick a pin on nijibeggar eyes
I have to say that gave me a hearty belly laugh, thanks Jun’s Gang!
How many times that happened now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 08:04:57 No.27296959 Report

Quoted By: >>27297004

>>27296894
Japs love same-chan and this is pretty much one of the few streams videos they can fully consume from her. It also got mentioned on tv during the Sora interview, so people watch it, youtube goes "huh a popular video" and recommends it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 08:05:15 No.27296970 Report

Quoted By:

Anykara should activate economic levers and gazump pekora from cover.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 08:05:15 No.27296971 Report

Quoted By:

>>27296891
>VoD is for the horse race and gauge popularity/fans and VoD for music videos and music in general.
This is your brain in VoD cope

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 08:05:19 No.27296976 Report

Quoted By:

>>27296891
it's called Vod Cope because it is give a safety blanket for whoever lose to ccv

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 08:05:21 No.27296978 Report

Quoted By: >>27297030

>>27296896
That’s a bit too close to home. What can she even do in 1 hour?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 08:05:57 No.27296991 Report

Quoted By:

>>27296884
see >>27296928

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 08:05:58 No.27296992 Report

Quoted By:

>>27296894
It took over the algo and never fucking let go. I just got redirected to that VOD after Mumei's stream a few hours ago.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 08:06:20 No.27297004 Report

Quoted By: >>27297094

>>27296959
they love her, but sure they will wait for the clip only

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 08:06:47 No.27297015 Report

Quoted By:

>>27296474
who the fuck are you talking about? I never have seen any of the ID boys crying

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 08:07:22 No.27297030 Report

Quoted By: >>27297055

>>27296978
trap house

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 08:07:28 No.27297034 Report

Quoted By:

>>27296794
because Marine already took it she need to reschedule

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 08:07:57 No.27297055 Report

Quoted By: >>27297095

>>27297030
no anon you can't say that

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 08:08:42 No.27297077 Report

Quoted By:

>>27296693
what happened to the fourth chuuba?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 08:09:29 No.27297094 Report

Quoted By:

>>27297004
Yeah, for most streams, where they can't understand shit. This one is 50% jap, its consumable by them. Like how Korone's Mario English stream was very popular.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 02 Jul 2022 08:09:30 No.27297095 Report

Quoted By:

>>27297055
fuck, am i going to get cancelled?

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