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/cure/ - HoloCure

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 00:38:51 No.33073432 View View Reply Original Report

Big Natural Tiddy edition

A thread for the Vampire survivors inspired Holo fan game

Link to download the game:
https://kay-yu.itch.io/holocure

HoloCure Twitter: https://twitter.com/HoloCureGame

Assortment of information(e.g. unlocks etc.)
https://rentry.org/vehan

previous thread: >>33035931

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 00:41:27 No.33073613 Report

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>>33069629
At first I wasn't impressed by Frozen Sea either but it's better than the nerfed BL Fujoshi and it has the slow tho the reason it became a staple for me is because Wamy Water is just too good for the early to mid game.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 00:43:02 No.33073723 Report

Quoted By: >>33073927 >>33111683

My first run endless coin farming run, and I definitely could have done things better. Next time around I'm gonna save the holoboxes for after I max my last few weapons with anvils. I got around 25 anvil drops or so this run, so Credit Card definitely pays for itself. I went +2 enhances on her main weapon, X-Potato, and Frozen Sea, and +5 on Micomet which was just enough damage. I did have to move around a little bit at the 29m mark to not die though. No Golden Yagoo as well this run and only one triple holobox got me close to 70k.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 00:43:03 No.33073727 Report

Quoted By: >>33099540

The anon that was trying to beat the Mumei 73k+ run has any progress?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 00:43:48 No.33073777 Report

Quoted By: >>33073944 >>33075298

Collabs
>Pettan board
Power gap

>Micomet
>Frozen Sea
>Broken Dreams
>Elite Cooking
>Dragon Fire

Alright

>Fujoshi
>Idol Concert
>Breathe in Asacoco
>X Potato

Never use anything else

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 00:45:48 No.33073927 Report

Quoted By:

>>33073723
Forgot to mention that I'm only 7/10 upgrades on shop ATK, though that shouldn't really matter with Mumei's insane ATK stat due to her passives.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 00:46:06 No.33073944 Report

Quoted By: >>33075724 >>33089731 >>33094093

>>33073777
Characters based on strength ease of use

Stupid OP and I love them for it
Mumei
Roboco

Kinda easy to play at high level
Sana
Miko
Fauna
Susei
Cali

Good if you have a brain
Gura
Fubuki
Ina
Irys
Korone
Okayu
Kiara
Bae

Working for a living
Kronii
Azki
Mio
Ame
Sora

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 00:48:33 No.33074116 Report

Quoted By: >>33075285 >>33091330

Post ideas for super versions of passive items that don't already have them

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 01:03:02 No.33075094 Report

Quoted By:

I hope they fix Sora soon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 01:06:03 No.33075285 Report

Quoted By:

>>33074116
Something that could give you a form of crowcontrol, like a slow or stun. Probably just in a single level because otherwise it would be too good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 01:06:17 No.33075298 Report

Quoted By: >>33076338

>>33073777
Isn't Rap God better as a third/fourth collab than some of those given the debuff it gives you? Especially dragon fire which is directional.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 01:07:52 No.33075425 Report

Quoted By: >>33085498

God damn it's so tempting to grab all the boxes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 01:12:42 No.33075724 Report

Quoted By: >>33076338 >>33080281 >>33105569

>>33073944
I can't manage to play Roboco, I played her once and thought she was weak. Any tips?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 01:17:00 No.33075977 Report

Quoted By:

I think haste Mio is my second favorite to play after speed Foobs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 01:23:09 No.33076338 Report

Quoted By:

>>33075724
Get glasses her passives and as much Halu as you can handle and maybe Limiter so you can grab batteries easier even as Halu builds up. Level like mad then build your collabs to stay ahead of the damage curve

>>33075298
Thats why i listed it in the "Alright" section. im also wondering if the debuff stacks and if Bae can super-murder with it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 01:29:51 No.33076667 Report

Quoted By: >>33076813 >>33086138

micomet or elite cooking? I personally like elite cooking better unless I'm playing Suisei for the pettan bonus

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 01:33:04 No.33076813 Report

Quoted By: >>33076973

>>33076667
I usually use Haachama for Broken Dreams nowadays so Micomet. Both are still solid though

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 01:34:00 No.33076877 Report

Quoted By: >>33080401 >>33083462 >>33087144 >>33092315

I can't handle Stage 2 bros... I might need to turn in my gamer cred...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 01:35:48 No.33076973 Report

Quoted By: >>33077340 >>33077664

>>33076813
broken dream just doesn't seem that good to me along with frozen sea. someone please pitch to me why those two collabs are decent

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 01:36:10 No.33077000 Report

Quoted By:

Is no offensive items all characters for both stage 1 and 2 clear?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 01:38:48 No.33077148 Report

Quoted By:

Is there a limit on Roboco's piercing on her Awakened gun? For some reason I failed at 26 mins on the hard Forest even though my Fubuki run was fine at 22 mins

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 01:41:54 No.33077340 Report

Quoted By:

>>33076973
Its a matter of coverage to damage then tacking on slow is certainly nice as well

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 01:48:28 No.33077664 Report

Quoted By: >>33077767

>>33076973
frozen sea is ridicoulous, on level 2 no one even gets to enter your visible screen if you have any haste

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 01:50:05 No.33077767 Report

Quoted By: >>33078786

>>33077664
wait, does haste increase your weapon's attack rate? I thought it's only your auto attack

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 02:02:44 No.33078388 Report

Quoted By: >>33078450 >>33078573

Anyone else get the urge to fuck Bae in the ass 'til she cries after the end of the Hard Forest?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 02:04:04 No.33078450 Report

Quoted By: >>33078594

>>33078388
wat

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 02:06:24 No.33078573 Report

Quoted By:

>>33078388
Bae is for mating press you degen

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 02:06:42 No.33078594 Report

Quoted By:

>>33078450
fighting the Hard Forest's boss makes me want to do Bae.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 02:10:32 No.33078786 Report

Quoted By: >>33079087

>>33077767
yes all weapons
its why ku had to nerf haste into the ground

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 02:16:05 No.33079087 Report

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>>33078786
holy shit, no wonder

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 02:21:27 No.33079374 Report

Quoted By:

Credit Card is easily worth it for gold farming runs. You'll see around 17 anvils on average without the credit card running Halu on Stage 2.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 02:22:27 No.33079435 Report

Quoted By: >>33088886

I dont get the upgrades
are you intended to buy them all?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 02:27:46 No.33079743 Report

Quoted By: >>33082071 >>33082186

Piggybank worth getting?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 02:29:17 No.33079831 Report

Quoted By: >>33080067 >>33089353

75521 rrat

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 02:29:25 No.33079843 Report

Quoted By: >>33080696

73k run, though definitely could have gotten more. I had 0 triple boxes this run, but one Golden Yagoo at least.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 02:33:21 No.33080067 Report

Quoted By: >>33080230

>>33079831
How did you get so many base coins without super chatto and piggy bank?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 02:36:15 No.33080230 Report

Quoted By: >>33080431

>>33080067
Kill more enemies get more levels, don't waste any money upgrading things because Bae has enough offense. I tried this on a hunch that Bae scaled better for endless than Mumei and she did. As you noted this wasn't even a great run, I got halu and glasses early but never got SC or piggy bank, and ended up just wanting to see how a glass cannon would do.

The 16:45 wave was a bit dicey and I lost an earlier run there, but if you pop your special a bit in advance it's really the only time you risk damage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 02:37:17 No.33080281 Report

Quoted By:

>>33075724
Exp glasses and limiter/milk. In an endless run I played, I had close to 500% pick up since the idea was to kill for batteries to stun enemies from reaching you. I had elite cooking, frozen sea, and rap dog for damage and debuffs. Doesn't survive after 30 minutes though. Got to level 122 without exp glasses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 02:39:24 No.33080401 Report

Quoted By: >>33092206

>>33076877
Just kite, bro. Or use Migo/FBK.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 02:39:59 No.33080431 Report

Quoted By: >>33080504 >>33080696

>>33080230
Even with the 9 extra levels that's only 3,240 more base coins + whatever extra coins you get from enemy drops. In my runs, I only spend around 1k coins upgrading collabs, so that should only be roughly a 6k difference. Piggybank alone is already a 5k difference, so I probably either had really shit box luck, which I did, or you had godlike box luck. Could be both.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 02:41:10 No.33080504 Report

Quoted By:

>>33080431 (me)
Forgot to mention I also only do 3 collab runs, which frees up 7 full level ups, which is another 2,520 coins.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 02:44:28 No.33080696 Report

Quoted By:

>>33080431
Oh and I did get one golden yagoo, so I'm kinda even with >>33079843 for "special" luck. No super items (super boxes give extra coins) and I think I got one triple box but I can't remember. Definitely not unusually lucky. I think I got maaaaybe one coin from a box.

Does anyone know if later enemies drop more coins? If I had a lot of extra kills backloaded at the end where Mumei's raw damage starts to fall off more than might explain it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 03:06:57 No.33082071 Report

Quoted By:

>>33079743
No, is a noob trap unless you could snatch it early in the game. Like less than 5 minutes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 03:08:29 No.33082186 Report

Quoted By:

>>33079743
Piggybank is always worth getting if you are gold farming. It has a max level of 1 which means you get more holocoin level ups.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 03:11:07 No.33082360 Report

Quoted By: >>33084612 >>33085175 >>33087759 >>33095851

79k
1 golden yaggo
no triples

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 03:27:48 No.33083399 Report

Quoted By:

had weird RNG, got Gold Dakimakura but only 1 collab because I kept getting dumb level up rolls. It's my fastest Forest(Hard mode) clear though, how about you guys?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 03:28:49 No.33083462 Report

Quoted By:

>>33076877
My first W on the Office was using Miko.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 03:49:39 No.33084612 Report

Quoted By: >>33089353

>>33082360
The base amount of coins you get a run can vary wildly huh?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 04:00:36 No.33085175 Report

Quoted By: >>33085553 >>33086711

>>33082360
Do you just rush halu 5, glasses, and superchat + Mumei feathers early game?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 04:06:35 No.33085498 Report

Quoted By: >>33086653

>>33075425
Just wondering, why would you not pick up the boxes? Do the boxes increase in value as time goes on?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 04:07:51 No.33085553 Report

Quoted By:

>>33085175
go halu 2 until you have a strong collab
halu 5 will kill you if youre not ready

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Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 04:17:52 No.33085975 Report

Quoted By:

Luv me mumers
Didn't even need to use the feathers

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 04:21:25 No.33086138 Report

Quoted By: >>33087656

>>33076667
I find elite cooking to be WAY worse than regular spider cooking

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 04:32:08 No.33086653 Report

Quoted By:

>>33085498
I'm saving the boxes so that I can get more anvils towards increasing weapon/item levels. This means that every single anvil that drops before my build is complete is worth an extra 360 holocoins.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 04:33:32 No.33086711 Report

Quoted By:

>>33085175
I rush Moom feathers + Halu 5 ASAP. I keep an eye out for superchat, glasses, mask, credit card, piggybank. You can survive no problem on Mumei with 0 collabs and Halu 5 with some Civilization/History levels.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 04:41:33 No.33087144 Report

Quoted By:

>>33076877
weirdly enough my first win in stage 2 Halu 1 was Okayu. Her food drops saved my ass for the final 5 minutes.

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Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 04:43:52 No.33087251 Report

Quoted By: >>33087759

Can anyone even compare to Roboko for coin farming?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 04:51:17 No.33087656 Report

Quoted By:

>>33086138
really? they cover a much bigger area and it does more damage

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 04:52:50 No.33087759 Report

Quoted By:

>>33087251
>>33082360

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 05:01:59 No.33088211 Report

Quoted By: >>33088407 >>33088481 >>33088718

I don't know how to play RBC-san. Please help

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 05:06:14 No.33088407 Report

Quoted By:

>>33088211
pew pew

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 05:07:44 No.33088481 Report

Quoted By: >>33091726

>>33088211
Get money skills, get experience skills, stack collabs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 05:12:54 No.33088718 Report

Quoted By: >>33091726

>>33088211
Max Halu
Get Limiter
Get battery and electric discharge
Congrats you are now level 80 at 10 minutes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 05:14:21 No.33088776 Report

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>DOn't Halu, Supa, piggybank, full meal, face mask and 3 collabs to get coins 11 levels earlier
>DON'T resist if you don't get halu in the first two minutes
>DON'T pick up holozon boxes until your slots are full
>DON'T pick up holozon boxes until all your slots are full and maxed to triple coin box
>DON'T pick up anvils until you have what you need
>DON'T have sex
>DON'T watch more than your oshi
>DON'T skip the 17 hour powerwashing simulator epic
>DON'T use a controller for smooth dragon fire targeting
It's all so tiresome. Why is the game worse than a boarding school for nuns?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 05:16:26 No.33088886 Report

Quoted By:

>>33079435
Yes. Mostly coins, pickup, attack, and speed. You can look up posts where kay yu is saying they playtested stage 1 hard with 5/5 atk/spd so the metaprogression is intended to be used as design rather than being a shitter crutch.

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Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 05:19:59 No.33089068 Report

Quoted By: >>33093934

Not the items I was going for but it worked out. Was hoping to farm more gold but eh, not going to try this again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 05:25:47 No.33089353 Report

Quoted By: >>33089460

>>33084612
The super boxes also give more coins than triples, so that adds 2-4k depending on when he got it and how it rolled. If it's 79k with a nearly perfect set of items for Mumei and still less kills than >>33079831 run with really sub-optimal items then I am fairly certain Bae has a higher cap than Mumei. There haven't been any real like-for-like builds posted but Bae just plain deals more damage than Mumei so it's down to Bae (damage) and Roboco (levels) for most earning potential.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 05:28:48 No.33089460 Report

Quoted By:

>>33089353
In theory Roboco should take it since levels are more coin than anything else. Getting rbc to 30m consistently is the next frontier I guess

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 05:34:58 No.33089731 Report

Quoted By: >>33089819 >>33089961 >>33090253 >>33093396 >>33096991

>>33073944
I don't get why people think Kronii is so hard to use. She's laughably good esp. considering the easy +189% speed boosts etc. which allow you to avoid everything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 05:37:08 No.33089819 Report

Quoted By:

>>33089731
Gotta get enough of something to get kills to start ramping. Also the player skill issue of having to constantly shift a somewhat narrow attack until you get strong enough to actually kill so the day of the (clockhand) rake can descend

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 05:40:23 No.33089961 Report

Quoted By: >>33090068 >>33093937

>>33089731
Kronii was my first stage clear back in the first version. She's very forgiving because she gets ton of speed and haste, and for all the hate her weapon gets it wasn't initial-version Calli or Kiara and was serviceable enough.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 05:43:07 No.33090068 Report

Quoted By:

>>33089961
>first stage clear
>gets ton of speed and haste
Are you me, anon?
She's one of the first characters I unlocked and her speed really helped clearing the stage.
I also unlocked Calli but she's shit in the first release because of the dead zone in her attack.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 05:47:34 No.33090253 Report

Quoted By:

>>33089731
Kronii just melts things and if you are lucky with haste and bubbles can last longer than most others, especially if you kept your feather revives

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 05:48:59 No.33090320 Report

Quoted By: >>33091634 >>33091688 >>33091808 >>33094092

This cure arc didn't even last the long. No one is playing it not even a week later.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 06:11:04 No.33091246 Report

Quoted By: >>33091454

>last updated: 3 days ago
ABANDONWARE, WE'LL NEVER GET NEW CONTENT AGAIN

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 06:12:58 No.33091330 Report

Quoted By:

>>33074116
super injection asacoco that deals 20% damage to you a second

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Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 06:16:27 No.33091454 Report

Quoted By:

>>33091246

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 06:17:18 No.33091490 Report

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After some experimenting I think I'm not going to be taking elite cooking much anymore. CEO's tears is the best uncollabed weapon now, especially early on when it hits level 7, and it makes broken dreams easily the best collab to go for first. I am not sure if broken dreams is actually better than elite cooking for doing damage but it does hit a larger area so it's at least better for characters who can out-scale the enemies and kill them closer to the edge of the screen. Axe, lava bucket, and asacoco are what I use when I need a final weapon after 4 collabs, none are as good as CEO's tears but it can't really be helped.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 06:21:39 No.33091634 Report

Quoted By:

>>33090320
well yeah, he only added 2 stages
and thats really the new content for most people other than the kaela types who autistically play every character

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 06:23:03 No.33091688 Report

Quoted By:

>>33090320
Bae has it scheduled for the 15th. There's only so much you can do with the base gameplay too. That's fine, that's how real games you can pick up and put down work. You can just play more when the update comes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 06:24:17 No.33091726 Report

Quoted By: >>33091811 >>33091844 >>33092053

>>33088481
>>33088718
Thanks but I meant more how to play not what to grab

Why does Halu tie into it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 06:24:51 No.33091745 Report

Quoted By: >>33092053

I'm surprised Vampire Survivors hasn't made a return to the stream meta. Game is so different now than the last time it was popular.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 06:26:54 No.33091808 Report

Quoted By:

>>33090320
ENs have played it out and the members that haven't been added yet need to keep it fresh for when they do

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 06:27:03 No.33091811 Report

Quoted By:

>>33091726
All Holocure v.0.4 unlock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YkEYTD3kls

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 06:27:55 No.33091844 Report

Quoted By:

>>33091726
Early on you try to chain Discharge, with your ult being your backup when miss a levelup. Use those levels to max your weapon and start work on a collab, and pick up exp items. Some people will probably go straight for the collab instead of her weapon which is just so-so.
Halu is because more enemies = more exp = more levelups and batteries.

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Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 06:31:03 No.33091948 Report

Quoted By: >>33092016 >>33092045

>reroll 5+ times
>don't see even one of the 10~ items you actually want
The RNG is such a fucking cunt now, and will only get worse with each content update.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 06:33:18 No.33092016 Report

Quoted By: >>33092092

>>33091948
The game needs a ban system, but a better one than VS. Maybe if you buy levels in ban, you pick one item per level to ban right at the start.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 06:34:04 No.33092045 Report

Quoted By:

>>33091948
Really does need banishes/skips and more rerolls. Each item added is a huge increase in the number of expected rolls you need to get a specific item. This isn't too bad when you can be flexible, but when you need glasses or halu it's just infuriating to the point where I just restart if I don't get one in the first couple of rerolls. The way the game uses a bucket system is also infuriating, so if you pick something and don't want to level it up yet you will get it offered constantly. VS has the same problem with high luck but you have the tools necessary to deal with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 06:34:20 No.33092053 Report

Quoted By:

>>33091726
More enemies, more coins
Kill enemies, don't die to enemies, achieve power overwhelming

>>33091745
If you got some hours you can put together a spreadsheet with all the vampire survivors streams then get some analytics on it. It might have tumbled off on views later on. They might just not know it's worth a revisit. Anything is possible if you rainbow supah the news.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 06:35:37 No.33092092 Report

Quoted By:

>>33092016
Yeah some stuff is just poisoning the pool and it's only going to get worse with each new item. Probably best to just make a customizable item pool with minimums rather than bans since you'd just need more bans as time went on. Fucking food sheep.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 06:38:40 No.33092191 Report

Quoted By: >>33092205 >>33092260

>want to play Mio
>5 minutes into hard mode with 0 special regen skills aside from Omen
>out of rerolls
Motherfucker, just let me super spam and have my fun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 06:39:18 No.33092205 Report

Quoted By:

>>33092191
Haste

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 06:39:19 No.33092206 Report

Quoted By: >>33092315

>>33080401
Funnily, I can only clear stage 2 with Koro-san or Kiara.
I tried using Miko but I couldn't survive the Mikodanye and 35p onslaught.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 06:41:24 No.33092260 Report

Quoted By: >>33092421

>>33092191
1. Omen
2. Idol Costume
3. ???
4. ORAORAORAORAORA

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 06:42:53 No.33092315 Report

Quoted By: >>33092340

>>33076877
>>33092206
Like, regular stage 2? Are you getting the upgrades in shop? Pick weapons and items complimentary to your mainweapon attack pattern and character special while building up to a collab. After a few runs you know when the crunch periods are and what you need to have by then to handle it. Past that you're just looking to get better at keeping your aim on target while kiting. If you don't get the speed to dip through, you can use water blast or cutting board to break in gaps to slip through.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 06:43:45 No.33092340 Report

Quoted By:

>>33092315
I only maxed coins and exp upgrade

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 06:46:24 No.33092421 Report

Quoted By:

>>33092260
>2. Idol Costume
20 LEVEL UPS AND 6 REROLLS IT'S NOWHERE TO BE FUCKING SEEN

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 07:13:56 No.33093289 Report

Quoted By: >>33093916 >>33094480

korone feels kinda weak

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 07:17:36 No.33093396 Report

Quoted By: >>33094724

>>33089731
I put this together with the idea of how easy to play they are/ Kronii is great but imagine for a second you are Irys. You are a dim bulb playing this who kinda understands most of the concepts but arent like Cali refusing to read anything. You grab Kroni and her clock hands dont aim the way you expected them too and you ignore perfection because "I lose it if I get hit that sucks you always get hit". Thats why Kronii is in this rank along with Azki. Im sure you dont have problems playing her but give somebdies little brother timmy Kronii or Mumei and we know who they are gonaa be able to win with

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 07:24:12 No.33093606 Report

Quoted By:

Turns out screaming at your monitor ANVIL despite having a maxed credit card early does not make anvils drop in 30 minutes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 07:34:09 No.33093916 Report

Quoted By:

>>33093289
she feels stronger than Mio and Sora for me

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 07:34:41 No.33093934 Report

Quoted By:

>>33089068
Is this 1-Hard? Very impressive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 07:34:47 No.33093937 Report

Quoted By:

>>33089961
Is it me or is Kronii's current Clock Hands better now? I swear they seem to hit a lot harder now and for what it's worth the buff to Kroniicopter has made it piss easy to focus down a target with the hands.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 07:39:30 No.33094092 Report

Quoted By: >>33094245

>>33090320
It's oddly enough catching on with more people outside of Hololive atm. Been seeing it get mentioned and played by content creators I never thought I would see cover anything Hololive related.

On a side note how many stages and items/weapons do you think will be enough to consider the game "complete" or at least healthily replayable like other games in the genre?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 07:39:34 No.33094093 Report

Quoted By: >>33094206

>>33073944
Skill issue. My second hard clear was with AZKi who I had not played before.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 07:43:01 No.33094206 Report

Quoted By:

>>33094093
>Skill issue
>Ranking based on ease and power
>Yes you are smarter than Irys and Timmy

Honestly I didnt want to do an all out power tier list because I think of a lot of it is hard to really really nail down and when I thought more about how much harder people had to work than Mumei and Sana I figured that would make for a better tier idea than trying to figure out raw power alone

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 07:44:07 No.33094245 Report

Quoted By: >>33094421

>>33094092
Items is fine as is, because the strong differences in how each character plays is the game's strength compared to other games in the genre.
Stages, probably about double what we have now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 07:49:19 No.33094421 Report

Quoted By:

>>33094245
Another three or so stages would do good the long run yeah. Item wise yeah I mostly agree. I think by next update if Kay is going to drop a similar amount content as this one it's going to place the game in a pretty good spot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 07:51:30 No.33094480 Report

Quoted By:

>>33093289
I only have issues with her on stage 1 hard at high Halu. And if you get lucky and get the super gorilla item she destroys stuff

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Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 07:55:53 No.33094613 Report

Quoted By: >>33095025

I feel like if I got milk instead of being stuck with sake - which by the end was doing absolutely nothing for me - this could have been a contender. I also got some pretty poor anvil RNG, which definitely cost me a few thousand. 30 minutes is not really enough time for Roboco's infinite scaling to kick in, and honestly even a few levels of attack and crit on Bae will let Bae massively outscale her. I got 11 levels more but Bae had more offensive items, so maybe another 5-6k maximum earnings over Bae from levels, minus whatever Bae gets directly from kills.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 08:00:31 No.33094724 Report

Quoted By:

>>33093396
I actually find mumei kinda squishy until you awaken. I mean I guess I suck but I do have a few runs where I die before that sometimes due to bad rng.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 08:10:53 No.33095025 Report

Quoted By: >>33095510

>>33094613
What is your reasoning to think Bae scales much better than Mumei & Roboco?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 08:26:40 No.33095510 Report

Quoted By:

>>33095025
In terms of damage Bae just does more. Mumei caps out while Roboco scales infinitely but slowly. Frankly Bae can outscale Roboco by taking a few attack upgrades since each attack upgrade counts for more with Bae's higher damage crits. Roboco taking +attack every level gets outscaled by Bae doing the same unless Roboco is getting ~50% more levels, not that it really matters.

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Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 08:34:07 No.33095738 Report

Quoted By:

>all I want is to have fun with my oshi
>had to resort to buying her with tears
>everybody else in her gen is at g-rank 4+ at this point but she's still at 1

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Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 08:37:48 No.33095851 Report

Quoted By: >>33096061

79428 rbc, barely edging out >>33082360 despite not getting stuck with full meal instead of super chat time, and not getting super milk. I'm content with this for now; not that I played perfectly but but it's way more RNG than skill at this point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 08:41:29 No.33095962 Report

Quoted By:

In the future when everyone is released, i think it would be cool to get a new mechanic that you can only unlock by doing a character specific stage

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 08:45:25 No.33096061 Report

Quoted By:

>>33095851 (me)
Also, should mention, no super box but maybe two triples? I think there was also an early golden yagoo who barely gave me shit. I've seen supers directly give over 3k and as little as 1.1k, but I've never seen a triple break 1k yet. Also spent 300-400 on upgrades that were probably unnecessary, if I'd known it was going to be such a slim margin I probably wouldn't have.

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Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 09:16:15 No.33096962 Report

Quoted By: >>33097187 >>33097667

Hows stage 2 with Halu? hard at all? whats the best coin farm?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 09:17:42 No.33096991 Report

Quoted By:

>>33089731
Kronii is one of the strongest if you have triple IQ digits. 2 of her passives are great damage multipliers and bubble removes the collision and trivialize all event encounters. Plus she's fast and has increased pick up range. Also, her main weapon is super underrated, you just need to learn how to use it.
But if you're dumb, you'll just lose perfection, fall behind, mismanage your bubbles, start panicking and die.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 09:21:34 No.33097104 Report

Quoted By: >>33097479

Why do people take Piggy bank for gold farming runs?
It's "just" like 1.5k gold and that's assuming you are picking it up minute one and you're losing an entire item slot for it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 09:24:27 No.33097187 Report

Quoted By: >>33100967

>>33096962
Stage 2 does not get nearly as hard with halu as stage 1 hard does. There is exactly one wave around the 16:45 mark in stage 2 that might be a minor problem if you have absolutely no defensive upgrades but all the others can be easily cleared out with glass cannon builds.

Stage 2 endless with halu is the best for gold farming if you pick Mumei, Roboco, or Bae. Mumei is the easiest, by far. Bae has a harder start but can get more kills than Mumei later on, though I don't know if I'm going to bother trying to figure out who is truly better. Roboco is probably the most coins but she needs active playing from 20-30 minutes to keep leveling up and triggering discharge. Mumei can just afk from 20 to 29 minutes, while Bae can afk between specials. If you just want a chill time then stage 1 endless with halu is fine for farming, and you can do it with any character. Stage 1 doesn't really change at all with halu unless you're really bad at dodging, even the odd hit won't instantly kill you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 09:35:13 No.33097479 Report

Quoted By: >>33097774 >>33098518

>>33097104
>It's "just" like 1.5k gold and that's assuming you are picking it up minute one and you're losing an entire item slot for it.
It's affected by the gold upgrade and multipliers. Halu, by comparison, is not affected by shop upgrades, so each kill is always only 1 coin * stage multiplier. Piggy bank with upgrades is 3 coins/second * multiplier, and say you get it at the 5 minute mark that's 1500 seconds -> 4500 unmultiplied coins. In order to do better than piggy bank, whatever takes that item slot needs to get you more than 4500 more kills + levels * 360. It's actually even better than that, since piggy bank is a single level which gives it a direct 720/1080 coin advantage over most other items.

Ignoring super items the best lineup is probably halu, glasses, credit card (and playing around it), SC, piggy bank, and then milk. You're not going to get that much experience/gold from a single item that isn't already in the build, so the piggy bank is efficient.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 09:41:32 No.33097667 Report

Quoted By:

>>33096962
Stage 2 with max Halu isn't that hard once you get a Collab around the time you hit Mikodanye. I ran multiple Suisei runs with max Halu and it's pretty damn easy once I get Flattening Boards and anvilling the Awakened Axe a bit.

Max Halu Stage 1 Hard is a lot tougher since enemy damage and speed scales really damn high on Halu 4 and 5. Big issue I've been having is that I'm ass at dodging patterns at times even when running Kronii and the scaled up damage on Halu 5 basically 2 shots me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 09:45:20 No.33097774 Report

Quoted By: >>33098060

>>33097479
Oh I wasn't aware that it's affected by shop upgrades, I see.
Thanks.
Haven't played much since the upgrade, how greedily can you pick glasses, halu and superchat compared to maxing your first weapon / first collab?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 09:55:59 No.33098056 Report

Quoted By:

shuba
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4e7LRSB39mU

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 09:56:10 No.33098060 Report

Quoted By:

>>33097774
>how greedily can you pick glasses, halu and superchat compared to maxing your first weapon / first collab?
Depends on the character but I restart if I don't get halu/glasses early on. On stage 1 normal or stage 2 you can max both glasses and halu before upgrading anything else, but I usually find myself leveling Mumei or Roboco's weapon a bit just so I don't need to waste extra rerolls. Bae's weapon is pretty bad and I always go for CEO's tears first if I can get it. CEO's tears gets really, really good at levels 6 and 7 and can carry any character through the early game, then becomes broken dreams. Getting SC early is not as important, especially with how much other RNG you need to deal with.

If you're not going for epeen runs then you don't really need to sweat it though. Order doesn't matter much and continuing a bad run will get you gold faster than constantly restarting less-than-perfect runs. Restart if you don't get halu in the first levelup with rerolls, but otherwise just play with what it gives you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 10:11:47 No.33098518 Report

Quoted By: >>33098591 >>33099947

>>33097479
Lately, I don't think the piggy bank is a good item for coin farming. It lowers your pickup range so much.
I'd rather max out the Limiter and let the stuff come to me. Especially in Halu 5 mob hordes where picking up their drops is much harder

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 10:14:04 No.33098591 Report

Quoted By:

>>33098518
Just wait for a rainbow EXP and pick it up near the end.

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Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 10:17:34 No.33098689 Report

Quoted By: >>33098721 >>33098738 >>33100721

What happens?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 10:18:31 No.33098721 Report

Quoted By:

>>33098689
Your dog dies and your mother gets gangraped.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 10:18:58 No.33098738 Report

Quoted By:

>>33098689
>>33043031

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 10:47:51 No.33099540 Report

Quoted By:

>>33073727
Yeah I fuckin died like a bitch to random shit I could've easily dodged because of hitboxes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 11:05:33 No.33099947 Report

Quoted By: >>33100148

>>33098518
>It lowers your pickup range so much
Pickup range goes to rank 10 in the shop. Also just let the screen fill with exp then touch a magnet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 11:12:09 No.33100148 Report

Quoted By:

>>33099947
I get as many ranbows when I need them as Golden Yagoos and Super items

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 11:31:29 No.33100721 Report

Quoted By: >>33100843

>>33098689
Me: mom I want some water
Mom: we have water at home
Water at home:

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Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 11:36:35 No.33100843 Report

Quoted By:

>>33100721
jesus, go back

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Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 11:41:00 No.33100967 Report

Quoted By: >>33101022 >>33101394 >>33102331

>>33097187
>Mumei can just afk from 20 to 29 minutes
Yea, you can just sit back and collect free money

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Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 11:42:56 No.33101022 Report

Quoted By: >>33101219 >>33102147

>>33100967
You call THAT free money?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 11:49:20 No.33101219 Report

Quoted By:

>>33101022
GOD FUCK I CAN'T DO IT

Got Suisei to 69k coins at 29 minutes again. I really want the 3 collab idea to be good but maybe it really is best to just play it safe with 4, especially since even optimally you only get like 2k extra gold.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 11:55:30 No.33101394 Report

Quoted By:

>>33100967
Moomay has been like that since the first release.
It's even better now because of Limiter.
The Friend also collects coins now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 12:06:09 No.33101687 Report

Quoted By: >>33101871

I feel like a retard when I use these threads, everyone is farming with Mumei but every time I try it I get butt fucked
Like, what's the general strategy for it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 12:12:40 No.33101871 Report

Quoted By: >>33101949

>>33101687
Which stage are you farming?
Have you completed any stages?
What's your Moomay rank and your shop upgrades?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 12:14:48 No.33101949 Report

Quoted By: >>33102094 >>33102331

>>33101871
Stage 2
All three of them
I usually go all attack, speed, exp and coins, with the obvious inclusion of the Special Attack and that one that gives you more stats per level
Personally I think I might be retarded for real

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 12:19:02 No.33102094 Report

Quoted By: >>33102142 >>33102331

>>33101949 (me)
Oh yeah, I forgot that I have reroll as well, and my Mumei is rank 2, I confess I haven't pulled that many gachas from council before getting all 5 of them

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 12:20:28 No.33102142 Report

Quoted By:

>>33102094
Bruh just max the coin rank in the shop or at least get it to 5+ then just Halu 5 on S2 endless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 12:20:38 No.33102147 Report

Quoted By:

>>33101022
It was a bad run. I got the Super Chatto so late in after the 20 minute mark.

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Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 12:23:46 No.33102251 Report

Quoted By: >>33102297

The only advantage that playing on a keyboard has over twin sticks is that you can't pet Bubba on a controller

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 12:25:10 No.33102297 Report

Quoted By:

>>33102251
On the bright side you're probably okay playing Ame on keyboard because she can't aim anyway. It's only when you unlock the Roboco upgrade for her that she can aim.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 12:26:14 No.33102331 Report

Quoted By:

>>33101949
>>33102094
I think your shop upgrade is enough (Atk, Spd, XP, Coin) for farming.
Try farming in Stage 1 endless if Stage 2 endless is too hard.
You can try Stage 2 endless when your Mumei has higher level (gacha her) or you have better strategy (weapons/collabs choice, passive items choice)
This >>33100967 weapons/collabs look good, what did you use in your run?

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Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 12:38:35 No.33102762 Report

Quoted By: >>33103044

I submit to the court this piece of evidence. I consider this a "perfect" baseline Mumei run.

>Glasses 5, SCT 5, Halu 5, and Piggybank all before 5 minutes
>Next two items max at rank 1 so more levels to take coins
>Absolutely ZERO triple boxes
>Absolutely ZERO golden Yagoos

The end result, 68k coins.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 12:39:02 No.33102780 Report

Quoted By: >>33102841

Now I don't have any reason to farm money anymore. I maxed out all the upgrades in the shop. I maxed out every character's G rank.
I don't even have to pick up the Super Chatto Time item anymore, because there's literally nothing for me to buy now.

After 5 days of playing, I'm finally done with this game and will now move onto playing other games. Until the next update drops, see you guys later.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 12:40:49 No.33102841 Report

Quoted By:

>>33102780
Dev needs to allow the damage upgrade in the shop to keep going infinitely.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 12:46:31 No.33103044 Report

Quoted By: >>33103359

>>33102762
>>Next two items max at rank 1
You had three Full Meal, Piggy Bank, Face Mask.
Taking a max level 1 item was part of the original Moomay strategy in the rentry link, only Full Meal though because Face Mask was a max level 3 item in older version.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 12:46:56 No.33103063 Report

Quoted By:

Does Stellar proc off of itself?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 12:54:18 No.33103359 Report

Quoted By:

>>33103044
Piggy Bank being max rank 1 is just a nice bonus more than anything. Little guy net me about 7k in that run.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 12:57:11 No.33103468 Report

Quoted By: >>33103616 >>33103929

Did Subaru just take Gori paw on Susei? Why? Why would you do that to yourself?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 12:59:08 No.33103543 Report

Quoted By: >>33103694 >>33103888

>get Piggy Bank
>can barely pick up exp now
>not leveling up fast enough
>die
Great item!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 13:00:58 No.33103616 Report

Quoted By: >>33103825

>>33103468
Congrats anon, you're officialy dumber than a duck

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 13:03:02 No.33103694 Report

Quoted By:

>>33103543
GIT GUD!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 13:06:30 No.33103825 Report

Quoted By: >>33103906 >>33104027

>>33103616
>Crit based character
>Take item that lowers crit
>Faggotanon reacts
>Tells me water is the stuff in the toilet you cant put that on food

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 13:07:53 No.33103873 Report

Quoted By: >>33103937

Stage 1 hard mode, Halu level 5.
Who else is a good contestant to make it to 30 mins aside from Mumei, Roboco and Rrat?
I can't seem to do it with anyone else

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 13:08:17 No.33103888 Report

Quoted By:

>>33103543
Here's a few ways to remedy your problem.

1) Max out pickup range in the shop
2) Play Mumei
3) Play Sana

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 13:08:56 No.33103906 Report

Quoted By: >>33103960 >>33103994

>>33103825
Retard-chama, Suisei has guaranteed crits, so Gorilla has no downsides on her

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 13:09:34 No.33103929 Report

Quoted By:

>>33103468
Suisex Awaken axe swing is GUARANTEED Crits Anon, you do sacrifice the other weapon's Crits but the Axe will murder most things

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 13:09:46 No.33103937 Report

Quoted By:

>>33103873
Miko and Suisei can probably do it. I've been almost making it to 30 minutes on stage 2 with a 3 collab full money Suisei build, so with regular items I'd imagine she could walk it home.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 13:10:17 No.33103960 Report

Quoted By: >>33104004

>>33103906
Retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 13:11:22 No.33103994 Report

Quoted By:

>>33103906
You fucking stupid asshole she has guarunteed cits on her basic attack which is great but isnt enough once you start getting swarmed later. and collabs carry the load

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 13:11:37 No.33104004 Report

Quoted By:

>>33103960
Concession accepted

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 13:12:04 No.33104027 Report

Quoted By: >>33104165

>>33103825
Not him but you're a fucking idiot. There's no point in getting crit over 100%. Suisei with her buffs can easily get over 100% crit. Thus if you take Gorilla's paw you have an Attack buff with zero downsides as long as your crit remains at 100 or above.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 13:14:38 No.33104104 Report

Quoted By:

Not sure if pretending or really that stupid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 13:15:44 No.33104151 Report

Quoted By:

Can we please stop pretending that Subaru is some 200IQ genius.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 13:16:14 No.33104165 Report

Quoted By:

>>33104027
Sure samefag enjoy that maxed out 35% crit rate taking Gori Paw also prevents you from getting broke as shit Super Gori but I doubt the Duck knew that just like I dobut she has maxed crits from the shop to compensate

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 13:23:07 No.33104429 Report

Quoted By: >>33104545 >>33104587 >>33104628 >>33110329

One big problem Gorilla Paw has is that your base damage % should already be quite high from other stuff. The shop alone gives you +60%. This means the +50% from GP increases your damage by less than a third, but robs you of 20% crit chance when crit/haste are probably the easiest way to up your overall damage output.

Item is just bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 13:26:23 No.33104545 Report

Quoted By: >>33104628

>>33104429
It's item for casual play. If you just some random, playing non-crit character, have close to no upgrades, only care about clearing the stage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 13:26:56 No.33104560 Report

Quoted By:

I can't keep up my level up chains as RBC at all...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 13:27:43 No.33104587 Report

Quoted By: >>33104656

>>33104429
It doesn't matter if you have almost no crit though. Balancing things around being maxed on shop upgrades is retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 13:28:36 No.33104628 Report

Quoted By:

>>33104429
>>33104545
Also, if there ever will be some kind of mode without shop upgrades it can get a surge in popularity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 13:29:14 No.33104656 Report

Quoted By: >>33104730 >>33104829

>>33104587
>It doesn't matter if you have almost no crit though
Only for purposes of Suisei's axe, which by the time you have 2 collabs won't be what kills things. And if they DO make it through the collab damage, they probably wouldn't have if you didn't have Gorilla Paw holding back the collab's damage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 13:31:04 No.33104730 Report

Quoted By:

>>33104656
I think his point about balancing around a fully upgraded shop is still a good one though. A lot of folks are just gonna play stage mode with their favorite chubba and will be lucky if thewy read Goris paw enough to know it doesnt raise crits

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 13:31:14 No.33104739 Report

Quoted By: >>33104877

What's the multiplier on default criticals?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 13:32:30 No.33104776 Report

Quoted By: >>33104858 >>33104914 >>33105054 >>33106896

Can you beat both stage 1 and 2 with only your auto attack on all characters or is there a character that it's just impossible with?

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Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 13:33:40 No.33104820 Report

Quoted By: >>33105243

I had to play this game just to see why so many of the girls were awful at it and I guess I can kind of see why if you don't rebind your keys. The strafe lock is kind of retarded with how it works since you have to move into the direction before holding the key,

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 13:33:59 No.33104829 Report

Quoted By:

>>33104656
Right, of course if it's suisei it's a waste to use the gorilla paw since she is basically a crit whore and her axe swing alone doesn't proc stellar/blocks quite enough to bring out the full potential of the character.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 13:34:32 No.33104858 Report

Quoted By:

>>33104776
It's highly improbable because you'll need to pick a weapon eventually.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 13:35:11 No.33104877 Report

Quoted By:

>>33104739
1.5

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 13:36:13 No.33104914 Report

Quoted By:

>>33104776
Depends more on your shop upgrades than anything else. I don't think it's be entirely impossible but there are certainly characters on which it'd be harder.

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Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 13:39:48 No.33105054 Report

Quoted By: >>33105198 >>33106925

>>33104776
You absolutely can, you just have to pray for no weapons on the run.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 13:43:01 No.33105198 Report

Quoted By: >>33105233

>>33105054
Glasses look like antisinergy. You want less level, not more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 13:43:47 No.33105233 Report

Quoted By:

>>33105198
It was that or a weapon...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 13:44:03 No.33105243 Report

Quoted By: >>33105285

>>33104820
You can also use gamepad for twin shooter controls. It's so good, it's basically cheating.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 13:45:01 No.33105285 Report

Quoted By:

>>33105243
I noticed. I don't know why the creator didn't allow people to aim with the mouse. There's another Vampire Survivors clone that lets you do that and it works great. Also I rolled my oshi first try.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 13:51:06 No.33105569 Report

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>>33075724
Pick the battery upgrade and don't hesitate to run into swarms of mobs if there are batteries, you will be able to save time by leveling quickly and stun them so they won't hit you.
Also pick the electric shock upgrade on level up, it's really strong and you can pretty much chain it and have it almost always on in the early levels, at least in hard mode.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 13:55:07 No.33105754 Report

Quoted By:

Dumb mayodog...

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 14:14:20 No.33106787 Report

Quoted By: >>33106955 >>33106966 >>33107092

>Halu never shows despite getting two supers
>Ended up lower level than a normal stage run despite another 10 minutes
>Spent 3 levelups on coins just to afford to use the anvil
>Paid 2 coins for the half hour experience
O-Okay... Least I got to spam my special

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 14:16:17 No.33106887 Report

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I made it past the second stage with like only 2 purchased upgrades by merely cheesing with the chicken feather. That item's kinda crazy.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 14:16:26 No.33106896 Report

Quoted By: >>33107053 >>33108816

>>33104776
Funny I was just testing that. My stat upgrade RNG was shit, but the idea is sound.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 14:16:57 No.33106925 Report

Quoted By:

>>33105054
You can refuse the pickup anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 14:17:37 No.33106955 Report

Quoted By:

>>33106787
>HoloCoins Gained: -2
YOU WOT M8?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 14:17:44 No.33106966 Report

Quoted By: >>33107087

>>33106787
>memebership
Retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 14:19:07 No.33107048 Report

Quoted By: >>33107171

We're at 49 items all together, think they'll add a Banish-type shop upgrade to thin the pool soon?
If they're worried about it copying VS too much just call it a Bonk or something

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 14:19:16 No.33107053 Report

Quoted By:

>>33106896
It's not exactly a challenge on mori. Other than the fact that she is a slow piece of shit, that is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 14:19:58 No.33107087 Report

Quoted By:

>>33106966
I wanted to stack all the attack items plus halu for fun punchdog ryona but then life gave me two supers and idol dress while no halu ever

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 14:20:02 No.33107092 Report

Quoted By:

>>33106787
>membership
...why?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 14:20:20 No.33107112 Report

Quoted By: >>33107310

>beat hardmode on the first try
Let's fucking GO

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 14:21:06 No.33107171 Report

Quoted By:

>>33107048
Hopefully, reroll isn't a valid solution and you actively sabotage yourself if you try to fill up weapons cause your holozon boxes and levelup weapon picks keep fucking going to other shit so it takes 20 levels longer than it needs to in order to get the first collab up so you can dump your stored anvils into it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 14:23:03 No.33107310 Report

Quoted By:

>>33107112
Once you figure out how collabs work it's not hard

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 14:25:32 No.33107496 Report

Quoted By:

>1st run post-update baited me by giving me super milk on Sana
Never been able to get that kind of synergy again

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 14:47:06 No.33108816 Report

Quoted By: >>33109195

>>33106896
Yeah, I've been going one by one through them starting with gamers. It's been pretty simple so far but I'm afraid to do someone like Ame. I think the easiest strats to try it are:
1)Always pick stats, even the bad ones.
2)Only reroll if you have no non-weapon choice
3)Have max rerolls
4)Don't kill everything if you can't, running is easy.
5)Movespeed is really important towards the end.
6)Save all anvils for auto-attack damage increase.
I will say I have only done stage one so far on all of gamers and half of Gen 0.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 14:53:16 No.33109195 Report

Quoted By: >>33111048

>>33108816
Too RNG dependent imo. Between anvil rate, getting the right items soon enough, and successfully enchanting the dumb main weapon.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 14:54:26 No.33109254 Report

Quoted By: >>33109309 >>33109418

>Roll for Korone so i could unlock X-potato
>Got 3 dupes of Mio-sha instead before finally got Koro-san
What did the game trying to tell me?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 14:55:29 No.33109309 Report

Quoted By:

>>33109254
You're Halu-ing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 14:57:41 No.33109418 Report

Quoted By:

>>33109254
hags

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 15:03:19 No.33109684 Report

Quoted By: >>33112073

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 15:11:25 No.33110046 Report

Quoted By: >>33110232 >>33110241 >>33110925

Is "endless" a lie and the yagoo rush is just a hard wall now? Doesn't seem like there's any way to survive it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 15:15:37 No.33110232 Report

Quoted By:

>>33110046
Kronii, if you are super lucky.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 15:15:46 No.33110241 Report

Quoted By:

>>33110046
Yes as far as we know.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 15:18:02 No.33110329 Report

Quoted By: >>33110521 >>33110570 >>33110712

>>33104429
>One big problem Gorilla Paw has is that your base damage % should already be quite high from other stuff. The shop alone gives you +60%. This means the +50% from GP increases your damage by less than a third, but robs you of 20% crit chance
>+60%
You need to have a whopping +450% attack bonus to make Gorilla's Paw not worth losing 20% crit (for non-Bae characters). And only becomes more valuable as the total crit bonus climbs up. And it even becomes viable for Bae with 47%+ crit (before Gorilla penalty).

The only issue is proccing the crit-related skills. Suisei's axe has 100%, however, it's still possible to drop the stacks, because the proc rate isn't 100% unlike the crit rate itself. But as long as you're above 0% crit, the odd crits from the generic weapons and collabs should take care of keeping the stacks up.
However, it would impact Stellar AoE... if it worked as advertised. There's likely a hidden cooldown on it, because otherwise the constant stream of damage would annihilate anything in close proximity to Sui-chan, which it doesn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 15:22:28 No.33110521 Report

Quoted By:

>>33110329
Since it works on all your weapons so you can't anvil close to that, it's basically legit unless like you say there's crit passive mechanics like with bae

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 15:23:37 No.33110570 Report

Quoted By: >>33110787

>>33110329
Show your math formula.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 15:25:22 No.33110668 Report

Quoted By: >>33110836 >>33110884

Korone is significantly weaker than other characters. I would say a tier weaker.

I tried everything on Korone, all possible combinations, still very weak. The only character that I struggle in stage 1 (with no atk related shop buff).
Weird though. Korone has 30% haste, which makes all weapons fire 30% faster, but in reality she is very weak.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 15:26:23 No.33110712 Report

Quoted By:

>>33110329
what is the actual damage calculation for crit?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 15:28:03 No.33110787 Report

Quoted By: >>33115024

>>33110570
The graph is broken for <20% crit, because you can't negatively crit in this game. But because of that Gorilla's Hand is stronger at those values.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 15:29:04 No.33110836 Report

Quoted By:

>>33110668
Korone is a really strong brawler. Are you utilizing her Retaliation mechanic?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 15:30:13 No.33110884 Report

Quoted By:

>>33110668
You're supposed to take a hit every 20 seconds to proc the attack up bro. You can just drive through swarms like a snow plow.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 15:30:40 No.33110906 Report

Quoted By: >>33113143

How does one get to the 31st minute these days?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 15:31:00 No.33110925 Report

Quoted By:

>>33110046
>VS has no endless mode at all
>20MTD endless is an unbalanced mess that becomes an AFK-fest after just the first 20 or so minutes
>Holocure "endless" is just less than 10 extra minutes of spamming up-sized groups with no variety until 30 minutes hits, and then the run is over if you can't megacheese
I know endless is a hard thing to get right, but man it's disappointing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 15:33:36 No.33111048 Report

Quoted By:

>>33109195
Still a fun way to give yourself a challenge. Endless mode is dumb to me.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 15:47:02 No.33111683 Report

Quoted By: >>33111895 >>33112171

>>33073723
So mumei is still meta?
This is my best gold farm run so far, haven't tried endless yet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 15:52:24 No.33111895 Report

Quoted By:

>>33111683
>So mumei is still meta?
She basically hasn't changed so yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 15:55:56 No.33112073 Report

Quoted By: >>33112281

>>33109684
How you made so little coins even with Halu?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 15:57:41 No.33112171 Report

Quoted By: >>33112609

>>33111683
If you believe in your /vt/ bros then you can edge ahead with Bae or Suisei with careful optimization

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 15:58:19 No.33112206 Report

Quoted By:

>>33073432
Hard stage broke Koyori

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 15:59:44 No.33112281 Report

Quoted By: >>33112483

>>33112073
20 minutes run and maybe got it late. Also not everyone runs with maxed coins upgrade.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 16:03:44 No.33112483 Report

Quoted By: >>33113912

>>33112281
I mean, base coins. 6k for a endless looks low. Or maybe to many Mumei, Roboco runs had fried my brain and anything below ~30k looks like a waste.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 16:06:25 No.33112609 Report

Quoted By:

>>33112171
yeah I had fun playing with them the most. crits are fun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 16:12:47 No.33112933 Report

Quoted By: >>33113186

It's been fun bros, thread will probably die in a day or two after everyone's done with this game and so I'll be back in three months or so for the next release.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 16:17:49 No.33113143 Report

Quoted By: >>33113186

>>33110906
This was my only real attempt so far. I thought I was invincible until proven wrong. I think you can optimize the items further by taking more defensive items like Body Pillow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 16:18:16 No.33113160 Report

Quoted By:

Holocure is reclining...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 16:18:43 No.33113186 Report

Quoted By: >>33113647

>>33112933
Probably. We had a good run at least.
>>33113143
does knockback stuff affect them at all?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 16:29:08 No.33113647 Report

Quoted By:

>>33113186
>does knockback stuff affect them at all?
It's hard to tell because from 30:00 until about a few seconds before this screenshot the entire screen is Yagoos. But Headphones are amazing because of the % damage negation. With Gura you can get:
Short Height: 35% to dodge a hit
Headphones: 35% negate a hit
Body Pillow: 25% damage reduction
So each attack only has a 42% chance of damaging you, and then only does 75% damage to you, which you can then heal back with Just Bandage and Shark Bite.
If membership is usable then you could stack even more DR.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 16:35:07 No.33113912 Report

Quoted By: >>33114267

>>33112483
These 2 characters are broken yeah (still love roboco tho, she's super fun to play)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 16:42:23 No.33114267 Report

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>>33113912
Most characters are broken and anvil enchanted collabs just worsen it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 16:43:34 No.33114326 Report

Quoted By: >>33114454

https://youtu.be/f2y_WLsvEE4

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 16:46:18 No.33114454 Report

Quoted By:

>>33114326
>Getting stuck in a tree
Happen to me so many times...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 16:46:45 No.33114477 Report

Quoted By:

Imagine shilling your HoloCure yt video on a Tibetan silk weaving forum

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 16:58:08 No.33114912 Report

Quoted By: >>33116074 >>33116351

watching koyori is pain

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 17:00:38 No.33115024 Report

Quoted By: >>33119426

>>33110787
You forgot about opportunity cost. Do you know this little 6% damage upgrades? Gorilla's Paw has 3 levels, so if you take 3 damage upgrades instead, you will realise that Paw is only better than 6% damage upgrades if you have less than 200% damage. And it's worse after that. And also you are blocking your item slot. And it's only if you don't take past max anvil upgrades into consideration.
If you have 100% damage maxed Paw is like 8.5% damage upgrade per level. And it block your item slot. So, tell me. Would you pick an item that says - 8/16/24% damage. Because it is what Gorilla's Paw is. And for some heroes or if you pick a mask it's even less. 7/14/21 or even 6/12/18. I wouldn't, that's for sure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 17:01:57 No.33115078 Report

Quoted By: >>33115214

how is the stage clear bonus calculated? is it a percentage of what you've earned, excluding halu, for that level?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 17:04:57 No.33115214 Report

Quoted By:

>>33115078
It's much less than halu 5 endless so just do that instead

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 17:17:26 No.33115814 Report

Quoted By:

I love that halu made endless worth doing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 17:22:53 No.33116074 Report

Quoted By: >>33116221 >>33117081

>>33114912
You think someone who streams always 2 times a day everyday playing video games would be good at video games

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 17:23:55 No.33116135 Report

Quoted By: >>33117081

What are the best weps and items right now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 17:25:45 No.33116221 Report

Quoted By:

>>33116074
The "only need X amount of time to become an expert at [THING]" is a stupid myth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 17:27:19 No.33116303 Report

Quoted By:

she did it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 17:28:14 No.33116351 Report

Quoted By:

>>33114912
she made it, yokatta

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 17:36:00 No.33116707 Report

Quoted By: >>33116910 >>33117272 >>33118159 >>33124309

Fubuki is fun

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 17:36:53 No.33116743 Report

Quoted By: >>33116884 >>33116971 >>33117081

I finally beat hard mode with a lucky early super energy drink. Why is Bae literally the easiest part of hard mode?

On another note, does anyone else feel like Holocure has too much clutter? Collabs like micomet or specials like Miko's makes it so hard to see what is actually happening, I've never felt this problem while playing vampire survivors

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 17:39:44 No.33116884 Report

Quoted By:

>>33116743
>too much clutter
It's been like that since the first release.
Try turning off visual effects and damage numbers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 17:40:15 No.33116910 Report

Quoted By:

>>33116707
GOTTA GO FAST

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 17:40:26 No.33116921 Report

Quoted By: >>33117081

how large is the difference between halu 4 and 5?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 17:41:24 No.33116971 Report

Quoted By: >>33117402

>>33116743
>I've never felt this problem while playing vampire survivors
Well, some people certainly have.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kSySzqFwMo

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 17:43:29 No.33117081 Report

Quoted By:

>>33116135
Any weps. Just get any 2 of a collab and stop so you focus them up. Then get the next collab going and so on until you have 4 collabs and a fifth weapon at level 7
Halu, membership, face mask, asacoco injection, gorilla fist

>>33116074
Time doesn't buy skill and experiences aren't always transferrable. Some times you just get your thinking into a rut and some things you're just not aware of. It doesn't exactly ship with a collab list and while you're learning the game you might not make the obvious logic leap to holding back on boxes and anvils

>>33116743
It does, I can't even see A-chan's attacks and was a split second from dying.

>>33116921
Negligible you should have a good main weapon or collab soon just do a better kiting loop so you can pick up xp.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 17:49:29 No.33117272 Report

Quoted By: >>33117436 >>33117504

>>33116707
She sure is. I survived over 4 minutes of yagoos with her. Nothing but Spd, Haste, and HP upgrades whenever they're available. Plus knockback items like Wamy Water and Idol Concert helped push the yagoos aside as I ran.

I bet if I had the Super Pillow and Super Energy Drink, I could outrun Yagoo forever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 17:51:52 No.33117402 Report

Quoted By:

>>33116971
It happens for the stream viewers.
I watched a VS streamer and he said that the streamer software need to be configured a certain setting to enable VS streams run smoothly.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 17:52:00 No.33117411 Report

Quoted By: >>33117504

Mumei is cheating.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 17:52:30 No.33117436 Report

Quoted By:

>>33117272
I just want to see if I could reach Yagoo with 0 weapons, which I did. Easy enough to do, and FZ/KK and the basic attack swords still killed enemies fairly well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 17:53:49 No.33117504 Report

Quoted By: >>33122511

>>33117411
She can reach +1000% ATK in older versions.
>>33117272
You didn't mention that you have the feather.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 17:53:52 No.33117506 Report

Quoted By: >>33117548

can a special focused build okayu survive endless by just eating all the yagoos? or can she not survive long enough for her ult to recharge?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 17:54:57 No.33117548 Report

Quoted By: >>33117652

>>33117506
No, not enough Special cooldown, and the Crit-Charm having an internal cooldown means it won't save you in between

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 17:57:04 No.33117652 Report

Quoted By: >>33118071

>>33117548
damn not even with super idol costume piki piki man? well that blows.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 18:02:12 No.33117908 Report

Quoted By: >>33117997 >>33119644 >>33122629

I can't be the only retard who finds stage 2 harder than hard 1, right? the lack of space to move around fucks me hard

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 18:03:56 No.33117997 Report

Quoted By:

>>33117908
just camp around the large and open area in stage 2

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 18:05:06 No.33118071 Report

Quoted By: >>33118204

>>33117652
Okayu's Special is 60 second cooldown. With Super Idol costume you can knock that down to 33 seconds. It lasts 6 seconds, so with Super idol Costume you'd have 12 seconds of it. Pikipiman increases the meter by 4%, which would be 2.4 seconds.
So, even with Super Idol Costume and everything perfectly timed so there is 0 overlap, you'd have 11 seconds of vulnerability, and would need to eat 5 hits of Pikipiman to get the gauge back up, which takes a minimum of 1 second. Surviving a full second of Yagoo's would be difficult at 30 minutes, and with their scaling you'd eventually be killed in that time frame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 18:06:15 No.33118159 Report

Quoted By: >>33118271

>>33116707
Were you upgrading her tail with anvils?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 18:06:57 No.33118204 Report

Quoted By: >>33118341

>>33118071
Eh, my math is dumb. You'd have 21 seconds of vulnerability, not 11, and that means you'd need 9 hits of Pikipiman, so almost 2 seconds of hits minimum.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 18:08:03 No.33118271 Report

Quoted By:

>>33118159
A few, when there was nothing else to use them on, but most of them went to leveling up items. Her tail damage is fairly worthless, and the swords they summon don't scale off weapon damage, just %ATK

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 18:09:10 No.33118341 Report

Quoted By:

>>33118204
ah fuck. g rank only boost stats too right not special cooldown reduction?
i wonder if special cooldown reduction will ever be able to be upgraded beyond the maximum set rn like some of the other stats.
probably not because then it would enable infinite MOGU MOGU MOGU

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 18:28:31 No.33119426 Report

Quoted By: >>33119649

>>33115024
I don't see your math, anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 18:32:32 No.33119644 Report

Quoted By:

>>33117908
Use a controll pad with dual stick and never look back.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 18:32:37 No.33119649 Report

Quoted By:

>>33119426
0.005 x Crit chance x (Damage+(Damage x 0.01 x Damage bonus)) + (Damage+(Damage x 0.01 x Damage bonus))

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 18:39:05 No.33119972 Report

Quoted By: >>33120583

any definitive okayu builds yet, got lucky with the double gold items and fatfingered glowstick instead of fan beam when setting up the 4th collab

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 18:51:50 No.33120583 Report

Quoted By: >>33122093

>>33119972
Crit is nice for Okayu because it procs her Sensitive Voice, which basically an instakill, because you can eat the pink enemies. In that sense Sake works nice on her, even if you take damage, because of the synergy with food.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 19:21:39 No.33122093 Report

Quoted By: >>33122581 >>33122779

>>33120583
That sounds like a possible infinite path. Get to 100% crit rate with a ton of attack speed and mogu mogu.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 19:32:11 No.33122511 Report

Quoted By:

>>33117504
Is the civ etc. bonus actually shown in there?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 19:33:37 No.33122581 Report

Quoted By: >>33122779

>>33122093
I'll try to see if mogulock is possible tonight, if you don't hear from me again tell my family I miss them

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 19:34:40 No.33122629 Report

Quoted By:

>>33117908
Go to the large areas. Prioritize the wamy blast water shotgun or cutting board. Build a collab off of that and you're set. Either lets you zone the map effectively and you can get outa pinches. Don't forget to use the shop upgrades too they're intended to be bought.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 19:37:55 No.33122779 Report

Quoted By: >>33122842

>>33122093
>>33122581
Attack rate over AOE will probably be the biggest factor since you would still need to hit everything about 5 times to make sure they get charmed before they can kill you. Stuff like Elite cooking and maybe Idol Concert might be better than most

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 19:39:27 No.33122842 Report

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>>33122779
*Attack rate and AOE

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 20:01:32 No.33123735 Report

Quoted By: >>33124238

Another attempt at outrunning yagoo. 4 minutes and 30 seconds this time.
The problem is that he gets slightly faster everytime a new yagoo wave spawns.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 20:12:56 No.33124238 Report

Quoted By: >>33124574 >>33126369

I'm giving up. I got 12 haste, personal record on this patch. Still not enough. Maybe if you'll get super energy drink and glasses there is a chance, but i'm not going to grind for it. Also, it's impossible to see the fucking bubble in the sea of Yagoo. I swear it wasn't so bad previously.

>>33123735
You aren't getting exp, so Yagoo will always catch up to you.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 20:14:37 No.33124309 Report

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>>33116707
Following up after this run, Doog is also fun, but maintaining Yubi's lategame with only punching is not fun

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 20:20:00 No.33124574 Report

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>>33124238
How high was your SPD in this run?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 20:24:05 No.33124785 Report

Quoted By: >>33124826 >>33125058

>>33124574
You mean haste? 175 or 180. Not even close enough. With extra 10% from super and a few more levels maybe there was a chance. But fuck rerolling early game for super, i'm not nearly autistic enough. Maybe i'll start doing 1hp runs instead, endless runs are dead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 20:25:00 No.33124826 Report

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>>33124785
Yeah, I mean Haste.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 20:29:15 No.33125058 Report

Quoted By: >>33125094

>>33124785
Isn't SPD movement speed and haste movement speed and attack speed?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 20:29:59 No.33125094 Report

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>>33125058
SPD = movement speed
Haste = attack speed

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 20:35:33 No.33125387 Report

Quoted By: >>33125464 >>33125534 >>33126244 >>33128374

holy fuck i can not stand the waves of mobs that fly up and down how the fuck do i dodge it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 20:37:00 No.33125464 Report

Quoted By: >>33125714

>>33125387
Which stage and mobs?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 20:38:18 No.33125534 Report

Quoted By: >>33125714 >>33126260

>>33125387
Hard mode and the latter half of stage 2? You don't. They are too quick to actually react to. Stage 1 had far better waves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 20:42:15 No.33125714 Report

Quoted By: >>33125808

>>33125464
>>33125534
Stage 2 is easy enough to ignore, it's the hard mode fucking flying owl waves that rip my asshole a new one

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 20:44:07 No.33125808 Report

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>>33125714
Lifehack is to try to stay on the same level as them, and not trying to dodge. They will dodge you instead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 20:53:04 No.33126244 Report

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>>33125387
You don't
You know their path, just stand where they're going to go past rather than trying to active dodge

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 20:53:24 No.33126260 Report

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>>33125534
>They are too quick to actually react to
There is only a single spawn that is too fast to react too, and it's the sapling lanes that pop at 15:45 on hardmode. All of the rest of them can be dodged

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Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 20:55:43 No.33126369 Report

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>>33124238
>You aren't getting exp, so Yagoo will always catch up to you.
Yeah, it sucks. That's what makes it impossible to survive for long.

Here's my final attempt. At least we now know that surviving for more than 5 minutes is possible.

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Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 21:13:44 No.33127323 Report

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didn't have good RNG on haste but it still might not be possible, yagoos seem to have higher resistance to being charmed than the 20-30 minute waves

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Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 21:14:16 No.33127354 Report

Quoted By: >>33127436

may or may not be visual bug but for some reason friend is in front of the bubble (1) when it's near the bottom of broken dreams (2) but at the top hes behind it
also with super knightly milk the bubble expands making it look friend is on a circular rail rotating around mumei
200% damage to all 4 collab weapons (dreams frozen sea micomet rap dog) + feathers gave me one more second of survival against the yagoos
mumei's nuke gave me a millisecond of breathing room before the sea of yagoos flooded back in
theres just no outdamaging the yagoo horde fml

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 21:15:58 No.33127436 Report

Quoted By: >>33127652 >>33127807

>>33127354
>may or may not be visual bug but for some reason friend is in front of the bubble (1) when it's near the bottom of broken dreams (2) but at the top hes behind it
Probably because the sprites are Y-sorted

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 21:19:43 No.33127652 Report

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>>33127436
ohh i see. interesting

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 21:22:23 No.33127807 Report

Quoted By: >>33132788

>>33127436
>2023 will come and go without an opacity slider on player weapon effects so you can actually see where enemies and enemy projectiles are
It's all so tiresome

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 21:30:55 No.33128301 Report

Quoted By: >>33128484 >>33128590 >>33129695

>Suisei + 0 collabs + upgrade spam weapon + Gorilla Paw/Facemask/Energy Drink
Could it work? Could the axe alone carry a H5 run?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 21:32:08 No.33128374 Report

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>>33125387
You max out the health upgrade in the shop and just take it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 21:33:51 No.33128484 Report

Quoted By: >>33128957

>>33128301
>Gorilla Paw
Not worth because of the crit reduction

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 21:35:24 No.33128590 Report

Quoted By: >>33128957

>>33128301
A run sure I don't know if you can get the kills for gold farming though and you may want to drag out going to H5 since you'll be looking for weapons. Don't be afraid of the injection asacoco if you grab nurse horns.
Are you doing 0 collabs or zero weapons period. Water blast, cutting board, and aoe weapons to do some light group softening at least would go a good way towards success.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 21:41:13 No.33128957 Report

Quoted By: >>33129067

>>33128484
If the only weapon you care about is her axe then it's a non-issue because it has built in 100% crit chance. So now with GP+Mask+ED you're getting +100% damage and +30% haste.

>>33128590
Every collab costs you an extra 2.5k gold because it forces you to pick up another weapon which will eat up 7 levels of upgrades at some point. If you could somehow make it to 30 minutes with 0 collabs you'd stand to make an extra 10k.

>Don't be afraid of the injection asacoco if you grab nurse horns.
At that point we've lost too many weapon slots. Maybe ED should be Asacoco+Horns, that'd put us at +180% damage and +10% haste. But now we're only have 2 more slots, 1 if we count H5, so we're torn between Glasses and Chatto.

Even if this actually worked it'd be the hardest run of your life and all you'd end up doing is maybe barely edging out Mumei who just AFK'd for 30 minutes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 21:42:57 No.33129067 Report

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>>33128957
Yeah why I asked if it was for gold farming or just clearing the stage with halu 5. Not having chatto and shit bricking your items changes things a lot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 21:53:09 No.33129695 Report

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>>33128301
Probably not. Weapon scaling is still too poor in the game to carry you through anything but a basic 30M hard mode run. Adding Halu to the mix, Suisei will get overwhelmed by 25 minutes, if not sooner, because she lacks defensives, and her weapon won't scale enough to take enemies down quickly

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Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 21:53:52 No.33129741 Report

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This is my furthest endless run. With Short Height there's basically only a tiny window where you take damage and then you fully heal easily.
It's hard to tell what happens when you die, I'm guessing you just fail enough dodge checks and its game over. I had over 400 HP too. How much damage does Yagoo even do at 35 minutes?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 22:05:29 No.33130396 Report

Quoted By: >>33130590 >>33132275 >>33132450

Is Hard mode balanced around having a bunch of upgrades? Trying to do it with Korosan but it gets crazy 10 minutes in. I'm not sure what items are ideal for her, but I've just been winging it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 22:08:26 No.33130590 Report

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>>33130396
max out main and get one collab done asap

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 22:35:44 No.33132275 Report

Quoted By:

>>33130396
No characters really have "ideal" items.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 22:38:55 No.33132450 Report

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>>33130396
>Is Hard mode balanced around having a bunch of upgrades?
https://www.reddit.com/r/holocure/comments/xa7rr1/the_game_feels_a_bit_harder/io15x6a/?context=3
from kay himself
>My play testers and I play tested Stage 2 using 2 levels of ATK and SPD from the shop and special attack unlock, nothing else. That was the absolute minimum the stage expects. We did this on every character. We figured this is do-able with those bare minimum, most people SURELY has at least 2 levels in just those 2 stats by now, so it shouldn't be bad.
>G.Rank is never part of the equation for any stage, it is entirely bonus stats that no stage expects you to have.
>S1H was playtested with 5 ATK and 5 SPD as the average expected level, but some characters can go less (ex. Fubuki doesn't need 5 SPD)
you should have at least 5 ATK and SPD to tackle S1H

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Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 22:42:58 No.33132689 Report

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Well this farm run just died in disgrace for no other reason than I faceplanted into enemies. My damage output was still amazing even with just 2 upgraded collabs and an upgraded weapon. Axe was critting for 500 lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Sep 2022 22:44:35 No.33132788 Report

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>>33127807
maybe if someone gets a good clip of fighting Bae using dragon fire, bl fujoshi and idol concert with super milk he'll understand

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