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Anonymous Wed 22 Mar 2023 00:03:08 No.45655178 View View Reply Original Report

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It might be just me and i don't blame you guys for liking it but if you weren't there to enjoy the Fes live, what's the point in watching it on stream? i mean it's all prerecorded (the band on the sides seems to be at least playing the instruments live, or pretending to) so i don't understand the appeal. What's the appeal to you anon? i want to know

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Anonymous Wed 22 Mar 2023 00:03:45 No.45655208 Report

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I jacked off and came pretty hard to Bae.

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Anonymous Wed 22 Mar 2023 00:05:35 No.45655298 Report

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>>45655178
Because I love Hololive, you silly

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Mar 2023 00:06:45 No.45655373 Report

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>>45655178
You've never watched a live concert? same shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Mar 2023 00:08:39 No.45655507 Report

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>>45655298
yeah i get that and if you paid to support them that's cool, i just don't understand why is the show not actually live you know? i think the people paying deserve that

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Anonymous Wed 22 Mar 2023 00:08:48 No.45655511 Report

Quoted By: >>45657138

>live music
>hype crowd
>cute girls
if you don't get the appeal then idk what to tell you anon

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Anonymous Wed 22 Mar 2023 00:09:42 No.45655573 Report

Quoted By: >>45655795 >>45656381 >>45664349

>>45655178
Cuz the Online experience is the better experience dummy, those who are on Stage only see a Huge ass Monitor having The Talents sing and dance while moving left to right.

Meanwhile us Online Peeps see the performance in multiple Best Angles possible

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Anonymous Wed 22 Mar 2023 00:11:54 No.45655729 Report

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>>45655507
Can you imagine Ina trying to sing and do a dance routine live? These aren't professional stage performers they're livestreamers. Maybe a half dozen out of all of them have the skills to sing and dance live. At least they actually do dance their part, even if it's prerecorded, rather than just hire dancers like Nijisanji does. That feels even less authentic.

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Anonymous Wed 22 Mar 2023 00:11:57 No.45655731 Report

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>>45655507
Logistics, wanting to avoid issues in a big event, I really don't know. I want to support them, I want more events like this and I enjoy the big show, that's why I pay

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Mar 2023 00:13:12 No.45655795 Report

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>>45655573
>Best Angles possible
kekekekekek

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Anonymous Wed 22 Mar 2023 00:14:07 No.45655849 Report

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>>45655507
Neither are vods and that never stopped me from enjoying those.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Mar 2023 00:16:25 No.45656018 Report

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>>45655729
does niji hire dancers? first i've heard this rrat

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Mar 2023 00:18:15 No.45656140 Report

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>>45655178
I went to day 1 and 2 of fes and it's definitely a totally different (and amazing) experience live vs just watching it on stream, but even just watching the deco 27 stream was enjoyable
Just seeing the people you've been following for years performing together on a big stage with a huge crowd cheering them on really gets you pumping

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Anonymous Wed 22 Mar 2023 00:18:48 No.45656182 Report

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>>45656018
I've seen it mentioned many times but there's never proof

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Anonymous Wed 22 Mar 2023 00:19:08 No.45656221 Report

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>>45655178
The appeal is honestly to see your oshi perform and if you’re with other fans it’s like enjoying a live with your own kind. I watched it live and I was in my oshi’s chat for the live with other fans and was really good. I haven’t been in a concert in my entire life (mostly because I don’t like the music that is listened to where I live) so it was a pretty nice experience.
Having said that while I know the music is a track I think the dance is live. Is there proof the dance is also prerecorded? I’m very bad calling that out.

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Anonymous Wed 22 Mar 2023 00:20:23 No.45656357 Report

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>>45655178
>i don't understand the appeal
What is the story behind your oshi anon? Why is she doing this vtuber stuff? As a hobby? To collect simpbux? For hololive, this is the culmination of their hardwork, the long wait and the pains to get there, all leads to this stage. Their spotlight, that few minutes to show everyone your best and as an appreciation for each and every fan's support. It's a success story filled with singing, dancing, colors and festivities. And it continues to showcase new talents everytime from a treerrat diva to a dancing pop rat. Finally, remember that not everything lasts forever and these moments are hopefully looked back upon kindly as hololive in its glory days.

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Anonymous Wed 22 Mar 2023 00:20:33 No.45656381 Report

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>>45655573
I've been to esports tourneys before and it's true. Sometimes you literally can't see shit on those big ass monitors if you're looking at them at the wrong angle. Worst part is that I got to enter for free and was sitting in a VIP box. I can imagine that people sitting at the side don't have the best view of the concert.

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Anonymous Wed 22 Mar 2023 00:21:32 No.45656471 Report

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>>45655178
it's about the atmosphere. Even if I'm not among the crowd the camera and stream does a good job of giving the audience at home perspective of how many people are there. It's also about everyone coming together to share their love of hololive because everyone has a reason to tune in. Having every holomem perform something on stage is special because for most that's typically only 3-5 times a year on birthdays, anniversaries, and events and this one has a high budget so the performance itself is guarenteed to be high quality. Having your oishi show what shes got in her performance to other fans of hololive who might not be familiar with her feels good too.

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Anonymous Wed 22 Mar 2023 00:22:33 No.45656558 Report

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>>45655178
Same as watching their karaoke live...than waiting for the clippers. Plus giving support so they continue making more.

Having low ticket sales may be part of the reason AR was canceled.

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Anonymous Wed 22 Mar 2023 00:25:19 No.45656764 Report

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I usually just wait until the blu ray comes out so I have the option to watch it whenever I want, plus it usually comes with a few other things.

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Anonymous Wed 22 Mar 2023 00:26:54 No.45656942 Report

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>>45656381
The screens were very large and high resolution
My bud that was sitting on the 2F sides said it was fine

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Mar 2023 00:27:07 No.45656966 Report

Quoted By: >>45657528 >>45662594

>>45655178
>it's all prerecorded
Your oshi might have had a pre-recorded performance, but mine broke formation when the song was fading out to yell out a thank you, bouncing around the stage.
If you think she just faked all that in a recording booth, you might actually be a fucking robot, which would explain why you "don't understand the appeal", so there you go.

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Anonymous Wed 22 Mar 2023 00:29:04 No.45657138 Report

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>>45655511
pretty much
its that simple
if you don't get it, you're not the target audience

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Mar 2023 00:33:23 No.45657472 Report

Quoted By: >>45657611 >>45662256 >>45662440

>>45656558
Honestly the tickets are dumb expensive. It’s not even funny how expensive that shit is. Isn’t it like 50$ per concert? If you wanted to watch the entire fes it would be like 150$. 150$ to watch a live on stream on a shitty platform where buffering happens when you could just wait 1 day to watch it fully for free.
Music festivals aren’t that expensive and you get to watch a lot of bands live in front of you. That fact the venue ticket was like 10$ more expensive than the streaming ticket is insane.

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Anonymous Wed 22 Mar 2023 00:34:18 No.45657528 Report

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>>45656966
That's... Entirely plausible to do, I don't get your point

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Mar 2023 00:35:26 No.45657611 Report

Quoted By: >>45658374 >>45663402

>>45657472
If you are not willing to pay for it, you are not the target audience

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Mar 2023 00:37:41 No.45657765 Report

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>>45657138
exactly. i do agree with all the other anons who are saying because it's your oshis chance for the spotlight. all year long it's building up to this moment. even if your oshi is less popular, this is a chance they have to show everybody what they're made of. ollie and bae were both newbies and they came out the shining stars. can't imagine how fucking hype fans of theirs were watching them

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Mar 2023 00:46:38 No.45658374 Report

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>>45657611
That’s retarded. I saw some fellow japanese fans who couldn’t watch it because they are students or didn’t have the money yet they buy the merch and the stuff my oshi sells every single time.
“If you are not blindly paying overpriced tickets then you aren’t the target audience” my ass. The only thing they gain from making it so expensive is paywalling hardcore fans who don’t have over 200$ to buy the tickets, normalfags won’t buy them no matter the price.

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Anonymous Wed 22 Mar 2023 00:55:42 No.45658995 Report

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>>45658374
If you're that poor you can just pirate it. And if you feel bad about that just toss them whatever you were willing to spend on tickets on some merch or voice packs or superchats or whatever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Mar 2023 01:05:35 No.45659626 Report

Quoted By: >>45662435 >>45662514 >>45668139

>>45658995
I’m not talking about myself. I explicitly stated the case of japanese fans who buy the merch but don’t have 200$ dollars cash to spend in the live because they are students. Nips don’t pirate because piracy to them is worse than incestuous rape.
To say those guys aren’t the target audience is straight up retarded. Cover is trying to make money and paywalling hard a stream is not exactly the best way to do it. If they made the stream tickets cheaper more people would buy them and that’s exactly the logic behind music festivals around the world: private concerts are more expensive than festivals.

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Anonymous Wed 22 Mar 2023 01:10:55 No.45659957 Report

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>>45655178
>>45655507
Chat. Or /here/. There's merit in experiencing something for the first time at the same time as other people. There'll never be a chance to do that on the same scale as a live premiere, prerecorded or not

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Anonymous Wed 22 Mar 2023 01:14:39 No.45660205 Report

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>>45655178
>I was there LIVE watching the pre recorded even enjoy watching it alone at home pre recorded HA !
ok retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Mar 2023 01:49:16 No.45662256 Report

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>>45657472
There were a million pirate streams. Cost is irrelevant with digital media because anything you want to get for free, you can.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Mar 2023 01:52:17 No.45662435 Report

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>>45659626
Cover isn't the only corpo o does that shit anon, the pratice is already in the industry for years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Mar 2023 01:52:27 No.45662440 Report

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>>45657472
Anon, are you just completely unaware of ticket prices for concerts? Average ticket prices for concerts last year where ~$80, with popular bands shooting up to several hundred. $50 is a honestly a steal.
>when you could just wait 1 day to watch it fully for free.
I'm not paying just to see the concert, I'm also paying to support more content like it in the future. Same reason I have a membership for my oshi, I know she'll use it to put out great entertainment I enjoy.

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Anonymous Wed 22 Mar 2023 01:53:43 No.45662514 Report

Quoted By: >>45667978

>>45659626
Then the students should fuck off considering how easy it is to get a part-time job in Japan. The ticket prices were announced so many months ago that they could have earned $200 in that time. I know so many Japanese people who pirate shit. A lot of them are just smarter than nippleboy, but a lot of them are also stupid enough to get caught and end up in the news.
Concert is already sold out to the point that tickets have to be balloted for. The concert goes on for much longer compared to last year which also means they have to pay increased server costs for streaming, payment for more manpower (setup/dismantle event, helpdesk for virtual event outside office hours), etc. Pricing is pretty fair for a 3 hour concert too.

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Anonymous Wed 22 Mar 2023 01:54:58 No.45662594 Report

Quoted By: >>45662691

>>45656966
The more relevant thing to point out would be Mori singling out the guy in the crowd whose penlight was the wrong color

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Mar 2023 01:56:37 No.45662691 Report

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>>45662594
Or gura saying something in english to the public and receiving no reply from the public because language problems

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Anonymous Wed 22 Mar 2023 02:07:20 No.45663402 Report

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>>45657611
onlyfans logic? you have to be THIS retarded to qualify?

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Anonymous Wed 22 Mar 2023 02:11:10 No.45663630 Report

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>ITT: people who don't understand how supporting the growth of your hobby works.

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Anonymous Wed 22 Mar 2023 02:12:51 No.45663746 Report

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Anonymous Wed 22 Mar 2023 02:13:23 No.45663782 Report

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>>45655178
I love my oshi

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Anonymous Wed 22 Mar 2023 02:16:20 No.45663983 Report

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>>45655178
For the meme, kino, and feels

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Anonymous Wed 22 Mar 2023 02:20:47 No.45664300 Report

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>>45655507
Do you not realize how much of a technical and logistical nightmare that would be?
>>45656182
I’ve seen a webm posted of a bunch of their models doing all sorts of flippy shit and other complicated routines, but I have no clue what the context for it was.

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Anonymous Wed 22 Mar 2023 02:21:35 No.45664349 Report

Quoted By: >>45664519

>>45655573
>>45655795
Can we all agree that camera-man this time fucking suckass compare to the 3rd fes!! Like a lots of miss queue, focus on wrong person who didn't sing, cut to wide angle that can't talents when there are interact/moneyshot dance going on stage, pan to random audience to fucking much, etc...

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Anonymous Wed 22 Mar 2023 02:23:52 No.45664519 Report

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>>45664349

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Anonymous Wed 22 Mar 2023 03:04:31 No.45667394 Report

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>>45655178
It's good, only way for me to pay for the free concerts they do. Also it's one of the cheaper concert ¥6.5k yen per concert. Kanae's shitty live and that 3 niji girls live costs ¥8.5k yen each. So It's practically a steal

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Anonymous Wed 22 Mar 2023 03:05:56 No.45667486 Report

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>>45655178
It's a great show. Honestly the greatest vtuber event every year

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Mar 2023 03:12:39 No.45667978 Report

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>>45662514
Ignore his ass. Probably got his merch from etsy.

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Anonymous Wed 22 Mar 2023 03:15:11 No.45668139 Report

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>>45659626
If you can't save 150 dollars for a once a year event, you're not a real fan. You're not needed anyway. Nobody lost here, you're just a falseflagging retard baiting you's because you got butthurt over something again

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Mar 2023 03:23:43 No.45668715 Report

Quoted By: >>45669203

>>45655373

I've watched plenty of live concerts, they're not prerecorded and I'd say only about 10% at most are lip-syncing.

I don't really get the Fes appeal for non-live at all. I get it a bit in person as it still has that audience feel to it, but yeah, it's 100% per-recorded and I don't get why people act like it's not. A bunch of the EN girls were back in the US and streaming withing half a day of the event ending. It's legitimately not possible to get from Japan to the US / Canada in that time, let alone back to their countries, back to their homes, rested, then setup for their streams.

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Anonymous Wed 22 Mar 2023 03:31:07 No.45669203 Report

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>>45668715
Its funny considering half the people who believe its actually live must be newfags. I think there was a press release back in 2020 by cover explaining the performances were pre recorded due to covid concerns. They havent updated that statement till this day.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Mar 2023 03:31:49 No.45669249 Report

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>>45655178
>It's all pre-record
still sprewing all of your bullshit when there are talk about backstage interaction and clearly a blooper of performance from time to time legit show up ine the Live Concert.
You guys just have no life and should get a rope

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Anonymous Wed 22 Mar 2023 04:40:58 No.45673257 Report

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>>45655178
>the band on the sides seems to be at least playing the instruments live, or pretending to
all of the recordings are synced to a click track. the rhythm section would have the click in their monitor mix, and the rest of the band just needs the rhythm section. it's very bizarre because it's extremely obvious that the vocal mixes are the victims of very, very heavy editing of tons of takes.

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