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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:14:04 No.36368445 View View Reply Original Report

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:14:17 No.36368457 Report

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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:14:36 No.36368469 Report

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>>36368376
seems like a waste of money t b h

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:14:46 No.36368475 Report

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>>36368376
Because he did nothing wrong by the law
He was just lying on the internet, didn’t even mention Pekora by name afaik

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:16:06 No.36368526 Report

Quoted By: >>36368574 >>36371861 >>36373471

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *
>36,480: Pekora (Hololive)
>36,064: Beni (VSPO)
>32,331: Toya (Nijisanji)
>27,770: Botan (Hololive)
>25,413: Lize (Nijisanji)
>22,833: Subaru (Hololive)
>20,334: Koyori (Hololive)
>17,729: Patra (774 inc)
>15,004: Subaru (Hololive)
>14,927: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>14,807: Koyori (Hololive)
>14,785: Gura (Hololive)
>14,041: Hololive (Hololive)
>12,937: Fauna (Hololive)
>12,665: Fubuki (Hololive)
>12,376: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>12,292: Watame (Hololive)
>11,126: Towa (Hololive)

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:16:29 No.36368550 Report

Quoted By: >>36368607 >>36368619 >>36368648 >>36368671 >>36368702 >>36369032 >>36369145

finally, twitter likes WILL matter
nijis will be able to make a living out of that
in fact, they should stop streaming on yt and move everything there

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:16:56 No.36368561 Report

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>>36368475
>Because he did nothing wrong by the law
>He was just lying on the internet
Do your reps.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:17:14 No.36368574 Report

Quoted By: >>36368614 >>36369020

>>36368526
>NOVEMBER 2022 GOLDS
1) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,480 - Minecraft sports fes prep

>PER COMPANY
1x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
1x: Pekora

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
196x: Hololive
96x: Nijisanji
6x: Indie, Neo Porte
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
46x: Pekora
20x: Miko
17x: Aqua, Kuzuha
16x: Salome
14x: Nijisanji
13x: Subaru
9x: Marine
6x: Hal, Hololive, Kanata, Toya
5x: Fuwa, Gura, Mio, Suisei
4x: Flare, Noel, Okayu, Polka, Towa
3x: Ayame, Chloe, Choco, Korone, Koyori, Mayuzumi, Mel
2x: Ange, Botan, Fubuki, Ibrahim, Lui, Maimoto, Mito, Mori, Mysta, Nene, Nerumero, Shion, Sora, Tsukasa, Vox
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Furen, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Moona, Nagao, Naruse, Natsume, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Ui, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:17:19 No.36368579 Report

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>>36368296
>Holo Summer finally returned but with sanitized standard swimsuits for everyone
It's like in Yugioh when they errata overpowered cards so they can unban them but the nerfed version isn't worth using

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:18:06 No.36368607 Report

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>>36368550
>Niji just banned twitspaces
they can't catch a fucking break

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:18:15 No.36368614 Report

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>>36368574
>2022 SILVERS
>PER COMPANY
189x: Hololive
101x: Nijisanji
6x: VSPO
4x: Indie, Neo Porte
1x: PRISM Project

>PER STREAMER
47x: Pekora
27x: Kuzuha
25x: Miko
18x: Marine
13x: Subaru
11x: Salome, Suisei
10x: Gura, Nijisanji
7x: Hololive
6x: Fuwa, Korone, Toya
5x: Botan
4x: Fubuki, Lize
3x: Aqua, Flare, Hal, Lui
2x: Haachama, Kanae, Kanata, Koyori, Lamy, Leos, Luna, Maimoto, Mayuzumi, Noel, Shiina, Tsukasa, Tsuna, Watame
1x: Akina, Akira, Alban, Amelia, Aster, Beni, Choco, Chronoir, Debi, Ema, Gaku, Gatchman, Genzuki, Hayato, Hinano, Hololive Indonesia, Iofi, Ina, Iroha, Kaela, Kanae, Karuta, Kiara, Kronii, Laplus, Lauren, Levi, Matsuri, Mio, Mito, Moona, Nari, Nene, Okayu, Oliver, Ponpoko, Ramune, Ren, Rion, Ririmu, Risu, Ritsuki, Roboco, ROF-MAO, Rushia, Sara Nagare, Shion, Suzuya Aki, Toko, Towa, Uki, Vox, Warabeda, Yashiro, Yui

>2022 BRONZES
>PER COMPANY
196x: Hololive
94x: Nijisanji
5x: Indie, Neo Porte
2x: Noripro
1x: 774 Inc., Holostars, VSPO

>PER STREAMER
30x: Miko, Pekora, Subaru
24x: Kuzuha
15x: Marine
12x: Salome
10x: Gura
9x: Nijisanji
6x: Koyori, Toya
5x: Okayu
4x: Aqua, Botan, Chloe, Hal, Lamy, Mori, Suisei
3x: Amelia, Fubuki, Hayato, Korone, Rushia, Sasaki
2x: Choco, Fuwa, Gwelu, Hololive, Iroha, Kanata, Kiara, Kobo, Lize, Lui, Mio, Mito, Mumei, Mysta, Nijisanji English, Nui, Shiina, Shion, Tamaki, Towa, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi
1x: Aia, Aki, Ayame, AZKi, Dola, Gatchman, Haachama, Ibrahim, Ike, Kaida, Kanae, Kazaki, Kyoko, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Magni, Maimoto, Mayuzumi, Mel, Minase, Nerumero, Noel, Patra, Petra, Polka, Ponpoko, Ponto, Rikiichi, Rosemi, Ryushen, Sora, Sumire, Tsukasa, Ui, Voltaction

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:18:17 No.36368615 Report

Quoted By: >>36369001 >>36370261

>>36367561
huh

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:18:19 No.36368619 Report

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>>36368550
Damn going full Jew with Twitter huh

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:19:02 No.36368648 Report

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>>36368550
>8$ subscription
>You still get adds
Wow, that's garbage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:19:38 No.36368671 Report

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>>36368550
This is so shit. Imagine being actually able to make Twitter worse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:20:30 No.36368702 Report

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>>36368550
So you can essentially just buy a checkmark for your copycat account now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:20:58 No.36368713 Report

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>>36368648
Well have to please the advertisers. You are basically cutting their ads in half and the money goes to you first

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:22:05 No.36368759 Report

Quoted By: >>36369730

>>36368702
Yeah
Now it mean nothing
Elon literally don’t understand why that exist and why they don’t monetize it. “Muh equality” my ass

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:22:19 No.36368771 Report

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>>36368713
Could also just double the ads all the nonpaying users get.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:22:33 No.36368780 Report

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>>36368702
Of course. I'm sure the crypto and Tate bros won't just spend 8 bucks to spam their shit even harder.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:26:01 No.36368901 Report

Quoted By: >>36368934 >>36368971

>This could have been PEBOT

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:27:07 No.36368934 Report

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>>36368901
Towa's pretty good too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:28:03 No.36368971 Report

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>>36368901
i miss pet bottle

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:28:55 No.36369001 Report

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>>36368615
They should just make a fuckign site like the Koreans did.

https://wakmusic.xyz

>they changed it from Billboardoo
Lol, legal probably came after them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:29:23 No.36369020 Report

Quoted By: >>36369038 >>36369122 >>36369206 >>36369573

>>36368574
So as a Nousagi numberfag I feel that there isn't much left that is possible for Pekora to succeed with or for us to look forward to this year. Possible "wins"/records as I see it are the following:

1. Rank 1 Female streamer - Not happening due to reduced streaming time & Amouranth still being active.

2. More golds than 2021. She's currently at 46 golds, to beat 2021 she would need 24 more. Extremely unlikely.

3. 13 golds in a month, beating Gura's record from 2020. Calling this hard is an understatement. Her best so far this year is 9 golds, from this last month. Her best last year was two 9 gold months. I think it's only possible if she is consistent and the rest of the field collapses.

4. Record Peak stream. Not happening since she doesn't have an event coming up or anything that could beat out the hype that was her 2021 outfit.

5. Winning all medal categories. Unlikely but not impossible. Bronze is highly contested and hard to "aim" for, especially since she is more likely to get silver or gold than a bronze on any given day.

Of those 5 I only think the last is really possible. Pray for the bronzes fellow Nousagi, lets claim that podium sweep.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:30:01 No.36369032 Report

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>>36368550
On the positive side it will lead to booming business for verified bots!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:30:12 No.36369038 Report

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>>36369020
pathetic

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:32:14 No.36369122 Report

Quoted By: >>36369216 >>36369302 >>36369548

>>36369020
>50k median one month
Don't think she did that yet.

But yes, Amouranth has 9 mil more watch hours.
2nd place for her this year.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:32:21 No.36369128 Report

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>>36368475
>did nothing wrong by the law
>constantly defamed her
Also iirc he did mention her by name the time he said he creampied her. They could have sued his ass.
I don't know about now but afaik he just up and stopped one day and wouldn't talk shit about her even when his chat egged him on, which led some to believe Cover did threaten to sue him if he kept defaming her. I don't know if that theory has any basis in reality though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:32:23 No.36369130 Report

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>>36369032
Can you buy them with ARS?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:32:34 No.36369145 Report

Quoted By: >>36369261 >>36369306

>>36368550
kek Twitter will just get even worse

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:32:40 No.36369149 Report

Quoted By: >>36369195 >>36369285 >>36369300 >>36369464 >>36375510

Do you guys think Fauna should pander to Asian audiences? Kronii, Mumei, and Bae have a fucking strong Asian fanbase (especially Bae) but none of them watch Fauna due to timezone. I just browsed on FB group and it's full of BaeRys and Kronmei posts, none of them talk about Fauna. It's kinda sad tho.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:33:44 No.36369195 Report

Quoted By: >>36369370

>>36369149
well, fauna is doing better than all of them so maybe not

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:34:01 No.36369206 Report

Quoted By: >>36369279 >>36369308

>>36369020
i doubt your a nousagi i would never want a bronze for pekora lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:34:22 No.36369216 Report

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>>36369122
50k median is mental unless she does an aqua or marine and streams like 5 times spread over the month.
Another one might be every stream over 30k, and having like 20 streams.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:35:23 No.36369261 Report

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>>36369145
it's musk, what do you expect?

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:35:54 No.36369279 Report

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>>36369206
She already wins gold and silver
Might as well flex a bit and win bronze as well

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:36:00 No.36369282 Report

Quoted By: >>36369332 >>36369383

Why do you guys even care about watchtime or CCV when it's only relevant on Twitch where they can play midstream ads?

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:36:06 No.36369285 Report

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>>36369149
nope, asians can't squeeb.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:36:24 No.36369300 Report

Quoted By: >>36369543

>>36369149
what she really needs it's someone to act as waiting room for her to strenghten the funnel into the rest of holoEN.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:36:25 No.36369302 Report

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>>36369122
Impossible
Even for Pekora, she still need really strong buff to reach 50k, let alone 50k median for one month
The level of incline she need to achieve that is insane. Or she will have to strategically cut down her number of stream, only stream ultra buff games and with perfect schedule to avoid losing presences. The only month where this might be possible is her anniversary month

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:36:28 No.36369306 Report

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>>36369145
Good. Elon is doing a great job so far.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:36:28 No.36369308 Report

Quoted By: >>36369570

>>36369206
doubt all you want, but I don't watch or member anyone but pekora. Podium sweep would just the sweet, the shit posting images would be endless.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:36:32 No.36369313 Report

Quoted By: >>36369392

Holobronies seething UH
They hoes get no money UH
They fans be poor SEAs UH

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:36:57 No.36369324 Report

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bots

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:37:08 No.36369332 Report

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>>36369282
because ccv is just easy to track and race. Watch hours on another hand is a meme metric

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:38:14 No.36369370 Report

Quoted By: >>36369553 >>36369557

>>36369195
Yeah, but Fauna still has the potential to gain more viewers. She can be even more stronger with Asian fanbase.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:38:38 No.36369383 Report

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>>36369282
Well say what you want but that is about the only number we have the is related to stream. VOD number after the initial number might as well be a different number altogether with different way of counting

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:38:54 No.36369392 Report

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>>36369313
he makes all this money, yet he's unhappy.
so i laugh at these numbers

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:40:48 No.36369464 Report

Quoted By: >>36375344

>>36369149
No Fauna's SC revenue and other metrics point to the fact that her audience is vastly NA viewers. She is unique in EN in that she has surprisingly little pull outside of NA and yet she does well.

I think shifting her content to focus on more asian appeal would be a mistake and might filter some of her existing audience.
What she really needs is something that makes her stand out. Like a huge moment or meme. The people that watch her like her she just has extremely little tourist appeal so getting new viewers is a slow process.
She's not gonna get tourists if "Fauna in a cow biniki" is the best she can offer

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:41:00 No.36369471 Report

Quoted By: >>36369508 >>36369527 >>36369683 >>36369738 >>36370075

Redpill me on VSPO
WHy are they inclining so fast?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:41:53 No.36369508 Report

Quoted By: >>36369622

>>36369471
they are not selling their ideals to pander a market that doesn't belong to them, they are creating their own brand

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:42:28 No.36369527 Report

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>>36369471
They offer a niche that Nijisanji has forsaken/lost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:42:40 No.36369537 Report

Quoted By: >>36369707

Wait, but what does high SC indicate again?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:42:47 No.36369543 Report

Quoted By: >>36369739 >>36369827

>>36369300
Before Ina died the usual cycle (assuming there were actually streams) was Ina > Fauna > Gura > the 11 ET/8 PT slot (could be anyone). No idea how much of a funnel if any she got from Ina though, Takos are pretty loyal.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:42:50 No.36369548 Report

Quoted By: >>36369735

>>36369122
Checking numbers, Pokimane has 11.8mil so far
https://twitchtracker.com/pokimane/statistics
ironmouse has 18.9 milion, saddummy 13 mil, even Shylily has 10.3M
Valkyrae has... who the fuck knows?

So that puts, so far
1. Amouranth - 28.7M
2. Pekora - 19M (will get fucked by SH)
3. Ironmouse - 18.9M
4. Valkyrae ?
5. Miko - 16.4M

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:42:53 No.36369553 Report

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>>36369370
And how would she get that without alienating her current western fanbase? She would need to stream later than her current slot and would end up competing in the already fucked timeslot were the rest of Council sits.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:43:04 No.36369557 Report

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>>36369370
She streams at like 7 AM. How would you "get more Asians" without changing your timezone? Should she start wearing a coolie hat png and start making Uncle Roger references? Dogwhistle that she likes Genshin?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:43:33 No.36369570 Report

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>>36369308
lol yeah have fun dealing with recline shitpost as she has to get 9x bronze consecutively to beat that

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:43:36 No.36369573 Report

Quoted By: >>36369691 >>36369736 >>36369934

>>36369020
>So as a Nousagi numberfag
>Start talking shit about Gura again
4 millions >>>>>>>>> shitty 2 millions
194K>>>>>>shitty 187k
>buut death subs
>194k doesn't count
keep seething nousagi keks

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:44:33 No.36369622 Report

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>>36369508
>a market that doesn't belong to them
which is?

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:46:15 No.36369683 Report

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>>36369471
>fast
They've been inclining for like 1.5 years now.
Hell, they're actually recovering from a bit of a slump, as Apex content has been dead since May and Valo is trash.

Also, THE BOX (TM)
They build a pretty strong group and brand by now, so even former runts like 3 view Beni can run for gold now with event content.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:46:30 No.36369691 Report

Quoted By: >>36369806 >>36369878

>>36369573
>Not a single Gura mention in post
>Muh Gura
Which fanbase should I call you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:46:54 No.36369707 Report

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>>36369537
The amount of SCs that someone receives.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:47:16 No.36369730 Report

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>>36368759
>Now it mean nothing
Now it means you're willing to stand for what you publish.
Before it just meant you were willing to suck woke cock.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:47:19 No.36369735 Report

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>>36369548
on the bright side for numberfags the only person that beat Peko was the woman who is essentially a streamer prostitute that got those numbers from being pimped out by her husband.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:47:20 No.36369736 Report

Quoted By: >>36369806 >>36369932

>>36369573
>no mention of gura
>STOP SHITTALKING GURA WAAAAAAH
Why are cumpedos so insecure?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:47:21 No.36369738 Report

Quoted By: >>36370269

>>36369471
They realized that building a box around certain theme can do wonders

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:47:21 No.36369739 Report

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>>36369543
yeah when i got back to holo as EU i went into the pipeline kiara then jp then ina. now is fauna. with a couple of chuubas between 21gmt and old ina slot might strenghten the whole downstream for EOP and ESL

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:49:01 No.36369806 Report

Quoted By: >>36369946

>>36369691
>>36369736
>Not a single Gura mention in post
>post says "beating Gura's record from 2020"
NTA but read better next time

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:49:34 No.36369827 Report

Quoted By: >>36369950 >>36370051

>>36369543
She used to get a moderate funnel. The problem was they only started one hour apart so Fauna could very well be 2-3 hours into her stream when Ina ended and people not really inclined to join a stream that's almost over. Worked best when Ina just streamed like 2 or 2 and a half hours.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:50:59 No.36369878 Report

Quoted By: >>36369932

>>36369691
>3. 13 golds in a month, beating Gura's record from 2020. Calling this hard is an understatement.
194k>>>>>> shitty 187k
4 million >>>shitty 2 millions
>> muuh deads subs
>>194k doesn't count
>> i can stream more than you
>>still plushie break and destroy every record
I'm waiting for the daki now

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:51:22 No.36369892 Report

Quoted By: >>36369953 >>36369971 >>36370118 >>36370377 >>36371061

What happened to Noel? Her last +10k was september 13th.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:52:28 No.36369932 Report

Quoted By: >>36369992

>>36369736
>nousagifags can't read:
>>36369878

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:52:29 No.36369934 Report

Quoted By: >>36370091

>>36369573
Christ, you're more likely than anything a nijinig or bored baiter out of your mind, but I'll entain you. I didn't talk shit about her once, I even acknowledged that she has the record for number of golds in a month and it would be extremely hard to beat. Or did you have a hard time reading or don't you understand that is a compliment in itself?
And you do realize record stream means Pekora's record stream right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:52:53 No.36369946 Report

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>>36369806
>Reading comprehension: 0
Explain how simply stating that Gura is the one she need to beat to get new record “shitting on Gura”, if anything that is an acknowledgement of Gura achievement
I am waiting for your logical explanation

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:52:56 No.36369950 Report

Quoted By: >>36370043

>>36369827
I'm being reminded of how Tempus' back-to-back 1 hour streams was actually a really good idea.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:53:00 No.36369953 Report

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>>36369892
Zelda

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:53:38 No.36369971 Report

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>>36369892
No delivery

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:54:06 No.36369984 Report

Quoted By: >>36370835

Based HACHI
https://twitter.com/8hachi_hacchi/status/1587509154520109057

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:54:17 No.36369992 Report

Quoted By: >>36370052

>>36369932
So cumpedos are just insecure then if they see that as shittalking. Good, that's settled.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:55:41 No.36370043 Report

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>>36369950
For debut, maybe. To do it for too long, like Salome, isn't good. Also if you aren't really going to stream in that timezone it's sort of pointless to build up a fanbase in NA primetime only to swap to JP time after 3 weeks.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:55:51 No.36370051 Report

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>>36369827
Not really much that can be done about that unless they started capping their stream times like early Tempus. At least since Ina streams were usually on the shorter side she'd pretty much always end a fair bit before Gura ate some of the viewers.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:55:51 No.36370052 Report

Quoted By: >>36370097

>>36369992
Have you been samefagging for almost a whole hour?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:56:13 No.36370068 Report

Quoted By: >>36370318

We are really bored aren’t we?

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:56:18 No.36370075 Report

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>>36369471
Nijisanji alienated a lot of fans who watch Holos too but Vspo didn't.
Vspo girls also are entertaining and they don't become accessories when they collab with men.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:56:41 No.36370087 Report

Quoted By: >>36370131 >>36370168 >>36370220 >>36370262 >>36370381 >>36370854

Chumsisters, Nousisters, what went wrong? Why are we so poor that even a 3view niji beats us?

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:56:42 No.36370091 Report

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>>36369934
You started the holo vs holo in the moment you post nousagifag is better than gura. Now you got this:
194k>>>>>shitty 187k
4millions>>>>shitty 2 millions
Next time you don't post the name

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:56:51 No.36370097 Report

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>>36370052
Seems like it. "guy arguing about Gura/Pekora/Koyori/Fauna" is just background noise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:56:54 No.36370099 Report

Quoted By: >>36370140 >>36370169

How are nousagis still falling for Gura vs pekora bait to this day. I thought you all figured out it was bait eons ago

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:57:25 No.36370118 Report

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>>36369892
Probably because she focuses on her other more lucrative businesses.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:57:29 No.36370121 Report

Quoted By: >>36370186 >>36370357

>holo vs holo timeloop
>gura vs pekora timeloop

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:57:48 No.36370131 Report

Quoted By:

>>36370087
The power of saviorfags.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:58:01 No.36370140 Report

Quoted By: >>36370271

>>36370099
It's the guy responding to his own posts to try and attract real people to the process.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:58:56 No.36370168 Report

Quoted By:

>>36370087
Power of getting USD SC instead of Yen SC
Is the Yen still falling?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:58:56 No.36370169 Report

Quoted By:

>>36370099
It's one (1) retard samefagging

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 18:59:21 No.36370186 Report

Quoted By:

>>36370121
>SC Timeloop

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:00:22 No.36370220 Report

Quoted By: >>36370835 >>36371296

>>36370087
SC is old news. Gifted memberships are all the rage now.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:01:30 No.36370259 Report

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Friday we are saved enbros trust

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:01:31 No.36370261 Report

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>>36368615
Part of why music views are down. There is way too much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:01:35 No.36370262 Report

Quoted By: >>36370363

>>36370087
SCARLE-SAMA... I KNEEL...
THE NEW QUEEN OF EN VTUBERS

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:01:41 No.36370269 Report

Quoted By: >>36370346 >>36370350

>>36369738
what theme is that?

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:01:47 No.36370271 Report

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>>36370140
nah, I posted the original and 1 reply to the schizo post. The rest might be one fucker same fagging or a bored nigger.
Jesus fucking Allah in the ass if I know which it is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:03:11 No.36370318 Report

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>>36370068
For me, I'm gonna take a nap and listen to Luna

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:03:45 No.36370346 Report

Quoted By:

>>36370269
Cute and entertaining girls shooting shit in FPS competently

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:03:56 No.36370350 Report

Quoted By:

>>36370269
Playing awful dead games.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:03:57 No.36370354 Report

Quoted By: >>36370382

Here's a question, if you're a mid to low tier vtuber with a minor event coming up, would you rather have people stream all day before you with them ending before or shortly into your stream, or would you rather have the entire schedule empty so people are desperate to watch anything by the time you stream?

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:03:59 No.36370357 Report

Quoted By:

>>36370121
Nijiturds can't even be used as bait material anymore, sad.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:04:19 No.36370363 Report

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>>36370262
GURA WHO? kek

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:04:44 No.36370371 Report

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:04:56 No.36370377 Report

Quoted By: >>36370564

>>36369892
showing nip is more profitable

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:05:13 No.36370381 Report

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>>36370087
20k of that was outfit reveal
https://playboard.co/en/video/UQaaVNk89b0

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:05:13 No.36370382 Report

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>>36370354
The first one obviously?

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:05:47 No.36370405 Report

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:08:07 No.36370490 Report

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:08:56 No.36370521 Report

Quoted By: >>36370717 >>36370792 >>36370852 >>36371054

That remind me, HoloEN don’t really have a hardcore SC farmer right? They are all kind of mid compare to professional like Rushia
Since the SC chart use USD, having an EN SC farmer would be more advantageous to compete

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:09:09 No.36370533 Report

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:09:56 No.36370564 Report

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>>36370377
Well what do you think? Sex sell, Marine already show it

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:13:28 No.36370706 Report

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:13:50 No.36370717 Report

Quoted By: >>36370792 >>36371064

>>36370521
Kiara, though she's not as high as she used to be these days. Also yurop taxes.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:14:32 No.36370749 Report

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:15:41 No.36370786 Report

Quoted By: >>36370975

>Bae got punished for leeching too much that she forgot her own fanbase.
>Mumei got punished for being a clickbaiter and now people don't find her streams interesting anymore.
>Kronii got punished for being a lazy whore.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:15:44 No.36370792 Report

Quoted By:

>>36370521
>>36370717
Not to diminish her ~$1.4M, but Kiara doesn't farm SC the same way Chloe or Rushia did. Wish we knew the breakdown on premium, ad rev, SC, and merch. Might explain a lot of behavior that seems nonsensical

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:16:56 No.36370835 Report

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>>36370220
>>36369984
Again, Hachi had over 700 gifted memberships for today's stream.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:17:06 No.36370842 Report

Quoted By: >>36370932 >>36371141

This is Hololive English channel. This should be used to show JP HQ how short sited the EN management are. It grows if you do stuff. No shit.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:17:12 No.36370852 Report

Quoted By:

>>36370521
the closest is probably Irys since she does the whole 5 hours of SC reading thing. Which you could argue is a form of farming
I doubt we'll really see that from an EN because the current talent already reprioritize SC so much

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:17:16 No.36370854 Report

Quoted By: >>36370966

>>36370087
I am still 100% baffled how Scarle became such a high SC earner, it seriously makes zero sense whatsoever

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:18:38 No.36370900 Report

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:19:25 No.36370932 Report

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>>36370842
The fact Fauna has to beg her audience to like the videos to prove it's a good idea to management is so baffling

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:19:41 No.36370944 Report

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:20:13 No.36370966 Report

Quoted By: >>36371104

>>36370854
Saviorfag is one hell of a force
It’s funny because even if all your other number are shit you can still become an SC emperor thanks to saviorfag. Actually low number attract them

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:20:21 No.36370975 Report

Quoted By: >>36371208 >>36371250

>>36370786
If Mumei went back to doing her random streams instead of playing Overwatch all the time she'd probably incline some again. She kneecapped her draw Hololive streams too by obsessing over offending the JPs with cursed drawings.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:20:55 No.36370991 Report

Quoted By: >>36371063 >>36371220 >>36371228

>>36370932
Timestamp?

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:22:14 No.36371044 Report

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:22:30 No.36371054 Report

Quoted By: >>36371197

>>36370521
>professional like Rushia

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:22:41 No.36371061 Report

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>>36369892
she should drop the shit games

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:22:46 No.36371063 Report

Quoted By: >>36371124 >>36371199 >>36371220 >>36371228

>>36370991
NTA but it was in her member stream. She asked everyone to please like and leave a comment to prove to management that they can do things like this and it'll work.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:22:46 No.36371064 Report

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>>36370717
>Also yurop taxes
Holy shit, the Austrians have up to 55% in direct income tax alone. No wonder that country generates so many crazies.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:23:18 No.36371081 Report

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:23:45 No.36371104 Report

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>>36370966
Yeah that and unironic groomers. It's easier with small chuubas once their livelihood depends on your patronage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:24:14 No.36371115 Report

Quoted By: >>36371253

why do we suddenly care about superchats when you need to multiply them by 0.35 to get the real value the talents get, and that's not even including taxes?

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:24:20 No.36371118 Report

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:24:26 No.36371124 Report

Quoted By: >>36371352

>>36371063
Didn't she also say that she didn't get to see any of the drawings before the video was published?

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:24:44 No.36371141 Report

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>>36370842
There are so few videos on the official channel that you barely need to scroll, and almost half the videos are just teasers for new gens. Of course it doesn't get a lot of subscribers. Maybe these lowers numbers are a blessing in disguise and EN management will finally need to start doing some work after costing off of Myth's initial popularity for two years.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:25:25 No.36371165 Report

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:26:10 No.36371197 Report

Quoted By: >>36372188

>>36371054
I mean, Rushia was pretty professional except for whenever she wasn't. She had consistent content and she was good at what she was doing i.e., SC farming. Randomly timed career breaking outbursts are just part of the menhera package sadly.
NTA btw

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:26:13 No.36371199 Report

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>>36371063
Sometimes I wonder if it’s even possible for EN management to be as incompetent as they come off as, or if maybe they just have impossibly bad PR skills

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:26:25 No.36371208 Report

Quoted By:

>>36370975
Yeah, she still has the power to bait tourists.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:26:43 No.36371220 Report

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>>36370991
https://youtu.be/mpdQxyCvFME?t=5697
Her member stream like >>36371063 mentioned too

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:26:55 No.36371228 Report

Quoted By: >>36371483

>>36371063
She mentioned it at the end of the mortuary stream yesterday too

>>36370991
https://youtu.be/mpdQxyCvFME?t=5694

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:27:24 No.36371250 Report

Quoted By: >>36371406 >>36371459 >>36371664

>>36370975
Honestly I think she got talked to about that Pekora one. We know she doesn't like the ogey image. I don't know if it was Pekora who didn't like it or someone at Cover didn't want that image out there but it just looked like she started stressing bout it after making that one.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:27:29 No.36371253 Report

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>>36371115
Isn't it even less than 0.35 as VAT is included in the SC price tag?

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:27:33 No.36371255 Report

Quoted By: >>36371612 >>36371668 >>36372061

I think the entire EN scene is currently reclining
even Gura was getting awful numbers yesterday

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:28:23 No.36371296 Report

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>>36370220
this is such a retarded narrative when nene got more gifts this month than any other holo and they total up to $16k if they were all in usd (much likely the figure is lower because jpy and nt$ memberships are cheaper), compared to her $34k in superchats
pretty sure haachama is the only holo who made more from gifts than sc

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:28:39 No.36371306 Report

Quoted By: >>36371657 >>36371669 >>36377951

what happened to HoloEarth??

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:29:23 No.36371337 Report

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Not even 300k views for a 5h Gura VOD. It's the beginning of the end isn't it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:29:40 No.36371352 Report

Quoted By: >>36371627

>>36371124
She said she saw it about an hr or 2 before the release.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:30:40 No.36371406 Report

Quoted By: >>36371444 >>36371503 >>36371551 >>36372357

>>36371250
Why does peko not like ogey?

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:31:34 No.36371444 Report

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>>36371406
Because she thinks it looks ugly

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:32:03 No.36371459 Report

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>>36371250
but it's cute though.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:32:31 No.36371483 Report

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>>36371228
This is the point where I have to admit that I'm a coward who didn't watch it cause I'm bad with horror.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:32:50 No.36371503 Report

Quoted By: >>36371559 >>36371560 >>36371564 >>36376489

>>36371406
It's not cute. Girls want moe chibi and not retarded edit that looks like a monkey

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:33:52 No.36371551 Report

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>>36371406
She's the hero of children, what sort of hero would have nazi extremist meme connected to her image?

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:34:08 No.36371559 Report

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>>36371503
>Pekora hates Jill-kun because he reminds her of that ogey

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:34:13 No.36371560 Report

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>>36371503
A MONKEY?

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:34:19 No.36371564 Report

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>>36371503
>not cute
ngmi

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:35:15 No.36371612 Report

Quoted By: >>36371645 >>36371678

>>36371255
everything is reclining a bit but the bad numbers from yesterday was because everyone but the most die hard chumbuds were filtered by the game when there's a boomei stream and a mortuary assistant stream going on. The chat was almost completely green by the end.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:35:32 No.36371627 Report

Quoted By: >>36371867

>>36371352
So management tells Fauna to write a story
Then tells the characters to record their lines, without any direction
Then lobs the collected parts off to some third-party to patch it together

The outcome is astounding considering how much EN management fucking sucks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:36:03 No.36371645 Report

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>>36371612
Don't forget that yesterday was a holiday that draws people out of the house. But alas, context is cope.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:36:16 No.36371657 Report

Quoted By: >>36371744

>>36371306
They posted some updates last month I think.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:36:21 No.36371664 Report

Quoted By: >>36371800

>>36371250
It might have not actually been anyone but Mumei herself. Mumei has shown that she will get randomly nervous about offending people even if it is just about small things. The dan dan situation is another example. People make rrats about Cover forcing the changes, but according to Mumei herself she's the one who pulled it.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:36:31 No.36371668 Report

Quoted By: >>36372662

>>36371255
debuff games exist

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:36:31 No.36371669 Report

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>>36371306
Don't you see Cover corp Twitter posting job advert everywhere

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:36:54 No.36371678 Report

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>>36371612
>everything is reclining
this should've been all your post

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:37:57 No.36371720 Report

Quoted By: >>36371917 >>36371932

"Leeching" works. I thought Fauna was the worst Council on debut but she interacted with my oshi (Gura) for so long I got exposed to more and more of her good traits to the point where I tune in and watch her.
No wonder beggers of all companies and genders seethe so much about Gura walling herself off within Hololive, or the other girls doing similar things.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:38:05 No.36371731 Report

Quoted By: >>36371927

I thought Gura's minimum VOD views were supposed to be 300k? Is the minimum now 200k?

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:38:21 No.36371744 Report

Quoted By: >>36372127

>>36371657
Where? All the main channels last mentioned the project back in Mars.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:39:11 No.36371772 Report

Quoted By: >>36371824 >>36371941

Vtuber is dying and you can't deny it. It's a matter of time until Cover announced mass graduation or sell their stocks to D*sney

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:39:14 No.36371775 Report

Quoted By: >>36371965 >>36372237 >>36372240

Youtube algorithm is really whack nowadays, it will recommend my 2-100 viewer(not ccv) channels.
Today I got literal walmart Mori

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:39:53 No.36371800 Report

Quoted By: >>36371933 >>36372374

>>36371664
Yea didn't she say she did that because she saw people connecting completely unrelated events to it? I thought it was the shopping cart scene but she kept that in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:40:22 No.36371824 Report

Quoted By: >>36371846 >>36371963

>>36371772
>*EN Vtubing is dying
fixed

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:40:56 No.36371846 Report

Quoted By: >>36372343

>>36371824
Thank God for that

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:41:14 No.36371861 Report

Quoted By: >>36372003

>>36368526
Is minecraft still buff or no,? coz that's incredibly low compared to rust

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:41:26 No.36371867 Report

Quoted By: >>36372677

>>36371627
More like Fauna asked to do this and have Management get the artist while she does the writing.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:42:30 No.36371917 Report

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>>36371720
But why it doesn't work for Bae?

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:42:44 No.36371927 Report

Quoted By: >>36372076

>>36371731
They've been sagging lately but it has never ever been a minimum of 300k. Maybe an average?

Here's a few old examples of sub 300ks:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztBs-2I6AMw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NytRuJWwU-w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ty_w5XDmFmE

Amusingly, the oldest one I could find, from literal peak Myth...just ticked 300k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULl8ST69598&t=3838s

Anyway, just like her floor is 10k, you can still find examples for sub 10k CCV streams, and you can still find examples of sub 300k VODs. I'd say Unholy Trinity is doing particularly bad for her channel's standards since it's 5 (five!) fucking hours. But I guess it was debuff enough to generate minimal churn.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:42:47 No.36371932 Report

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>>36371720
she never relied on gura to incline

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:42:49 No.36371933 Report

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>>36371800
Mumei didn't even see it when she played the video. She could have thought it was a reference to buffalo at first but then realized it was fine after thinking it over

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:42:50 No.36371934 Report

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Gura is going to have a minimum of 100k VOD views next year at this rate.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:42:56 No.36371941 Report

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>>36371772
Or facebook buys out cover for their VR tech.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:43:27 No.36371963 Report

Quoted By:

>>36371824

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:43:29 No.36371965 Report

Quoted By: >>36372111 >>36372680

>>36371775
>algo: this user likes to watch big vtubers
>lets recommend random microscopic chuubas then
>wow he doesnt like it, maybe he isnt interested in watching vtuber anymore!
>retarded algo stops recomending vtubers completely
rate it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:43:37 No.36371971 Report

Quoted By: >>36372255

grim gang status?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:44:27 No.36372003 Report

Quoted By:

>>36371861
Holorust is tourist central

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:45:40 No.36372061 Report

Quoted By: >>36372180 >>36372354 >>36372371 >>36372662

>>36371255
>even Gura was getting awful numbers yesterday
Debuff numbers have always looked like this for Gura.

Post 2020 and first few months of 2021, Gura waxes and wanes in numbers. here, let me show you the OG GRIM shitposting streak about Gura's numbers, back when /#/ did not exist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:45:58 No.36372076 Report

Quoted By: >>36372169 >>36372180

>>36371927
Anon, I appreciate your effortpost but you really shouldn't entertain the one or two people samefagging

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:46:41 No.36372111 Report

Quoted By:

>>36371965
shit/out of street
thank you Alphabet Company Pajeet

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:47:00 No.36372127 Report

Quoted By:

>>36371744
It was just a minor teaser about a graphics update on the You twitter. Not a real update i guess I just remembered seeing them tweet it.

https://twitter.com/you_kururu/status/1569568021144047616

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:47:43 No.36372163 Report

Quoted By:

Guess the vtuber
>lowest vod 20k

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:47:50 No.36372169 Report

Quoted By: >>36372450

>>36372076
I'll entertain anyone that might be genuine. I'll ignore shit like
>KEKZAOO WHORE RELCINING
And it's no doubt that recent VODs are kind of in a slump (except Shobon which went the way of Duolingo).

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:48:06 No.36372180 Report

Quoted By:

>>36372076
Eh, it's better for someone to effortpost during quiet hours, and as >>36372061 pointed out a lot of it predates /#/ so you could miss it even if you've lurked for the past year.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:48:14 No.36372188 Report

Quoted By: >>36372335

>>36371197
no, let's just not go there
stop normalizing this shit

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:49:38 No.36372237 Report

Quoted By:

>>36371775
yeah, i got her too.

AI likes Mori.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:49:46 No.36372240 Report

Quoted By:

>>36371775
i got that cover suggested to me few hours ago, i do extensive rep on holomusic while neglecting every mori work under the sun.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:50:11 No.36372255 Report

Quoted By: >>36372506

>>36371971
winning

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:52:05 No.36372335 Report

Quoted By: >>36372672

>>36372188
stop this LARP, nobody went bankrupt over vtubers ever

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:52:17 No.36372343 Report

Quoted By: >>36372403

>>36371846
Sometimes this thread feels more like an EN anti thread than a numbers thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:52:35 No.36372354 Report

Quoted By: >>36372454

>>36372061
It's amazing seeing how people still beg her to play metroid sometimes seeing how much of a debuff it was.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:52:36 No.36372357 Report

Quoted By: >>36372567 >>36372640

>>36371406
I think she took that meme as people making fun of her model and we know Pekora do not joke around with her model
Took her a whole year and 20 scrapped outfit to finally get one that she thing is usable and fit her

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:53:00 No.36372371 Report

Quoted By: >>36372683 >>36372782

>>36372061
You don't even need to go that far back, just look at the beginning of this year. Shit like Apotheon, Serious Sam, Mordhau (against bots), and Bully.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:53:03 No.36372374 Report

Quoted By: >>36372732

>>36371800
The "Challenger" part. It was based on a SpaceX launch failure. Almost nobody recognized it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:53:44 No.36372403 Report

Quoted By:

>>36372343
is one of the last effective timeloop

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:53:50 No.36372408 Report

Quoted By: >>36372808

Anyway, since its dead hours.

Is this the strongest EN japanese clip channel?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:55:01 No.36372450 Report

Quoted By: >>36372582

>>36372169
It's funny that shobon is still growing. I really thought she was going to give up at the bullet hell part but I think her finishing it really helped it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:55:04 No.36372454 Report

Quoted By: >>36372782 >>36372795

>>36372354
Yeah, she may not actively chase numbers but she's fairly in tune with what her audience wants usually. It baffles me to see people begging her to stream Sunbreak when she brings it up, people aren't gonna watch it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:56:21 No.36372506 Report

Quoted By: >>36372697 >>36378741

>>36372255
are you happy though?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:57:48 No.36372567 Report

Quoted By: >>36372649

>>36372357
She just thinks it's ugly because the big eyes are weird and gross.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:58:17 No.36372582 Report

Quoted By:

>>36372450
Makes me think she might be able to pull some nice numbers with Undertale

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:59:33 No.36372640 Report

Quoted By: >>36372695 >>36373417

>>36372357
I think Pekora may be the most serious vtuber in the world. I've noticed in EN even Gura refers to Gura as something else like when she talks about upgrades or animation. Like she sees Gura as a vehicle she drives. Pekora seems to see Pekora as herself.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 19:59:46 No.36372649 Report

Quoted By:

>>36372567
ironic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:00:03 No.36372662 Report

Quoted By: >>36372913

>>36371668
>>36372061
>debuff
It wasn't a debuff for Pomu but ok chumkek. I guess everything can be excused as debuff when you're reclining. Was the sub 25k handcam a debuff too?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:00:22 No.36372672 Report

Quoted By:

>>36372335
>missing the entire point

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:00:28 No.36372677 Report

Quoted By:

>>36371867
No Management approached Fauna.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:00:33 No.36372680 Report

Quoted By:

>>36371965
I belieb. No, seriously, it's happening with basically every other assorted interest wandering through my recommended, which is extra cancer for tech since way too much of the small channel stuff is actual bullshit. It's also throwing in random 3-10 year old videos from my subs.

It might also explain why song numbers are falling through the floor - instead of shilling stuff actually related and good, it's either peddling 3vods (shit's happening with Vocaloid songs too) or pushing personal recommendations completely unrelated to what you're currently watching.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:00:34 No.36372683 Report

Quoted By:

>>36372371
It's a shame Serious Sam didn't perform well. That was so fun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:00:49 No.36372695 Report

Quoted By:

>>36372640
?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:00:50 No.36372697 Report

Quoted By: >>36372845

>>36372506
https://youtu.be/GpBFOJ3R0M4

>I'm only happy when it rains
>I'm only happy when it's complicated
>And though I know you can't appreciate it
>I'm only happy when it rains…

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:01:23 No.36372718 Report

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Hey guys, I composed a short list of finished holo RPG fanagmes in English!
https://nanase.itch.io/the-holy-radiant-maze
https://zkfie.itch.io/holo-dungeon
https://avraxas.itch.io/holoquest
https://okamiakarutsuki.itch.io/dream-labirynth
https://ryjael.itch.io/smok-legend-of-the-laid-back-heroes
https://murmyuri.itch.io/holotempus-fan-game
Most of them are mediocre at worst and have multiple hours of content in them! Sadly art is on lower side in nearly all of them
Of course there's bunch of them more in JP and Thai but no point in posting them there

Bonus:
https://twitter.com/dumbbitcasserol/status/1577360896019791873

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:01:50 No.36372732 Report

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>>36372374
Cause no one pays attention to current events outside of huge tragedies they can use to own someone.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:03:23 No.36372782 Report

Quoted By:

>>36372454
>she's fairly in tune with what her audience wants usually
Except this one time she went off the reservation with debuff games like >>36372371 said.

I feel like I've wasted my life since I remember arguing with anons about IRREPARABLE RECLINE when they saw these numbers, same fucking shit ignoring debuff content as today. Where did 10 months go?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:03:51 No.36372795 Report

Quoted By: >>36372996

>>36372454
I honestly think half the people begging are just doing it for the lolshefellforit shit. I can't believe people really want her to play some of those games and are willing to watch it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:04:05 No.36372808 Report

Quoted By: >>36372871

>>36372408
>現状ののAIイラスト
This guy is just putting shit through deepl isn't he. The titles are giving me heavy JSL vibes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:05:14 No.36372845 Report

Quoted By:

>>36372697
Wouldn't this fit the grim mood better?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeThlAx1q-8

>I love to see you crying.
>So happy when you're sad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:06:00 No.36372871 Report

Quoted By:

>>36372808
I dunno man, I don't speak moonrunes. I myself go to those channels and deepl JOP comments to see what they think of EN. It's really just an endless series of "s-so cute", mostly.

But even if he is, it seems to be working.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:07:11 No.36372913 Report

Quoted By:

>>36372662
>Handcam
Ogey

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:09:00 No.36372980 Report

Quoted By: >>36373114

Honestly guys, we all know that this is this thread's theme
https://youtu.be/LjgW24ozWP0?t=115

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:09:18 No.36372996 Report

Quoted By:

>>36372795
Chumbies tend to be huge "I'll watch you do anything", if a game's name left her lips they want to see her play it. And true enough 10k of the fuckers will show up for anything. It's the casual numbers that fuck off for these.
Only thinks chumbies ever stood up to Gura on was Pony L2D, Tiktoks and Twitch. Twitch discussion was also the source of the closest Gura has gone from being [covertly based] about just ghosting ecelebs to being openly based, since she told chumbies to simmer the fuck down about Twitch, she'll just use the platform, not collab with people from it ("I have no interest in collabing outside of hololive", paraphrasing). And it never happened anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:11:27 No.36373060 Report

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So with the start of the new APEX season i guess we know what Kuzuha will playing today if he streams

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:12:50 No.36373114 Report

Quoted By: >>36373190

>>36372980
WTF? I'm subbed to him, have the bell and yet YT didn't notify me of this? SUSAAAAAAAAN
Great song, it's a pity that it only got noticed by half his subs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:14:53 No.36373190 Report

Quoted By: >>36374321

>>36373114
That’s one funny thing. YouTube almost always notify me of life streams but almost never of uploaded videos.
Does it even do that? I never got a notification for when Haachama used to upload shitposts

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:17:51 No.36373300 Report

Quoted By: >>36373385 >>36373433 >>36373823 >>36375062

>top 4 holoENs are the ones that never did a collab with tempus
uh, this is just a coincidence, right?

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:18:41 No.36373324 Report

Quoted By:

I find it incredible the traction this simple choreography got.
People misunderstood the success of this, it didn’t came from the coombaiting scenes among men but from this and among women
https://twitter.com/naota0048/status/1554400248910344192

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:19:54 No.36373366 Report

Quoted By: >>36373411 >>36373605 >>36373615

>25. Aia Amare - $13,132
>9. Scarle Yonaguni - $26,963

>23. Takane Lui - $12,801
>24. Ouro Kronii - $12,502
>25. Shirogane Noel - $11,381
>26. Nanashi Mumei - $9,119
>27. Watson Amelia - $8,730
>28. Kureiji Ollie - $8,158
>29. Natsuiro Matsuri - $8,115
>30. Oozora Subaru - $8,101
>31. Yozora Mel - $7,617
>32. Minato Aqua - $7,285
>33. Vestia Zeta - $7,118
>34. Laplus Darknesss - $6,678
>35. Omaru Polka - $6,546
>36. Aki Rosenthal - $6,313
>37. Shishiro Botan - $5,721
>38. Pavolia Reine - $5,085
>39. Tokino Sora - $5,071
>40. Murasaki Shion - $4,783
>41. Kobo Kanaeru - $3,946
>42. Kazama Iroha - $3,945
>43. Ookami Mio - $3,848
>44. Akai Haato - $3,631
>45. Ninomae Ina'nis - $3,235
>46. Moona Hoshinova - $3,062
>47. AZKi - $2,546
>48. Airani Iofifteen - $2,114
>49. Hoshimachi Suisei - $1,697
>50. Nakiri Ayame - $1,602
>51. Ayunda Risu - $1,601
>52. Yuzuki Choco - $1,557
>53. Roboco - $1,029
>54. Anya Melfissa - $873
what the actual fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:20:34 No.36373385 Report

Quoted By:

>>36373300
it's funny because those have always been the ones i watched, dunno if i'm lucky (for now) or just have good taste

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:21:16 No.36373411 Report

Quoted By: >>36373704

>>36373366
we do NOT care about superchats here, so don't worry

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:21:24 No.36373417 Report

Quoted By:

>>36372640
I think you are too serious about this, Pekora just have standards. Unlike others who pump out a bunch of outfits and accessories only to use a few of them, Pekora make absolutely sure her outfit and accessories are something she will use

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:21:57 No.36373433 Report

Quoted By: >>36373780

>>36373300
Of course. Kronii having her worst month ever and HoloEN reclining right after their debut are also coincidences. The boys are also a huge success and you should always compare their numbers to StarsJP and StarsJP alone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:23:01 No.36373467 Report

Quoted By: >>36373522 >>36373549 >>36374446

/hlgg/ is explaining why EN number are low the past few day
They seem to only have cull as their explanation

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:23:03 No.36373471 Report

Quoted By:

>>36368526
holy shit nice horse race.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:24:44 No.36373522 Report

Quoted By:

>>36373467
thanks for the report, /#/spy

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:25:25 No.36373549 Report

Quoted By: >>36374446 >>36375463

>>36373467
This guy is lying, they're literally saying it's school

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:27:01 No.36373605 Report

Quoted By:

>>36373366
You underestimate the power of Saviourfags anon. Or do I need to remind you that one of the Indies that Kson interacted with prior to joining VS was able to snag one of her paypigs and was making 4 figures despite being a literal 2 view. I forgot her name but people here discussed it quite a bit a few weeks after Kson redebuted and started collabing with random Indies. Hell, we eve had that one dyke anon who was absolutely obsessed with the single mother chuuba and was getting ready to drop cash to meet up with said chuuba. Fujos and yume's tend to be just as, if not more, mentally ill than the so called unicorns that they want to differentiate from.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:27:14 No.36373615 Report

Quoted By: >>36373678 >>36373966 >>36373995

>>36373366
JP holos only doing well in CCV. Their SC has been GRIM as fuck ever since Rushia left, but this is something the thread likes to conveniently ignore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:28:59 No.36373678 Report

Quoted By:

>>36373615
Well no shit the yen is dropping. 100 JP akasupa probably only worth like 10 USD akasupa
They still have as many people, if not more SCing them

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:29:47 No.36373704 Report

Quoted By: >>36373757

>>36373411
>we don't care about the metric where we get btfo

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:31:06 No.36373757 Report

Quoted By:

>>36373704
Remember when Niji care about merch?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:31:38 No.36373780 Report

Quoted By: >>36373856

>>36373433
>you should always compare their numbers to StarsJP and StarsJP alone
Wrong! You should also compare them to iLuna who they MOG!
We all hate nijiniggers here fellow hololive production sis-err, bros! Right? So just forget, if you discuss Tempus in a negative light, you're a nijinigger, they're part of our holotribe! The boyss!

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:32:39 No.36373820 Report

Quoted By: >>36374439

The other day people asked about why ENs usually don’t get a “return buff”.
I say there is no such thing as “return buff” in itself and more of a “proper advertisement buff”.

Here is Suisei’s return
https://twitter.com/suisei_hosimati/status/1587416378574659584

She
>advertised it way in advance (no guerilla surprise return) with a properly communicated date and time
>tweeted about it
>put the waiting room up two days in advance and put it in the announcement tweet
>stacked other buffs: a 3D live and an announcement
>put all of that on the stream thumb in large enough detail it can’t be missed

The buff she’ll be getting is not a “return buff”

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:32:44 No.36373823 Report

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>>36373300
Mysta and Vox also never colalbed with Tempus, this checks out.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:33:40 No.36373855 Report

Quoted By: >>36373897 >>36373920 >>36378918

The Niji-Holo switchup over superchat cope and merch cope never gets old.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:33:40 No.36373856 Report

Quoted By:

>>36373780
>We all hate nijiniggers here
Well…

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:34:46 No.36373897 Report

Quoted By: >>36373970 >>36374114 >>36374412

>>36373855
Honestly how did that happened. Did Holo just quit chasing SC altogether? Did Niji all just abandon merchs?

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:35:42 No.36373920 Report

Quoted By:

>>36373855
Funniest part is that both increased their sales revenue at approx the same proportion meaning whatever both companies are doing is working for them both

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:35:48 No.36373925 Report

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well, if he's so great at baiting SCs let's see his last stream's performance

>uh oh

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:35:59 No.36373936 Report

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Aia got more sueprchat than Kronii, Mumei, Ame, Aqua, Laplus, Ina.....etc.
And Scarle got twice as much as Aia

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:37:06 No.36373966 Report

Quoted By:

>>36373615
>but this is something the thread likes to conveniently ignore.
From where do you think that list you are replying to came from? Every fucking month people are told the same shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:37:08 No.36373970 Report

Quoted By: >>36374065

>>36373897
It's really easy to bot stream numbers. It's not easy to bot superchats

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:37:48 No.36373995 Report

Quoted By: >>36374219

>>36373615
.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:39:46 No.36374065 Report

Quoted By:

>>36373970
>It's not easy to bot superchats
kek, it’s even easier. Back in the days the accusation for the massive super chat on 3D debut and anniversaries of low ranked Nijis was that Anykara was making
>straw purchases
seeding money for “whales” to send as superchat to inflate the perception of their livers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:40:04 No.36374075 Report

Quoted By: >>36374119 >>36374337

Why is the corporate chuuba so good?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:41:12 No.36374114 Report

Quoted By:

>>36373897
Merch anon found an exploit that showed us how much profit merch reaalllyy gives. And even though it was only a brief glance, it showed how worthless SCs are in the grand scheme of things. Like Choco by herself can get 50k on a goddamn cookbook. Niji unfortunately hasn't really given us anything to work with outside of their fiscal year report so it's harder for them to so the same.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:41:16 No.36374119 Report

Quoted By: >>36374205

>>36374075
Crunchy-hime? She cute!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:42:38 No.36374170 Report

Quoted By:

Ah, this is why they are here >>36373691

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:43:32 No.36374205 Report

Quoted By: >>36374351

>>36374119
Yeah how did this happen? You'd expect a mandate by some corporate board who jumps onto a bandwagon to be in with the kids to result into complete cringe, but she's one of the best zatsu queens out there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:44:04 No.36374219 Report

Quoted By: >>36374261 >>36375001

>>36373995
>merch cope
How the tables have turned

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:45:04 No.36374261 Report

Quoted By:

>>36374219
the difference is they still get decent SC on top of the merch and sponsorships

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:46:05 No.36374310 Report

Quoted By: >>36374900

as promised here are the membership gift numbers for niji en and homo en (would've done jp branches of both but like only 2 niji jp members even have it on and stars jp get very few)
holo girls for comparison >>36321567
>Alban: 3,781
>Luca: 2,609
>Mysta: 2,462
>Kyo: 1,709
>Fulgur: 1,287
>Uki: 1,142
>Ike: 1,052
>Enna: 874
>Pomu: 791
>Shu: 774
>Vox: 727
>Yugo: 715
>Ren: 708
>Maria: 686
>Selen: 668
>Millie: 598
>Aster: 596
>Sonny: 590
>Elira: 459
>Aia: 419
>Rosemi: 379
>Scarle: 293
>Reimu: 187
>Finana: 116
>Nina: 115

>Regis: 1,966
>Axel: 1,059
>Magni: 887
>Noir: 612

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:46:24 No.36374321 Report

Quoted By:

>>36373190
It does if you also let it spam you with desktop notifications. Suddenly you'll get notified about everything, including replies on years old comments.
If you later disable it then YT will slowly dwindle down to only giving the occasional upload and stream notification.
Yea, Google coders are shit.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:46:45 No.36374337 Report

Quoted By:

>>36374075
Nomu my beloved finally dinged 1M on her Pretender cover, I will drink 10 Suntory drinks in her name tonight

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:47:11 No.36374351 Report

Quoted By:

>>36374205
>Yeah how did this happen
Find someone competent, give her a team and a budget and let her loose.

Easy to do when you’re a media company with a singular “vtuber” mascot costing a tenth of a thousand of your usual marketing budget, hard to do when you’re a vtuber company with 50 or more of them and they have to return a profit instead of just advertise the brand

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:47:33 No.36374365 Report

Quoted By: >>36374443 >>36374639

Handcam seems to be back for nijien. As expected from that reimu member post, it was just to change rules
https://twitter.com/ScarleYonaguni/status/1587544187745890304

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:48:34 No.36374411 Report

Quoted By: >>36374567 >>36374638

If anyone is interested, this ledditor made sub growth for all nijisanji branches. Nari ex KR was the one who grew the most in all branches last month
https://www.reddit.com/r/NijiForums/comments/yiz20f/sep_2022_nijisanji_monthly_sub_growth_summary/

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:48:34 No.36374412 Report

Quoted By:

>>36373897
no one cares about superchats anymore

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:49:11 No.36374439 Report

Quoted By:

>>36373820
I mean it is a return buff. It's all the other things too but say it's not is disingenuous.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:49:23 No.36374443 Report

Quoted By: >>36374488 >>36374537 >>36374639

>>36374365
What rule got changed?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:49:30 No.36374446 Report

Quoted By:

>>36373467
>iscull
>>36373549
>school
heh

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:50:33 No.36374488 Report

Quoted By: >>36374616

>>36374443
Scarle depends on those handcam streams so desperately

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:51:40 No.36374537 Report

Quoted By:

>>36374443
who knows. only seeing the streams or wait for them to talk about the changes

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:52:41 No.36374567 Report

Quoted By:

>>36374411
Nari, Seffyna and Suha seems to be doing really well in KR, while Mika on ID

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:54:16 No.36374616 Report

Quoted By: >>36376071

>>36374488
>depends on those handcam streams so desperately
I'll never give her a chance I guess

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:54:52 No.36374638 Report

Quoted By: >>36374785

>>36374411
He wasted his time. vrabi has it
https://vrabi.net/subscribers/2022-10
Click 登録者数 (月初比) for the growth in the month.
People seem to be always reinventing the tools that already exists

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:54:55 No.36374639 Report

Quoted By: >>36374726 >>36374961

>>36374443
>>36374365
I actually cannot fathom the thought process on relying on fucking handcams for your content. Like she's genuinely the worst offender because the others do it for things that...make sense? This bitch did a fucking handcam for a tier list. Why? What's the point? Why not become a flesh streamer who literally only does handcams then?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:57:14 No.36374726 Report

Quoted By: >>36374966

>>36374639
From what people have said apparently it is the most similar to her PL content. Makes you wonder why she even wanted to be a vtuber unless she is just in it for the payday.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:57:58 No.36374756 Report

Quoted By:

Oh, I just realized that holos now have personalized TP graphics
Or will they stick to default ones for idol costumes?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:58:18 No.36374770 Report

Quoted By: >>36374990 >>36374996 >>36374999

Sorry Selen, 3.5k is for real streamers?
https://vrabi.net/video/SHCaSP505ck
Doesn't she usually get ~4-5k is for Apex, or are these hours just that ass?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 20:58:39 No.36374785 Report

Quoted By:

>>36374638
Another L for leddit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:02:01 No.36374900 Report

Quoted By:

>>36374310
Wow starsen membership is tie to how bad of a streamer you are, it seems. Do Saviorfags really

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:04:12 No.36374961 Report

Quoted By: >>36375056 >>36375114

>>36374639
Because it's what gives her a bit of viewership?

Why are holoniggers asking these dumb questions all the time?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:04:24 No.36374966 Report

Quoted By:

>>36374726
Well she got what she wanted thanks to her retarded saviorfags. But she'll genuinely never grow and if they get tired of her she's fucked.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:05:03 No.36374990 Report

Quoted By:

>>36374770
no one who hasn't already staked out this spot should try streaming now (6 AM JST, 5 PM EST, 2 PM PST)

but the geniuses in /#/ want wall-to-wall "dead hours" coverage (or at the very least like 18 hours to cater to westerners)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:05:09 No.36374996 Report

Quoted By:

>>36374770
It just seems to be another bad apex season. Hal wasn't doing too hot earlier as well

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:05:13 No.36374999 Report

Quoted By: >>36375060 >>36375084

>>36374770
I am not sure what happened with EN viewership starting from September.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:05:15 No.36375001 Report

Quoted By:

>>36374219
>he says as he SC copes

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:06:59 No.36375056 Report

Quoted By: >>36375143 >>36375191

>>36374961
If you have to rely on perverts jacking off to your hands for content, as a vtuber, then you've already lost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:07:07 No.36375060 Report

Quoted By:

>>36374999
Nah, I took a quick glance through Selen's September numbers and they seemed ok, same as almost everyone else. The sharp drop happened at the start of October for basically every EN Vtuber.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:07:08 No.36375062 Report

Quoted By: >>36375087

>>36373300
>Gura sub 20k
>Luxiem and Council sub 8k
Those numbers are fucking awful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:07:52 No.36375084 Report

Quoted By:

>>36374999
I’ll provide an attempt of an explanation: the start of the first completely in person semester of school since 2020 due to the kung flu.
Students that “studied from home” shackled to their computers now need to be at some grey building shackled to their chairs

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:08:05 No.36375087 Report

Quoted By: >>36375110

>>36375062
you realize this is 'true average' and not median / mean of peaks right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:08:43 No.36375110 Report

Quoted By:

>>36375087
Yeah they used to get 8-9k averages and 10-12k median peaks

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:08:53 No.36375114 Report

Quoted By:

>>36374961
>Because it's what gives her a bit of viewership
It’s not and I say it might even be detrimental for her based on her numbers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:09:48 No.36375143 Report

Quoted By:

>>36375056
You think viewers are masturbating to vtuber's handcam streams?

What?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:10:06 No.36375159 Report

Quoted By: >>36375229

where are the rest of niji? i only see the mid tier boy..

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:11:01 No.36375191 Report

Quoted By:

>>36375056
Holofan here. This logic is still dumb as hell.
Chuubas care about their own job and income, not arbitrary rules of content purity some random made up.
If handcams gets them views and they need views to make a quota or pay the bills, of course they're going to do it and not care about what some random on /vt/ thinks of the idea.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:11:50 No.36375229 Report

Quoted By:

>>36375159
JUNSGANG WW@

Reminder that he did that with a single run of the mill no gimmicks regular ass stream

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:15:26 No.36375344 Report

Quoted By:

>>36369464
maybe with one of her shitpost shorts, the rhyming one was pretty funny.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:18:16 No.36375463 Report

Quoted By: >>36375528 >>36375985

>>36373549
>school season, -10% numbers
>NOOOO EVERYONE IS BUSY WITH SCHOOL
>holiday season, -10% on top
>NOOOO EVERYONE IS TAKING TIME FOR THEMSELVES CELEBRATING WITH FAMILY, THEY DONT HAVE TIME TO WATCH STREAMS
>viewers never actually come back
there will never be an actual reason, JP is extremely consistent, school or not, they have to accept the fact that people just started leaving to other hobbies because for one reason or another, they are not interested in the current product

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:18:55 No.36375491 Report

Quoted By:

>Luna sings "This is the Happiness and Peace of Mind Committee" in her live
>Mel does it less than a month later
Why not one of his other songs, they are all good...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:19:23 No.36375510 Report

Quoted By:

>>36369149
if you look at her chat, she does seem to have Japanese viewers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:19:58 No.36375528 Report

Quoted By:

>>36375463
extremely consistent except when they dud out with a sub 25k gold and it gets memoryholed

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:20:39 No.36375560 Report

Quoted By: >>36375653 >>36376016 >>36376744

>5 hours vod
>200k views
just go back to minecraft and buff shit goomba...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:22:52 No.36375653 Report

Quoted By:

>>36375560
oh nyo

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:23:50 No.36375688 Report

Quoted By:

Oh VSPO is doing hardcore Minecraft. I guess Ema is their strongest variety streamer overall?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:31:49 No.36375985 Report

Quoted By:

>>36375463
The only big event for en was Gura live and stars. I am not interested in stars so it's been a few month of nothing, en even isn't going to be in the sportfes. The list of thing fans of hololive would be interested in is just not there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:32:04 No.36375993 Report

Quoted By: >>36376079

>Last post was 8 minutes ago

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:32:32 No.36376013 Report

Quoted By:

Based on today's numbers and the shape of this chart I can assume APEX will be a dud for another season
I'll watch Hal's stream and report back

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:32:33 No.36376016 Report

Quoted By:

>>36375560
The low vod views isn't just low CCV, but low CCV that had no churn. People saw the game and probably noped out right away, never even counting as a view for having stayed a while.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:33:23 No.36376037 Report

Quoted By:

Scarle's "HANDCAM" streams in October (peaks without counting Zs and raids, at least the ones that result in viewership continuously declining):

>02/10, 08:00 EDT: 951
>03/10, 00:00 EDT: 1.424
>09/10, 00:00 EDT: 1.349
>16/10, 03:00 EDT: 1.151
>18/10, 23:30 EDT: 2.371
>28/10, 00:00 EDT: 1.064 (she was inclining normally in this one but a raid ruins the graph)
>30/10, 01:30 EDT: 2.036

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:34:24 No.36376071 Report

Quoted By: >>36376278

>>36374616
you wouldn't give her a chance anyway, holotard

stop larping

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:34:30 No.36376079 Report

Quoted By:

>>36375993
grim...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:38:23 No.36376230 Report

Quoted By:

i still dont understand how you guys made the nijien handcam thing to be a ban when that reimu message was clear it was temporary kek

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:39:31 No.36376278 Report

Quoted By:

>>36376071
I do when I like the content

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:39:35 No.36376286 Report

Quoted By: >>36376327

Axel has atleast 2k memberships based on the post likes and will likely increase a lot more today.
I truly believe in a years time will become the top streamer out of Tempus

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:40:04 No.36376302 Report

Quoted By: >>36376343 >>36376399 >>36376423 >>36376443 >>36376477 >>36376577 >>36376694 >>36376799 >>36377640

>【LUIGIS MANSION 3】Your Favourite VBoober is LIVE
>VBoober
kek

She's talking about her Eurovision dream and how it "might not happen" and how it's hard it is to grow without a big chance like that.
Is she crazy? Eurovision is all based on politics and rigged from the get go every year.

Anyway, she's talking about being stuck without growth and considering Twitch as a way to get a big audience.
If you want to hear Kiara to cry about numbers click here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPcXZFOr2zc

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:40:31 No.36376313 Report

Quoted By: >>36376375 >>36376443 >>36376546 >>36377212

Ame VR escape room VOD less than 200k
it's fucking grim
shame because in their behind the scenes video it shows how much effort goes into these things

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:40:43 No.36376327 Report

Quoted By:

>>36376286
lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:41:14 No.36376343 Report

Quoted By: >>36376553

>>36376302
>least pathetic hatewatcher

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:42:04 No.36376374 Report

Quoted By:

I still love vtubers. I dont understand where all the anons went...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:42:05 No.36376375 Report

Quoted By: >>36376546

>>36376313
>it shows how much effort goes into these things
If only they put that effort into something else than yet another VR stream, it was kino the first couple of times, now it's stale as fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:43:01 No.36376399 Report

Quoted By: >>36376553

>>36376302
Transcript? Is she crying like Vox did?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:43:35 No.36376423 Report

Quoted By: >>36376515 >>36376553

>>36376302
>and considering Twitch as a way to get a big audience.
I assume KFP told her it's a retarded idea and she decided against it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:44:13 No.36376443 Report

Quoted By: >>36376510 >>36378196

>>36376313
>how much effort goes into these things
Between this and what Kiara is talking at >>36376302 that's one of the biggest problem with the EN girls way of thinking.
They don't need to do something GRANDIOSE, largest numbers recently was Pekora visiting Marine and they both talking and laughing and answering a Q&A

Kiara was betting her growth on Eurovision (and she didn't seem to be even kidding), there is no silver bullet for massive growth

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:45:07 No.36376477 Report

Quoted By: >>36376605 >>36376614 >>36376627 >>36376663

>>36376302
>If you want to hear Kiara to cry about numbers click here
She's being pretty reasonable about the difficulties of growth desu
>Tiktoker don't use other platform, mostly focus on the one blow up video not creator
>Twitch hasn't worked for other girls
>Vtubers are a niche
>Which big youtuber would be right to reach out to collab with instead of chasing biggest

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:45:39 No.36376489 Report

Quoted By:

>>36371503
kek.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:46:01 No.36376510 Report

Quoted By: >>36376814 >>36376934

>>36376443
>Kiara was betting her growth on Eurovision
Jesus christ that might be the dumbest thing I have heard. If Austria is anything like here in DK you need to first get chosen for the national show by whoever got the broadcast rights and then win that to even get to the semifinal rounds of Eurovision.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:46:08 No.36376515 Report

Quoted By:

>>36376423
Kiara was the one who thought it was a bad idea.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:47:03 No.36376546 Report

Quoted By: >>36376693

>>36376313
>>36376375
Funny, /hlgg/ was having a meltdown about muh unity and why others didn't show up. Apparently the viewers didn't show up either. I can't blame Ame, she's trying to keep things afloat, but it wasn't gonna work forever just because had one good idea.
Time for Cover to ramp up efforts with the EN branch instead of relying on the talents to carry it alone. Outfits, 3ds, new gen are all long overdue.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:47:11 No.36376553 Report

Quoted By:

>>36376343
Nah, I tuned in and it's interesting to see her talking candidly about her number problems and her growth strats

>>36376399
>Is she crying like Vox did?
Not really, people talk a lot about Kiara but she's really articulate and level headed.

>>36376423
>I assume KFP told her it's a retarded idea and she decided against it?
KFP suggested
>FUCKING TIKTOK
and collabs with big stars like Pewds

She correctly asked
>why the fuck would Pewdiepie pick me instead of Calli, for instance
She's now saying
>yeah, I want a big normal crowd, I know it could open the doors for a lot of vtuber haters among normies but it could also open a big market too

It's a good talk about what she considers about growth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:47:46 No.36376577 Report

Quoted By:

>>36376302
How about she starts by dropping the voice and moving her stream start time to 8 pm CEST and then take it from there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:48:26 No.36376605 Report

Quoted By:

>>36376477
Oldest trick in the book mate.
>hey anons, watch this, it's interesting
>nah, I'm good
>hey anons, watch this, it's a trainwreck of tears and meltdown
>YAY!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:48:44 No.36376614 Report

Quoted By: >>36376668 >>36376676 >>36376702 >>36376724 >>36377348

>>36376477
collabing with bigger youtubers (or holos) wont incline her, how come she still hasnt understood this after all this time. For kiara, her way to grow is have the rest of HoloEN to grow and pull her with them - so she needs to organize more big collabs, suggest good content to them and keep the girls from making retarded decisions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:49:04 No.36376627 Report

Quoted By:

>>36376477
>tiktok
for normies, which vtubers are not
>twitch
need to suck eceleb cock so they can share their numbers with you, no ammount on effor will lead you to success since everyone just goes there to watch THE GAME THEY WANT TO SEE and sort from most to least viewers

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:49:19 No.36376639 Report

Quoted By: >>36376752

was there another ban wave?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:49:43 No.36376663 Report

Quoted By: >>36378070

>>36376477
Sure but this is entry level /#/ stuff.
Anyone in /#/ could tell you you get instant growth with :good consistent timeslot + decent games. That's it, most people will just swallow up the games.
Fucking Fauna inclined doing this. Meanwhile Kiara is coping that there's no way to grow, but the truth is that only applies to her. Kiara is the saddest HoloEN because all the others have some sort of "pfft I'm not even trying" attitude to cope with recline, but Kiara *is* trying. And failing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:49:52 No.36376668 Report

Quoted By:

>>36376614
>collabing with bigger youtubers (or holos) wont incline her, how come she still hasnt understood this after all this time
She was literally against it and explained why. Please watch streams

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:49:59 No.36376676 Report

Quoted By:

>>36376614
The best thing Kiara put together in the last 6 months was the outfit competition between her and Ina. She should do more of that stuff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:50:23 No.36376693 Report

Quoted By: >>36377077

>>36376546
/hlgg/ was being ridiculous. Anyone coming at the halloween collab from the perspective of "hey this is a little scuffed and they've done a dozen VR collabs by now" got instantly shut down for being a jealous chumbud lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:50:24 No.36376694 Report

Quoted By: >>36376760

>>36376302
Eurovision would be funny.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:50:35 No.36376702 Report

Quoted By: >>36376824

>>36376614
>collabing with bigger youtubers (or holos) wont incline her
Wait wait wait ... the right type of in the box collab could absolutely incline her.

See AZKi, here is her "before the box" / "after the box" streams.
Same thing goes for Kaela, same thing goes for Koyori (which anons here like to criticize but she did make the good choices), same thing goes for Mio

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:51:03 No.36376724 Report

Quoted By: >>36376993 >>36377703

>>36376614
anon... she's the new Sana line, are you seriously suggesting that the other girls take advice from Kiara who 1) dodges big collabs because muh sleep schedule, 2) can't figure out content that appeals to her timeslot aside from GTA / AOE and 3) keeps failing to make the right decision to change her voice and smoothen her attitude?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:51:42 No.36376744 Report

Quoted By:

>>36375560
1 one debuff game from time to time doesn't hurt anyone, Gura is in a ''I'll play what I want'' mode right now

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:51:53 No.36376752 Report

Quoted By:

>>36376639
nah, just grim gang becoming stronger and stronger

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:52:09 No.36376760 Report

Quoted By:

>>36376694
>Eurovision would be funny.
Anon, Eurovision is rigged every year, the winner is predetermined and both designed to push a certain message and to represent a certain cause.
Eurovision next year would be in Ukraine, now it might be in London in honor of Ukraine. Do you REALLY want Hololive anywhere near that trainwreck?

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:52:18 No.36376773 Report

Quoted By: >>36376827 >>36376906

>Hmm should I drop my fake voice everyone hates anyway, move my timeslot, and make my content something other than debuff game longstreams that are 50% tangents?
>NO!
>I must organize Eurovision and collab with pewds.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:53:15 No.36376799 Report

Quoted By:

>>36376302
deserved for opening the door to nijibeggars

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:53:27 No.36376814 Report

Quoted By: >>36376943

>>36376510
I don't really keep tabs but here in the Nordics and the Baltics it's usually some meme groups who win in the end, isn't it?
So maybe she'd have a chance if she moved to a better country.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:53:39 No.36376824 Report

Quoted By:

>>36376702
that only works if you have something to offer that can match the rest of the box..kiara doesnt have that - apart from maybe her high effort in music and idol reps, which she cant show off much or even regularly. Its the same problem as bae

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:53:52 No.36376827 Report

Quoted By: >>36376863

>>36376773
From the undertones of her talk about it I was left with the impression she's not blaming herself. She said
>yeah, but *I* don't have the contacts to make that happen
implying she wants her management to find a way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:54:39 No.36376859 Report

Quoted By: >>36376985 >>36376994 >>36377145

Am I crazy or would Twitch actuallly be a decent option for Kiara? Would leverage her stream hours at least

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:54:47 No.36376863 Report

Quoted By:

>>36376827
Trying to incline a stubborn bitch like Kiara is probably the kind of torture Paul Li will face when he dies and goes to hell.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:56:01 No.36376906 Report

Quoted By: >>36376940 >>36377156 >>36377444 >>36377611 >>36378189

>>36376773
you're literally asking her to change core elements of her identity, which has been proven in multiple forms of media to be the fastest way to bleed off your existing audience

if everyone followers your advice everybody would have the same kind of cookie cutter content in the same timeslot with the same personality/presentation

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:56:32 No.36376934 Report

Quoted By: >>36376989

>>36376510
>you need to first get chosen for the national show by whoever got the broadcast rights
Kiara actually tried reaching out to whichever middle manager TV host that was running the Austria one.
They didn't reply.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:56:37 No.36376940 Report

Quoted By: >>36377005

>>36376906
>has been proven in multiple forms of media to be the fastest way to bleed off your existing audience
No it's not. See: Suisei, Towa

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:56:47 No.36376943 Report

Quoted By:

>>36376814
Yeah. Politics plays a part but a fun act can still win. Plus it is a chance to get in front of millions of viewers. She even said her plan was not to win just be seen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:57:37 No.36376973 Report

Quoted By: >>36377029

im thinking kiara's best chance is to work on creating some new arc in a game or event where the other holos can join - like pekora and matsuri did by pushing for their own server in Rust. No im not saying it is easy

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:57:51 No.36376985 Report

Quoted By:

>>36376859
yaa let her go to Twitch, out of sight out of mind

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:57:58 No.36376989 Report

Quoted By: >>36377013

>>36376934
>They didn't reply.
In most European countries the selection process is through open auditions or a competition in the state TV channel.
Try to imagine how many people would want to grow their brand by appearing in one of the most watched European shows.
Kiara is smart in that it would help her grow but dumb to think she's the only one trying this exact strategy

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:58:03 No.36376993 Report

Quoted By: >>36377026

>>36376724
she literally said this won't work and explained why you retarded threadreader.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:58:04 No.36376994 Report

Quoted By: >>36377029 >>36377041 >>36377136 >>36378312

>>36376859
There is no decent option for Kiara. Kiara is running on pure saviorfags from the Myth era. She will never grow. Going to twitch and embarrassing the holobrand as she gets regularly mogged by twitch 2nd stringers like Snuffy/Silvervale/Zentreya. Twitch viewers will be looking at her and going
>wtf why isn't this bitch reacting to the newest FOTM anime while she shows it on screen

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:58:24 No.36377005 Report

Quoted By: >>36377132

>>36376940
suisei just shifted her voice register, she didn't change her times or content

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:58:39 No.36377013 Report

Quoted By: >>36377174

>>36376989
>but dumb to think she's the only one trying this exact strategy
Where'd she say that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:58:57 No.36377026 Report

Quoted By: >>36377107

>>36376993
not gifting her a view, sorry, -transcript- or nothing

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:58:58 No.36377029 Report

Quoted By:

>>36376973
That goes back to the timezone issue though
>>36376994
Eh I don't think counterprogramming would be a terrible idea. Worth considering at least.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 21:59:15 No.36377041 Report

Quoted By: >>36377205 >>36377261 >>36377857

>>36376994
>pure saviorfags from the Myth
Cope. I guess al the Koreans she got in the past 6 months or so were saviourfag from the myth era too?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:00:17 No.36377077 Report

Quoted By:

>>36376693
It was better than the other VR collabs in concept, but they stalled for too long at the beginning and then the puzzles broke.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:01:01 No.36377107 Report

Quoted By: >>36377337

>>36377026
don't pull shit out of your ass then. i thought this was a place for discussion based in facts, not in stuff the voices in your head tell you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:01:29 No.36377132 Report

Quoted By: >>36377209 >>36377423 >>36377703

>>36377005
I was talking about the "drop the fake voice" part.
She also doesn't have any signature content either, unless you count the exact thing she's doing now
>talking with the already captured audience
her signature content.
Either way that's exactly the part she can change without problem, people wouldn't mind if she tried new types of content.

She's now also talking about another point
>I **need** my sleep otherwise I can't function at all!
I thought the "not moving her sleep schedule for a big collab" was a meme, haters tarnishing her name.
It is real after all? All of the scheduling problems is caused by her unwillingness to stay up later or wake up earlier once in a blue moon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:01:34 No.36377136 Report

Quoted By: >>36377247

>>36376994
Those also mogged every HoloEN and Tempiss at Twitch.
Gura has not tried Twitch yet but I do not expect her to best the topdogs over there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:01:47 No.36377145 Report

Quoted By:

>>36376859
Streaming long hours herself won't magically make her numbers better on twitch just because streamers there tend to stream long hours lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:01:57 No.36377156 Report

Quoted By: >>36377252 >>36377423

>>36376906
>core elements of her identity
Debuff games are a core element of her identity?
How many times must she get a buff stream where tourists go
>wtf shut up and play the game
Before she takes the hint? The reason superchat readings exist is to go on tangents. focus on the fucking game, and play shit outside your taste range. Hell even Gura does that! It didn't bring her CCV numbers but it sure was a smash hit with her audience that she randomly got into DMC, for example. It made waves of art, clips, VOD views etc. Just grafted a good chunk of DMC fans to her audience, boom.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:02:30 No.36377174 Report

Quoted By:

>>36377013
>Where'd she say that?
Her actions implied that, by even considering the possibility she could pull it off without a TRULY SERIOUS institutional contact coming from her entertainment company instead of cold calling some mid level producer

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:03:03 No.36377205 Report

Quoted By: >>36377261

>>36377041
>I guess al the Koreans she got in the past 6 months or so were saviourfag from the myth era too?
What Koreans?
Can you show me on a CCV chart where she increased her numbers with the massive gook reinforcements?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:03:16 No.36377209 Report

Quoted By:

>>36377132
Is she incapable of seeing thing from other people view?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:03:18 No.36377212 Report

Quoted By: >>36377379 >>36377583

>>36376313
I've seen enough of these vr collabs to know it turns into nothing but inaudible loud noises and just skipped it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:04:03 No.36377247 Report

Quoted By: >>36377351

>>36377136
>Gura has not tried Twitch yet but I do not expect her to best the topdogs over there.
Not with one stream. Most of the CCV numbers come from the yt sub box alerting people someone is going live.
If any of these girls did it consistently, they'd at least equal their numbers. Kson for example has better twitch numbers than YT.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:04:08 No.36377252 Report

Quoted By: >>36377390

>>36377156
Going on tangents is Kiara's brand at this point and anyone still watching her expects that. Changing her streaming style is more likely to piss off old fans than pick up any new fans.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:04:21 No.36377261 Report

Quoted By: >>36377419

>>36377041
>I guess al the Koreans she got in the past 6 months or so
>>36377205
>What Koreans?
Kiara talked about it in this very stream, there is NO koreans.

She was just talking about how Ame's break came from pure luck, and tried to explain that "korean news get pranked" story (but didn't have the details correctly)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:06:10 No.36377330 Report

Quoted By: >>36377353 >>36377414 >>36378409

At this point she might as well just go for it and try to organize a Holovision competition with indiechuubas or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:06:23 No.36377337 Report

Quoted By:

>>36377107
what is false about her not making big collabs because it's at 1-2 AM her time?
what is false about her being the low tide mark of Hololive EN?
what is false about her only solo gaming to reach 5k in october being GTAV and What the Golf?

and sure, you got me, last point is editorializing but her RM voice is easier on the ears, natural, and her cover is 100% blown anyway in the convention scene so why even bother?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:06:43 No.36377348 Report

Quoted By: >>36377468

>>36376614
Jokes on you, she hates having to organize collabs despite it being one of few things that kept EN box up for as long as it was alive

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:06:47 No.36377351 Report

Quoted By: >>36377440

>>36377247
>Kson for example has better twitch numbers than YT.
Not in October, she doesn't, they were even
>True Average on Youtube: 3148
>True Average on Twitch: 3050

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:06:48 No.36377353 Report

Quoted By:

>>36377330
Could do it like Niji and rig it for her to get in the final every time like with King.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:07:34 No.36377379 Report

Quoted By:

>>36377212
That's the thing, they already killed the VR concept by doing tons of streams in VR which are just people talking over each other so when they actually try something new and interesting people don't even bother to show up because they expect more of the same shit, even if it isn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:07:58 No.36377390 Report

Quoted By:

>>36377252
If you say so.
I guess she'll have to tap into that massive audience that demands ESL screechy voiced european women going on tangents. Maybe from PDP or Eurovision.
Are we sure Kiara is still streaming? It feels like people are listing ways she could incline and fix her debuffs but they get countered with
>nuh huh! she can't!
Kiara, is this you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:08:36 No.36377414 Report

Quoted By: >>36377792 >>36378409

>>36377330
>At this point she might as well just go for it and try to organize a Holovision competition with indiechuubas or something.
AZKi would 100% be onboard, given that she already organized the 72 hours thing

Not making it a competition would help tho, maybe
>VtuberVision, showcase of vtuber voices
Funniest thing is that people that don't even care that much about Kiara are shooting better ideas around than her fucking audience.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:08:41 No.36377419 Report

Quoted By: >>36377482

>>36377261
>Kiara talked about it in this very stream, there is NO koreans.
There are Koreans, but they didn't magically turn in a massive boost beyond everyone's baseline.
There are always Koreans lurking on Kiara's stream (even at shit times) but it's on the order hundreds (at most), not thousands.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:08:49 No.36377423 Report

Quoted By: >>36378478

>>36377156
she plays the games she likes and is a naturally chatty person. telling her to play other games and shutting up is literally telling her to not be herself.
come on dude.

and she has been branching out, she hasn't played a jrpg in months. she's been doing mostly short games. her last four long form things were GTA, cult of the lamb, tunic and stray. you just don't watch streams.

>>36377132
you're an absolute retard. I say "changing a bunch of things at once is a great way to bleed off audience" and you say "it worked for [person who changed a single thing]". have some fucking reading comprehension.

also just because you're some basement dweller with no sleep schedule doesn't mean other people can function that way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:09:10 No.36377440 Report

Quoted By: >>36377525 >>36377582 >>36377808

>>36377351
So she..at least equaled her numbers.
And I think it'd be the same for Gura transition to twitch (god forbid) if she did it with regularity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:09:14 No.36377444 Report

Quoted By:

>>36376906
they do that anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:09:47 No.36377468 Report

Quoted By:

>>36377348
She's so incredibly stupid, not only EN really REALLY needs an organizer (Ame is not quite that) but it's one of the things that best suit her. She won't ever get a Gura-like audience by being a stubborn Karen

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:10:09 No.36377482 Report

Quoted By:

>>36377419
Then "all the Koreans she got in the past 6 months" are not that relevant when talking about audience growth, are they?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:10:30 No.36377497 Report

Quoted By: >>36377643

Kiara will never incline because KFP themselves are being defensive against suggestions on how to incline. You don't have to defend Kiara on everything, tards, these aren't even attacks on her.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:10:58 No.36377525 Report

Quoted By:

>>36377440
To be fair, when i was watching Kson (this was before vshojo) she did pretty different content on twitch and youtube. Twitch was aimed at an EOP audience and she did react shit and stuff there, while she did Gunpla and stuff on youtube for the JOPs

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:12:33 No.36377582 Report

Quoted By:

>>36377440
>And I think it'd be the same for Gura transition to twitch (god forbid) if she did it with regularity.
Nah, kson is fully onboarded on the Connor / TrashTaste / VShojo box, I say she owes her Twitch audience to them

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:12:35 No.36377583 Report

Quoted By:

>>36377212
inaudible *and* loud?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:13:08 No.36377611 Report

Quoted By:

>>36376906
Hi Kiara!
No, people don't watch you for retarded chicken voice, Cover didn't hire you for it either!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:14:09 No.36377640 Report

Quoted By: >>36377789 >>36377883

>>36376302
1) Consistent stream schedule. You can't start at 3 PM and end at 11 and expect an euro audience, COVID is over and people don't have time to spend their entire life watching Vtubers. So shorter streams with a consistent time slot, stop trying to get the JP audience for fuck sake.
2) Eurovision really? Come on Kiara let's be real.
3) Leeching from mainstream Youtubers doesn't work and it has been proven countless times. If she wants to grow HoloEN needs to thrive as a whole, you need people that love the Hololive brand and as such will support any streamer from it. Her best bet is to pressure management and the other girls into getting their shit together.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:14:13 No.36377643 Report

Quoted By: >>36377787 >>36377891

>>36377497
KFP is defensive because they like their streamer, it's why they are there. if she changed her voice, stopped talking about her cats and her tangents and became a CS:GO elite or APEX master, do you think most of them would stick around or leave?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:16:00 No.36377703 Report

Quoted By: >>36377754

>>36377132
>>36376724
sleep is important.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:17:23 No.36377754 Report

Quoted By:

>>36377703
then move to a better timezone

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:18:12 No.36377787 Report

Quoted By: >>36377929

>>36377643
Yes, they are absolutely a captive audience. You don't cater to those people they'll just slowly dwindle, you push in a new direction.
Of course don't go full retard and utterly change everything or do something you know your current audience hates, ease them into changes but push in a new direction. Chances of some faggot reaaaally caring about what chonkers did and quitting Kiara because no chonkers update in the last 5 streams are minimimal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:18:15 No.36377789 Report

Quoted By: >>36378579

>>36377640
I don't think you understand the meaning of "consistent".

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:18:21 No.36377792 Report

Quoted By: >>36378013 >>36378480

>>36377414
>AZKi would 100% be onboard, given that she already organized the 72 hours thing
Archives seem to be gone. Is it like that peanuts thing where they invite small chuubas for karaoke, minigames and also have CMs like this one for Suisei?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nJQ2JKd_Vs&t=3366
>people that don't even care that much about Kiara are shooting better ideas
I think it's just that people who like numbers tend to like problem solving too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:18:48 No.36377808 Report

Quoted By: >>36377862 >>36377950

>>36377440
I think if Gura were on twitch it'd actually incline her a little because one of the things on twitch is that big streamers will often times check in on what other streamers are doing live and watch them.
Simply because she's Gura and people know who she is she'd get signal boosted by other streamers on the platform cause "OMEGALUL VTUBERS" "REAL VOICE POG" and shit like that

That said I think Gura is the only one who would be impacted in this way

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:19:58 No.36377857 Report

Quoted By:

>>36377041
>Koreans
https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/channel/UCHsx4Hqa-1ORjQTh9TYDhww.html
Ctrl+F KRW
Shit's in bottom half in most of recent streams, she lost most of them

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:20:02 No.36377862 Report

Quoted By: >>36378096

>>36377808
That sounds cancerous

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:20:05 No.36377866 Report

Quoted By:

but why would EN be culled?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:20:29 No.36377883 Report

Quoted By: >>36378579

>>36377640
>Her best bet is to pressure management and the other girls into getting their shit together.
So we have reached the endgame here. The rest of HoloEN (who might have mass appeal) need to start trying harder and incline the brand, no way for Kiara herself to incline other than by organizing collabs and exposing more people to her good branch mates, so she can sap some views from that?
Damn. Maybe she should just start plastering QR codes with Gawr Gura's channel in city's public spaces.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:20:35 No.36377891 Report

Quoted By:

>>36377643
This is the female equivalent of something that plagues young adult boys
>why can't I find a nice girl to marry?
>do you have a stable job, an impeccable hygiene, is interesting and kind?
>lol, no! I'm still studying with no prospects of when I'll graduate and I don't even make my bed in the morning!
>well, let's try to fix the basics then. Here is are simple changes you can make to improve as a person and become a better prospect
>WHY CAN'T I HAVE A NICE GIRL TO MARRY WHO WILL ACCEPT ME FOR WHO I AM?!?!?

Kiara clearly is signalling she wants to expand her audience.
WORSE, she's even entertaining expanding her audience in the MAINSTREAM direction, she wants "normies" (as she referred) to become part of her audience, even if that would attract "normie vtuber hate" (also her own reference).

She's in the market for a "nice boy to marry" because the only boys she got apparently only stick around because of her shortcomings and will do everything to prevent her from improving lest she abandons them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:21:30 No.36377929 Report

Quoted By:

>>36377787
You would be right if she was a TV star, but streamers live from memberships and superchats, there is a high chance her core audience is MUCH more profitable than 1m new subs would be. Streaming fulltime is a job like any other, and risking your livelyhood to "branch out" can fuck you up. look at nazuna and Kson, they are doing fine but nowhere near where they used to be.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:21:58 No.36377950 Report

Quoted By: >>36378096

>>36377808
>cause "OMEGALUL VTUBERS" "REAL VOICE POG"
Yeah, meanwhile, in real life, one of the major sources of cheap content on twitter and tiktok by the mainstream rap audience is to shit on Calli

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:21:59 No.36377951 Report

Quoted By:

>>36371306
Yagoo should sell it to Meta and stop wasting money

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:22:15 No.36377960 Report

Quoted By:

I guess Kiara is a perfect example of someone who is outside the miniscule EN box

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:23:15 No.36378013 Report

Quoted By: >>36378055 >>36378677

>>36377792
No, it was an MV marathon. There ought to be playlists somewhere. That said, there was probably INNK staff involved and the chat was modded by indie chuubas, so I'm not sure how capable AZKi currently would be in handling it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:24:11 No.36378055 Report

Quoted By: >>36378085

>>36378013
The point is not to have AZKi to handle it, but that it is possible and there is even people within Hololive (AZKi in this case) with experience that could help Kiara.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:24:24 No.36378065 Report

Quoted By:

I think one of the easiest ways to retain some new audience would be hiring a soundguy to configure her equipment. People always cry about her "chicken" voice, but the actual problem in my opinion is her voice constantly peaking the microphone because of shity settings.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:24:35 No.36378070 Report

Quoted By: >>36378377 >>36378710

>>36376663
Except that it didn't work for fauna. Her vod views are extremely low. Even her collabs with get less than 100k views. At the end of the day vod views it what shows growth and popularity since that is what sponsorships look for. Even faunas sub growth is terrible. En as a whole needs something big to be relevant again

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:24:53 No.36378085 Report

Quoted By:

>>36378055
Was that whole project handled by Azki herself?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:25:01 No.36378096 Report

Quoted By: >>36378255

>>36377862
Yeah of course this is drama and leech central we're talking about lmao

>>36377950
I'm just talking about twitch. Most there only know Gura because she has a big number. Whatever Mori gets up to on twitter has no effect because she doesn't have high ccv or watch time

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:26:05 No.36378139 Report

Quoted By:

Here is the one cheap trick to help Kiara find a much better prospect, increase her collab partners, facilitate her 3D content and, at the same time, not to have to sacrifice her sleep schedule
>MOVE THE FUCK BACK TO JAPAN, THE LIKELY REASON SHE WAS HIRED IN THE FIRST PLACE
SCIENTISTS AND NUMBERFAGS HATE THIS!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:26:44 No.36378170 Report

Quoted By:

HoloEN's line up for tonight is pretty grim

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:27:09 No.36378189 Report

Quoted By:

>>36376906
But therein lies the question - are those things core to her identity?
>Chicken Voice
Can someone find more than 2 people who genuinely like that voice? It's not like Fauna where you can figure out why people like it while also personally getting filtered to fuck - shit's just shrill and ear-piercing, doesn't translate to English well at all, and not necessary in the first place. Goober sounds like a child, but she's not shrill. Even Bae's cutting back on this shit.
>Debuff game longstreams
From what I can tell, KFP's there for the random chance of tangents, because these seem to be heavy filters otherwise, with steadily bleeding viewership over time.
>Timeslot
It's uniquely shit in that it mostly targets fuck you in the morning JST with EOP content. Meanwhile, the EU primetime window is roughly 2 hours later than her usual start and end times. As a result, the only people watching her are gachis, because damn near the entire world is either asleep or still stuck at work/school. Takotime isn't amazing for most people, but it's still the last hour or two of EU primetime into the start of EST primetime, so at least there's something to work with.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:27:20 No.36378196 Report

Quoted By: >>36378350

>>36376443
>largest numbers recently was Pekora visiting Marine
But that wasn't growth yoi retard. That is just the normal holo box watching live. It didn't do anything for sub growth and didn't bring in new viewers

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:28:42 No.36378255 Report

Quoted By:

>>36378096
>Most there only know Gura because she has a big number.
Anon, most of the mainstream audience has one and only one word for vtubers
>cringe
and most of the content creators will only mention vtubers in this context
>The Insane Rise of Vtubers and Why I Hate Them

Gura on Twitch would be all downside

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:29:38 No.36378288 Report

Quoted By:

>>36368445

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:30:22 No.36378312 Report

Quoted By: >>36378489

>>36376994
Kiara just realesed the most succesful og song of her career. She is literaly the only en thathad something get higher numbers than last year. While everything is declining she somehow made something that was a success. Look at en numbers anon. They need to change something

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:30:49 No.36378330 Report

Quoted By: >>36378416 >>36378579

maybe im barking up the wrong tree here, but how do you guys feel when your oshi's numberfag on stream? i've been watching every stream for this 2view for a while now, and she keeps going on about how "nobody watches her" and if i try to cheer her up she gets pissy at me saying im just coping and shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:31:24 No.36378350 Report

Quoted By: >>36378381 >>36378431 >>36378569

>>36378196
Anon, you are missing the point.
>sub growth, new viewers
There is ZERO relation between sub growth and new **permanent** viewers, as Kobo more than proves it, with her subs and her viewers going in opposite direction in the past few months.

Now ask yourself: if the box is big enough to provide that big live audience, and if adding a million and a half new subs did fuck all to prop up Kobo (and Ollie, now nearing 3 views territory), why would it be a better alternative for Kiara to go after new viewers instead of just converting some in the box into her own audience?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:32:11 No.36378377 Report

Quoted By: >>36378538

>>36378070
>Except that it didn't work for fauna. Her vod views are extremely low.
Outside Gura, and some of Mori's content, Fauna's vod views are on par or above the rest of EN though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:32:13 No.36378381 Report

Quoted By: >>36378526 >>36378537

>>36378350
>converting some in the box into her own audience
what box?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:32:54 No.36378409 Report

Quoted By:

>>36377330
Too much work for her
Same with that holorap competition she wanted to organize, she never even started
>>36377414
>Kiara
>Asking JP holo for help
lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:33:07 No.36378416 Report

Quoted By: >>36378479

>>36378330
>how do you guys feel when your oshi's numberfag on stream
I don't feel good. I felt bad when Haachama disclosed she fell below 5k members and that one of her goals was to go above 6k again.
>joke is on her, haatons might have double her members on gifted subs alone, with my convert in some retention down the line

>she gets pissy at me saying im just coping and shit
She's right. If she can notice you on chat cheering on her it truly means nobody watches her.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:33:19 No.36378426 Report

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So copy pasted # post is the new meta in global..

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:33:28 No.36378431 Report

Quoted By: >>36378574

>>36378350
Pekora is also getting less viewers anon. Non of the fate go viewers stuck around and her minecraft stream got mediocre numbers even with almost no overlap

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:34:25 No.36378478 Report

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>>36377423
NTA but as someone who did give Kiara a chance and would "tolerate" her during collabs thinking that it "wouldn't be so bad" or "hey, at least it's a myth collab!"... She just isn't made for the whole live entertainer thing. It's nothing against her, I've always been neutral on Kiara and did watch her roommate's vlogs from time to time (which I did enjoy a lot more than her content as a vtuber). As someone from the outside, I feel that Kiara has a strong personality that really endears her to the KFP, but that same strong personality is going to repel more people than it attracts because she doesn't have the needed natural charisma to offset it. I'm a Kobr stan, and as much of an asshole as he was, especially the years right after shaq got traded to MIA, many maaannny people were still drawn to him because he had charisma. Hell, for vtubers you can look at Suisei and despite the fact that she can be a stacy herself, her aura draws people in. There are many chuuba's who are better singers than her both in Hololive and Nijisanji (even more in the indie circles) but none of them possess the same level of charisma that comet has. The only way Kiara can make any headway is to capitulate and start giving up certain things that she's adamant on keeping. And that's a problem because that goes against her personality. The only way she does any drastic changes would be if she starts getting abandoned by her own fanbase (something we both know isn't happening) and she's basically pushed to the brink like where she was prior to joining Myth. And you and I wouldn't want that on her.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:34:26 No.36378479 Report

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>>36378416
yeah i know that but isn't it kind of cuntish to belittle the people who do take the time out of their day to watch you like that, i think it's messed up personally

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:34:26 No.36378480 Report

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>>36377792
>Archives seem to be gone. Is it like that peanuts thing where they invite small chuubas for karaoke, minigames and also have CMs like this one for Suisei?
One was pure MVs with links in chat, there was a bunch of exclusive things to the marathon tho
The other one had a few short lives in it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:34:55 No.36378489 Report

Quoted By:

>>36378312
Pathetic cope, KFP.
But hey, you're right. It appears that Kiara is on the rise. Conversation over, why are we even discussing how the genius behind Frog Week can incline?
Can we truly pretend to teach Mozard his craft?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:35:39 No.36378526 Report

Quoted By:

>>36378381
The JP box, of course. If her idea is to raise her profile and, with the newly gained notoriety, to increase her audience, she could EASILY just lean on her JP mates for a higher profile, then try to retain part of the audience

A lot of the early Myth audience came from Korone, Haachama, Coco and others in the wide EOP world that were eager for some EN speaking chuubas. There is no reason to believe Myth tapped them all out and them lost them all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:35:58 No.36378537 Report

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>>36378381
The HoloEN box?
Y'know, the one that views HoloEN
>t-this doesn't exist because it's not 100k strong like holoJP
It does fucking exist, or overlaps would not affect every single one of them, Gura included.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:36:00 No.36378538 Report

Quoted By: >>36378610 >>36378710

>>36378377
Not really. The only vods of her that get any views are asmr. Most of her solo streams fail to reach 100k and even her new cover is close to be overtaken by kiaras cover and moris og song. Her ccv is doing pretty good but her vod views aren't

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:36:52 No.36378569 Report

Quoted By: >>36378623 >>36378736

>>36378350
??? Kobo is still getting 200k gameplay vods and good midrange vods with ass games with ease it's the Valorant and awful timeslots for Indonesia that her audience is tired of

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:37:04 No.36378574 Report

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>>36378431
It is not Pekora complaining about her growth, mate, it's Kiara.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:37:18 No.36378579 Report

Quoted By: >>36378681

>>36377789
Yes I do, her time slot if all over the place and so is the lenght of her streams. She can start anytime from 3 PM to 8 PM, you want to build a loyal audience and be part of their routine. You want people to come home from work/school and know they will watch 3 hours of Kiara streams before going to sleep.
>>36377883
Yes unironically. And it's not just Kiara, everyone except for Gura needs it. They need to expand the HoloEN box, afterwards fans will flock to a talent or the other. Either try to get back some old HoloEN fans with some huge events or try to breach into the mainstream with another killer gen that goes viral, doing it alone is a massive task and depends a lot on luck.
>>36378330
It's shit and the main reason I avoid indies and 2views. I'm here to have a good time and be entertained, watching someone be miserable and depressed because they are failing is a dreadful experience.
Same thing applies to Kiara too, she has this underlying desperate menhera vibe especially when she starts tryharding and forcing shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:37:56 No.36378607 Report

Quoted By: >>36378675

Numberfagging on stream is precisely why I don't watch people like Kiara. And its so common on twitch too.
I'd be tuning into some 3 view playing a game, thinking this is fine for background stuff and I might return when he starts ranting about GROWTH and PLATFORMS and VIEWS and I'm like play the fucking game, monkey. That's what my tourist ass is here for.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:38:00 No.36378610 Report

Quoted By: >>36378745

>>36378538
I'm sure you got Data on how everyone else in EN gets above 100k from all their vods then? Since that seems to be your requirement not being "extremely low".

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:38:18 No.36378623 Report

Quoted By: >>36378815 >>36378893

>>36378569
pedos don't have many streams to watch since gura is barely going live these days.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:39:59 No.36378675 Report

Quoted By:

>>36378607
this but also why I don't watch vesper

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:40:00 No.36378677 Report

Quoted By: >>36379394

>>36378013
I see, found them
>AZKi 72時 MV
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhZhToV4gv5cQEd2lR5afTX4cwWvYEJfv
>1 MV privated
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhZhToV4gv5fTSomUITiME0CTGUuVIQI
>2 MVs privated, 1 members only
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhZhToV4gv5e3il-Ze4fAIml6E6j_hdmQ
>5 MVs privated, 2 members only
The new UI doesn't show playlist replays any longer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:40:04 No.36378678 Report

Quoted By: >>36378729

What did Kiara do this time?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:40:07 No.36378681 Report

Quoted By: >>36378847

>>36378579
>They need to expand the HoloEN box
Unironically this, in my mind the box works like a train that goes through the day and drops of passengers on various stations, in EN several cars or even tracks are missing between streams to motivate anyone from continuing to watch after somebody has ended their stream.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:41:06 No.36378710 Report

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>>36378070
Fauna's sub growth is in the upper middle of the pack for Hololive. That's mostly down to Hololive mostly having anemic sub growth outside of like 10 people plus the IDs
>>36378538
Her vod views are actually pretty good for her sub count.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:41:45 No.36378729 Report

Quoted By: >>36378889

>>36378678
She talked about new ways to grow? Other than some bad apples here and there it caused some pretty civil discussion, complete opposite of when she mentioned it last time.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:42:04 No.36378736 Report

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>>36378569
>is still getting 200k gameplay vods and good midrange vods with ass games with ease
You might have misunderstood the point.

The point is not that Kobo numbers are small (they're not), is that her viewership is going at the opposite direction of her subs growth.
Her subs are growing and both her live and her VOD viewership are reclining

If Kiara would focus on growing her subs that would definitely not necessarily mean growing her audience.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:42:10 No.36378741 Report

Quoted By:

>>36372506
I don't feel much of anything, really.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:42:12 No.36378745 Report

Quoted By: >>36378865

>>36378610
More than 100k used to be the minimum to determin failure just a year ago. Mori can still do it with a few streams and gura of course

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:42:14 No.36378748 Report

Quoted By: >>36378862 >>36379023

Gura is the anti thesis of Kiara, both her personality and design.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:42:16 No.36378751 Report

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>>36368445

Recent clip numbers
>>36352848
>>36352866
>>36352925
>>36352943
>>36353066

Median of peaks + True Average, October 2022, Kaigai only
>>36317229
Median of Peaks, October 2022
>>36319731
Median of Peaks, full table, October 2022
>>36322197
true average table, top 50, 5 or more streams in October 2022
>>36353875

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:43:18 No.36378786 Report

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list of the dead/dying indies/small corpos

>RyeProject https://twitter.com/RyeProject
>Fen Riru https://twitter.com/fenriruvt
>Sylvia Sorano https://twitter.com/sylviasorano
>Castella Inomori https://twitter.com/CastellaInomori
>Melonbread https://twitter.com/melonbread_69
>Raina Chiwawa https://twitter.com/RaniaChiwawa
>Usami https://twitter.com/usami_vt
>Aozora Kurumi https://twitter.com/AozoraKurumi **
>Sayu Okami https://twitter.com/SayuOkami
>Makoto & Akira Misaki https://twitter.com/ggnlive_withyou
>Selkie https://twitter.com/SelkieVT
>LexParteVT https://twitter.com/LexParteVT
>Chaos https://twitter.com/lordcommandervt
>MoonJelly https://twitter.com/moonjelly0
>Juliet Winters https://twitter.com/juiietwinters
>Suika Emi https://twitter.com/suikaemi

places to end up for these girls include
>NijisanjiEN wave 7 if dual wave with Iluna exists
>HoloEN3 which has been running 'open auds' all year so far
>Tsunderia auditions entered "second stage" on Aug 27th low likelihood for some of these girls now

** RRAT: Aozora Kurumi is reincarnating into Indie vtuber Auregalia Aruri

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:43:36 No.36378799 Report

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I sure love watching HoloEN streams

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:44:10 No.36378815 Report

Quoted By: >>36378874

>>36378623
>barely going live these days.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:44:33 No.36378837 Report

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> Gen 3
63 gold
> Gen 2
38 gold
> Gen 0
28 gold
------------------------------------------------------------------
>Gamers
14 gold
> Gen 4
12 gold
> Gen 6
10 gold
------------------------------------------------------------------
> EN 1
7 gold
> Gen 5
7 gold
> Gen 1
7 gold
------------------------------------------------------------------
> ID 1
1 gold
> ID 3
1 gold
> EN 2
1 gold
------------------------------------------------------------------
>ID 2
0 gold

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:44:47 No.36378847 Report

Quoted By: >>36378927 >>36378982 >>36379041 >>36379047

>>36378681
But it's unironically not EN's fault. JP isn't some well oiled machine of women working together, there's just enough of them for the pieces to fall into place.
11 talents in 2 years+ is a mistake, and Cover itself does not take EN and ID seriously to have staggered new gens for them like this, and never will. A middle point between NijiEN debut pace and HoloEN would have helped kept the pace.

If cover really intends to release a new EN gen every 400 days, outfits once a year, keep staggering 3d and creating basically no group content assisted by management (like JP/ID and HomoJP do) then we might as well give up. The company itself refuses to help and is just collecting their Myth Merch money.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:45:11 No.36378862 Report

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>>36378748
No, that's Ina, yet Ina and Kiara are one of the best combo's in EN.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:45:14 No.36378865 Report

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>>36378745
So what I wrote in my first post? I think you just got an extremely skewed view of what extremely low vod views are for someone with 650k subs.

Here is Ame in comparison with over twice the subs.
Over 1 million subs more, but worse vod views on most stuff compared to Fauna.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:45:24 No.36378872 Report

Quoted By:

Would you guys say this is a good way of making MVs?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfyxnju3JC0

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:45:27 No.36378874 Report

Quoted By: >>36378936 >>36378944

>>36378815
she streamed not even 350 hours this YEAR.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:45:56 No.36378889 Report

Quoted By:

>>36378729
Because Kiara herself was being somewhat civil about it too, even if people get angry at her.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:46:01 No.36378893 Report

Quoted By: >>36379037

>>36378623
Gura streams too much for my chumbud ass nowadays. 5 hours of Mortis, dios mio!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:46:43 No.36378918 Report

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>>36373855
and it's here to stay, ad infinitum ad nauseam

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:46:46 No.36378922 Report

Quoted By: >>36379156 >>36379228

October total views

Individual

------------------------------------------------------- 10M line
>Mori (Hololive) 9,680,291
>Gura (Hololive) 8,510,071
------------------------------------------------------- 7.5M line
>Luca (Nijisanji) 5,736,021
------------------------------------------------------- 5M line
>Vox (Nijisanji) 4,818,060
>Kiara (Hololive) 4,233,668
------------------------------------------------------- 4M line
>Mysta (Nijisanji) 3,816,562
>Fauna (Hololive) 3,645,056
>Mumei (Hololive) 3,469,429
>Pomu (Nijisanji) 3,430,065
>Selen (Nijisanji) 3,297,451
>Baelz (Hololive) 3,051,514
------------------------------------------------------- 3M line
>Amelia (Hololive) 2,887,735
>Enna (Nijisanji) 2,683,363
>Ren (Nijisanji) 2,505,035
>IRyS (Hololive) 2,489,128
>Millie (Nijisanji) 2,309,171
>Shu (Nijisanji) 2,167,363
>Uki (Nijisanji) 2,098,102
>Alban (Nijisanji) 2,012,709
------------------------------------------------------- 2M line
>Marie (Nijisanji) 1,814,853
>Finana (Nijisanji) 1,794,017
>Ike (Nijisanji) 1,763,628
>Elira (Nijisanji) 1,635,248
>Axel (Holostars) 1,489,783
>Nina (Nijisanji) 1,460,945
>Magni (Holostars) 1,442,592
>Kronii (Hololive) 1,429,557
>Fulgur (Nijisanji) 1,333,512
>Ina (Hololive) 1,329,534
>Kyo (Nijisanji) 1,241,449
>Regis (Holostars) 1,131,979
>Noir (Holostars) 1,120,111
>Scarle (Nijisanji) 1,070,047
>Yugo (Nijisanji) 1,024,587
>Sonny (Nijisanji) 1,019,568
------------------------------------------------------- 1M line
>Reimu (Nijisanji) 831,148
>Rosemi (Nijisanji) 792,466
>Aia (Nijisanji) 648,089
>Aster (Nijisanji) 616,394
>Petra (Nijisanji) 225,703

Group
>Myth 26,641,299
>Luxiem 18,301,634
>Council 11,595,556
>ILUNA 7,895,867
>Noctyx 7,488,478
>Ethyria 7,284,627
>LazuLight 6,859,330
>Tempus 5,184,465
>Obsydia 4,315,620
>Hope 2,489,128

total
>Nijisanji EN 52,145,556 (With official ch 59,680,447)
>HoloPro EN 45,910,448 (With official ch 47,516,974)
>Hololive EN 40,725,983 (With official ch 42,307,700)
>Holostars EN 5,184,465 (With official ch 5,209,274)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:46:51 No.36378927 Report

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>>36378847
Pretty much this, the recent holoween event is just helping in reinforcing how little of a fuck they actually give with the talents themselves asking for engagement to motivate them to do something for them

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:47:02 No.36378936 Report

Quoted By:

>>36378874
She streamed like 60 hours in the last 30ish days, anon. Get with the times.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:47:19 No.36378944 Report

Quoted By:

>>36378874
>barely going live this year
True
>barely going live these days
False

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:48:33 No.36378982 Report

Quoted By: >>36379038

>>36378847
>there's just enough of them for the pieces to fall into place.
That I can agree.
If HoloJP had stopped with JP1 and JP2, even if they added JP3 they would be ABSOLUTELY fucked today

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:49:44 No.36379023 Report

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>>36378748
or is it Mori.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:49:54 No.36379032 Report

Quoted By: >>36379156

Gifted memberships for Holos, October 2022

>3,359: Nene
>3,327: Pekora
>2,714: Chloe
>2,123: Fubuki
>1,827: Haachama
>1,616: Watame
>1,424: Luna
>1,393: Lui
>952: Koyori
>881: Kaela
>820: Matsuri
>774: IRyS
>753: Flare
>680: Kanata
>634: Fauna
>585: Sora
>583: Miko
>515: Bae
>423: Kiara
>402: Mumei
>376: Gura
>333: Marine
>283: Ame
>281: Noel
>276: Ollie
>271: Mel
>249: Zeta
>198: Reine
>191: Towa
>170: Polka
>167: Risu
>161: Anya
>153: Botan
>148: Iofi
>129: Kobo
>128: Korone
>121: Roboco
>117: Moona
>90: Laplus
>86: Suisei
>82: Lamy, Mori
>81: Ina
>75: Okayu
>70: AZKi
>10: Iroha

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:50:00 No.36379037 Report

Quoted By:

>>36378893
Oh shit i didn't watched it yet, did she finished the game?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:50:03 No.36379038 Report

Quoted By: >>36379133

>>36378982
What a world we live in when doing retarded nijisanji acceleration is the way forward since they have become so incredibly anemic otherwise

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:50:05 No.36379041 Report

Quoted By: >>36379203 >>36379346

>>36378847
It's both, obviously management is the biggest problem but the girls are also barely trying. Why the fuck did they all drop MC when it was a huge source of easy viewers? Where is my second episode of Gura's BBG or even more Wrestling streams considering both were a huge success? Why do they have such trouble collabing with each other? What the fuck is Kronii even doing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:50:17 No.36379047 Report

Quoted By: >>36379340

>>36378847
They legit need a Fubuki or Marine to get management's asses in gear but those kinds of people don't grow on trees. And the girl's, all of them, need to be united in this shit. The issue is that they're not, and for the most part aside from Gura and maybe Fauna, most of them don't really mind the current state of things.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:50:57 No.36379071 Report

Quoted By: >>36379156 >>36379186 >>36379227 >>36379303 >>36379336

I really don't get why kiara is complaining. She still gets some of the highest sc and her vod views are always the 3rd highest in en. The only thing doing badly seems to be her ccv and that can only be fixed if she streams at a timeslot where na can watch

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:52:29 No.36379127 Report

Quoted By:

>>36368445
October 2022 SC
>>36360401
>>36360600
>>36360717

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:52:37 No.36379133 Report

Quoted By: >>36379215

>>36379038
To build a box. Didn’t jp gen 0-3 + gamers all come out within 2 years or so. EN as it currently is can barely survive because they were carried by myth for an entire year and council didn’t have the explosive growth to support myth’s carrying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:53:17 No.36379156 Report

Quoted By:

>>36379071
Seriously. She needs to stop comparing herself to gura>>36378922
Even in gufted memberships she is average>>36379032
By en standarts at least

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:53:25 No.36379159 Report

Quoted By: >>36379237 >>36379360 >>36379375

Now that's fucking GRIM

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:54:00 No.36379186 Report

Quoted By:

>>36379071
Eh, I don't think she was really complaining this time, more so felt like she was discussing ways to grow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:54:20 No.36379203 Report

Quoted By: >>36379241 >>36379324

>>36379041
>Why the fuck did they all drop MC when it was a huge source of easy viewers?
Unironically, why did they do this?
I can even understand not wanting to build map art #362 but I don't get why EN basically dropped the game outright.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:54:34 No.36379215 Report

Quoted By:

>>36379133
Even if Council would have exploded would that even have fixed anything? EN needs numbers and that number is the number of members

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:54:50 No.36379227 Report

Quoted By: >>36379285

>>36379071
The answer is of course that vod views and sc don't mean as much as some of the troglodytes here would have you believe. Watch time (not watch hours) is more important. SC is nice but probably not the majority of her income given how big the Myth brand is.
Also, she can probably see how her lamps are selling so much slower than her genmates.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:54:51 No.36379228 Report

Quoted By: >>36379309

>>36378922
Despite cramming out MVs she barely beat Gura. kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:55:10 No.36379237 Report

Quoted By:

>>36379159
>More fucking COD
These guys are retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:55:16 No.36379241 Report

Quoted By:

>>36379203
Fauna tried, but 1 person can't keep a server alive.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:55:27 No.36379246 Report

Quoted By:

For JP equivalent, after 2 JP had
-Gen 0
-Gen 1
-Gamers
-Gen3

5 months later, Gen4 would debut

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:56:27 No.36379285 Report

Quoted By: >>36379387

>>36379227
They are selling slower yes but the differnce is much smaller than it used to be with other merch

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:56:47 No.36379303 Report

Quoted By:

>>36379071
Kiara wants to be more popular because:
1. She thinks her audience will leave her if she takes any kind of extended break,1 month or longer (they wont).
2.She knows the EU market is the least utilized and thinks it has room for growth.
3.Eventualy she wants to get to a point in the future where she streams way less, but has higher ccv to make up for it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:57:01 No.36379309 Report

Quoted By:

>>36379228
>Despite cramming out MVs she barely beat Gura
Most of her views are from old songs still getting replays, basically.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:57:18 No.36379324 Report

Quoted By: >>36379355

>>36379203
It's sad because Fauna even tried to get CouncilRyS to start playing again but nope

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:57:40 No.36379336 Report

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>>36379071
Didn't feel like she was complaining about it this time

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:57:44 No.36379340 Report

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>>36379047
>They legit need a Fubuki or Marine to get management's asses in gear but those kinds of people don't grow on trees
There is another difference too. Japanese workplace is STRICTLY based on seniority, not in work title meaning Sora and Fubuki, for instance, and even Marine can and absolutely outrank even a senior manager that onboarded after 2020.
Given how much the company hired and grew after that period, any of the older girls with balls to "pull rank" have lots of leverage, and many of the girls were disclosed to do just that: Towa, Marine and Suisei come to mind.

That doesn't fly in North America where a fresh out of college just hired "Vice President of Social Media Outreach" can and will outrank employee #2 in the company and will likely do the opposite of what he's being requested just to establish his authority

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:57:52 No.36379346 Report

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>>36379041
>What the fuck is Kronii even doing?
Not giving a single shit. Do you know how fucked it is that they had to get Kaela to join because their own genmate wouldn't? Sure, Kronii is also a coward, but that would've unironically made it even better. But no no no, she's in fuck offsville doing who knows fucking what. The same shit with the fucking Fall Guys with Haachama, where the fuck was Kronii? Why is it always her?
>B-But she joined Snotcast
But SNOT isn't her fucking gen. It is still missing Bae.

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:57:59 No.36379351 Report

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Tempus killed the en box because they destroyed what was unique about hololive. Male collabs being rare was always a thing with jp

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:58:03 No.36379355 Report

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>>36379324
I sometimes get the feeling that Fauna understands the issues and is doing her best to do something about it

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:58:08 No.36379360 Report

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>>36379159
they are all going to raid Axel for more views lol

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:58:29 No.36379375 Report

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>>36379159
D-Delete this…

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:58:45 No.36379387 Report

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>>36379285
>but the differnce is much smaller than it used to be with other merch
She got outsold by Reine. That gotta sting

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Anonymous Tue 01 Nov 2022 22:58:57 No.36379394 Report

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>>36378677
>The new UI doesn't show playlist replays any longer.
Wait, playlists got new UI too?
Fuck, my extension to check for how long playlists are no longer works

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