I just want to be clear about a few of these points as someone who has been watching Vtubers since Gamers debuted and has been around to see the facts as they happened. I'm trying to keep this as non-hostile as possible so I'd appreciate if you did the same so that we can have a genuine discussion.
>>>28132742>summer/bikini outfitsHololive stopped this because an influx of antis kept mass reporting the streams and getting them taken down. Yes, I'm aware that Susan has kept up sketchier shit, but that's because she's an inconsistent bitch. It has nothing to do with Cover having problems with them "tarnishing their image" or whatever. There are plenty of risque outfits that have debuted since they stopped. Though none of them come close to kson's latest bikini. If that stream stays up then it could be used as a sign that Susan is calming the fuck down, because I'm sure many are reporting it out of spite.
>playing games without the need for corpo permission due to the way Vshojo makes moneyThis is straight up a legal matter. One that I can all but guarantee Vshojo WILL have to deal with in the future. They can't just keep claiming "Lol we are American so your Japanese laws don't apply." Now some of those talents conveniently live in the same country. Japanese publishers can and will target those talents directly with lawsuits if they have to. When you have a business presence in a country, especially with feet on the ground, you have to abide by their laws even if they are absurdly draconian. I fucking hate permissions, but this is just a reality of being big in the business. Publishers take notice of you and slap your shit if you don't abide their rules.
>>28133230>the ability to actually own everything they makeThat's because they are a talent agency. They hire talents that are already reasonably large and take a cut of their profits while promising to help them achieve greater success. This business model has been around for over a hundred years and isn't anything groundbreaking. Mileage may vary on how useful they are but they generally range from bottom tier leeches to vaguely worth it. They generally do not help people just getting started in an industry, in this case the 1 and 2views.
>like really guys, all cover has to do is say "You die tonight" and any holo girl looses everything they have made since their starting in hololive. All Vshojo can do is kick them out, the talents hold their own IP.This argument is facetious. Companies don't actively work against their best interests and their best interest is to make money. They aren't going to fire people without just cause and just to be spiteful assholes. Talents make them money and audience trust is important for that. Let's not forget that Coco literally DID leave Cover. Did she lose everyone? No. They followed her. For that matter, Mike was, rightfully, terminated with extreme prejudice. Did she lose everything and have to start from scratch? No she has 850k subs right now. Indies don't start with that. Despite what people claim, there is almost nobody in the industry with an unknown past life. If they had one, people figure it out real quick.
As for keeping their IP; This is a complete apples and oranges thing. Vshojo doesn't provide you with IP and let them keep it. You bring your own model that you bought and paid for? Good for you, it's yours. Vshojo never had a claim to it in the first place. You don't have one and they have to provide you with it? I don't believe they are letting you keep it when you go. Another company tried providing models to talents and giving them ownership of them. That company was called Cyberlive. Notice the past tense? Their talents were poached, alongside the models. Cyberlive shut down all business activities and the few girls that stayed until the end rebranded as an indie group called Aetheria. The business model is not viable because people WILL just use your company as a stepping stone and leave the first chance someone bigger comes along. It's a nice dream but it does not work in reality.
