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Anonymous Thu 06 Apr 2023 22:33:53 No.46783659 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>46785270 >>46789256 >>46789454 >>46789702 >>46790250 >>46794377 >>46801403 >>46801874 >>46812108 >>46817207 >>46818452 >>46819027 >>46819324 >>46819328 >>46828720 >>46830951

Will there ever be a HoloID girl who can’t speak English whatsoever, only Indonesian?
>inb4 Kobo
Kobo can speak English, albeit not greatly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Apr 2023 22:46:45 No.46784329 Report

Quoted By: >>46784408 >>46784544 >>46823126

mooner barely speaks at all, does that count?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Apr 2023 22:48:08 No.46784408 Report

Quoted By: >>46810889

>>46784329
No. Moona speaks English especially frequently enough and also understands the language. Definitely more than Kobo and Iofi.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Apr 2023 22:51:00 No.46784544 Report

Quoted By:

>>46784329
>dyrbi

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Apr 2023 22:54:05 No.46784669 Report

Quoted By: >>46784766

iirc the holoID auditions require you to know both english and indonesian

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Apr 2023 22:56:00 No.46784766 Report

Quoted By: >>46789146 >>46820171

>>46784669
Why? They don’t require this for JP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Apr 2023 23:04:55 No.46785270 Report

Quoted By: >>46785328

>>46783659
No. Otherwise how would they make money?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Apr 2023 23:05:45 No.46785328 Report

Quoted By: >>46789538

>>46785270
None of the JP girls except for Haachama and Lui can speak English and they’re doing okay

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 00:17:42 No.46789146 Report

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>>46784766
Most wealthy IDs speak English to some extents. On the other hand, significant part of nips' young adults / middle-aged don't.
And do you really think ID market is already as big as JP and they can survive by themselves yet?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 00:20:08 No.46789256 Report

Quoted By: >>46789438 >>46830591

>>46783659
unless Yagoo recruits an indonesian girl that live in remote village that barely ever touch modern civilization, no

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 00:24:13 No.46789438 Report

Quoted By: >>46791175 >>46819441

>>46789256
Do you seriously think most people in Jakarta can speak English?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 00:24:34 No.46789454 Report

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>>46783659
>don't speak english
>in modern day 3rd world country
you can't escape english language here

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 00:26:28 No.46789538 Report

Quoted By: >>46819125

>>46785328
That's because the JP audience is large enough (monetarily) to support them. ID is still small, but as Cover considers it a growing market, there may be space for ID-only in the far future.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 00:29:45 No.46789702 Report

Quoted By: >>46791368

>>46783659
>Will there ever be a HoloID girl who can’t make money
Just watch NijiID and MAHA5, bro.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 00:40:29 No.46790250 Report

Quoted By: >>46796069

>>46783659
why? it's a disadvantage. kobo was a tradeoff between blue cute and funny and shit english.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 00:59:12 No.46791175 Report

Quoted By: >>46819441

>>46789438
I'm pretty sure at least most of the millenials there have at minimum some basic english knowledge... right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 01:03:17 No.46791368 Report

Quoted By:

>>46789702
NijiIDers speak English

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 01:55:53 No.46794377 Report

Quoted By: >>46796009 >>46801790

>>46783659
Moona's English gave me cancer, that's worse than not speaking English at all

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 02:19:24 No.46796009 Report

Quoted By: >>46801553

>>46794377
Nice, what stage?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 02:20:17 No.46796069 Report

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>>46790250
Kobo's lack of english s and japanese was why she got so popular, the indonesians felt she was "their girl" since the rest of ID pander to EN and JP. Too bad she collab too much with Stars, do the ID really not care?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 03:25:21 No.46801403 Report

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>>46783659
Probably not, Kobo is the worst you'll get

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 03:26:53 No.46801553 Report

Quoted By: >>46803393

>>46796009
Stage 3A lung cancer

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 03:28:58 No.46801790 Report

Quoted By: >>46803686

>>46794377
Kobo’s English is the most disgusting sounding and it’s not even close
Meanwhile, Ollie, Reine, and Zeta all sound like they’re native

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 03:29:52 No.46801874 Report

Quoted By: >>46803420

>>46783659
That would be disadvantageous for the talent since they would be unable to collab with EN at all

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 03:49:10 No.46803393 Report

Quoted By:

>>46801553
Happy for you

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 03:49:37 No.46803420 Report

Quoted By:

>>46801874
>unable to collab with EN at all
i failed to see any problem here

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 03:53:18 No.46803686 Report

Quoted By: >>46804794 >>46830763

>>46801790
kobo aight tho, till this day i still cant stand kaelas pajeet accent, it kills me

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 03:55:52 No.46803865 Report

Quoted By: >>46804640 >>46804781 >>46819152 >>46828929

Indonesia is just like the Philippines, poor country where everyone speaks English as a second language.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 04:07:48 No.46804640 Report

Quoted By:

>>46803865
wrong, en is the third or fourth language

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 04:10:02 No.46804781 Report

Quoted By:

>>46803865
Not many people in Indonesia can speak English. It’s actually amazing that every single member of HoloID can speak it, many of them fluently.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 04:10:11 No.46804794 Report

Quoted By: >>46804904 >>46811786 >>46830763 >>46831208

>>46803686
It's Singaporean English, I hope she drops it completely, it sounds so disgusting... Fuck that Uncle Roger guy for popularizing that accent again.
Kaela said she wanted to improve her English by joining Hololive, but she's getting way too comfortable with using broken English unironically now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 04:11:37 No.46804904 Report

Quoted By:

>>46804794
At least Uncle Roger can make mad fried rice, FUIYOH

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 04:12:22 No.46804951 Report

Quoted By: >>46805134

Moona

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 04:15:25 No.46805134 Report

Quoted By: >>46805330

>>46804951
Moona can speak English. And speaks it in all her streams, though not as much as Indonesian.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 04:18:49 No.46805330 Report

Quoted By: >>46805935 >>46810952

>>46805134
>can speak English

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 04:27:22 No.46805935 Report

Quoted By: >>46812108

>>46805330
Inability to parse accented or broken English is a sign of low intelligence

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 04:40:34 No.46806793 Report

Quoted By:

>bi-lingual country
>go out of your way to find someone who didn't study in school
>limit potential audience intentionally

Yup, solid business plan

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 06:04:49 No.46810889 Report

Quoted By:

>>46784408
niiba us fycubing incompereheinble

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 06:05:55 No.46810952 Report

Quoted By:

>>46805330
Yes, she speaks English and does it frequently.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 06:22:02 No.46811786 Report

Quoted By: >>46812053

>>46804794
Kaela's accent is mixed with some Indonesian accents, especially Javanese. Pure Singaporean accent is much more unbearable. I do want her to improve her English but I feel like it would be a downgrade if she just had a typical American accent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 06:28:33 No.46812053 Report

Quoted By:

>>46811786
the ESL accents of ID are cute

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 06:29:42 No.46812108 Report

Quoted By:

>>46783659
unless they're a poorfag, uneducated, don't have access to the internet and/or just a boomer, anyone in ID will be able speak or at least understand a bit of english.
>>46805935
NTA but it's not about the accent, moona's pronunciation and grammar is terrible. it has improved since her debut, but not much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 08:48:00 No.46817207 Report

Quoted By:

>>46783659
No. Next question

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 09:31:46 No.46818452 Report

Quoted By: >>46819265

>>46783659
that's not what greatly means
t. ESL

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 09:54:26 No.46819027 Report

Quoted By:

>>46783659
Probably in Gen 4. Kobo’s success as a mostly ID speaking streamer has definitely gotten management’s attention plus EN and JP rarely collabs with ID as is so they don’t even worry about needing any proficiency in either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 09:57:51 No.46819125 Report

Quoted By: >>46819290

>>46789538
ID market isn't small, just poor. (Currency-wise.)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 09:58:53 No.46819152 Report

Quoted By:

>>46803865
wrong, indo is the second language for me, chinese is the first, eng is the third.

im indo btw

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 10:03:35 No.46819265 Report

Quoted By: >>46820226

>>46818452
Hello friend. Although unusual, his use of that word is still technically correct.
>t. Native English speaker.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 10:04:34 No.46819290 Report

Quoted By:

>>46819125
Yes, that's why I referred to their markets and not their populations. Though it's also true that viewership for ID members would need to grow in order to justify ID-only members

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 10:05:43 No.46819324 Report

Quoted By:

>>46783659
Why? They'll keep doing that until they can mog holoEN with their numbers, and then that branch would finally fall apart, jesus christ

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 10:06:05 No.46819328 Report

Quoted By: >>46819510

>>46783659
Why the entire fuck would they? If they didn't speak English they'd have even worse numbers

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 10:11:23 No.46819441 Report

Quoted By:

>>46789438
NTA I seriously think that, but I'm a NEET Jakartan. I never leave my house enough to really have an image of how reality works. But yeah I agree >>46791175 the Millenials should be pretty okay. At worst it's at Moona's level.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 10:14:56 No.46819510 Report

Quoted By: >>46819658 >>46819727 >>46822851 >>46830975

>>46819328
FUCK ENGLISH, JAWA ADALAH KOENTJI! KELUARLAH PENDJAJAH KULIT PUTIH!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 10:21:45 No.46819658 Report

Quoted By:

>>46819510
>*DJAWA ADALAH KOENTJI! KELOEARLAH PENDJADJAH KOELIT POETIH
ftfy

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 10:25:25 No.46819727 Report

Quoted By: >>46820108 >>46821302

>>46819510
lucu, tapi mindset gini yang bikin negara ga maju nih kalo serius. masih terpaku sama sejarah. udah gaada penjajah bang, bisa ngomong inggris tuh ladang duit tambahan buat streamer... kalo tertarik nonton yang full indo ya cari di grup yang kecilan aja kek Maha5 ato korpo lain, biasanya emang ga terlalu fokus profit jadi masih nerima kandidat yang inggrisnya minim mungkin.
gatau juga sih, jarang lirik stream vtuber Indo

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 10:41:31 No.46820108 Report

Quoted By: >>46820247 >>46822944

>>46819727
jangan mau di perbudak oleh ingris maupun monyet monyet jepang

ini adalah kolonialisme zaman moderen

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 10:44:02 No.46820171 Report

Quoted By:

>>46784766
because there are no japs speaking indo, which means they wouldn't be able to find any managers for them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 10:46:13 No.46820226 Report

Quoted By:

>>46819265
Oh, good to know then

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 10:47:07 No.46820247 Report

Quoted By: >>46821302

>>46820108
bikin perusahaan vtuber sendiri bang kalo mau memperkuat bangsa gitu.. hololive emang perusahaan jepang, jelas akan ngambil potongan gaji HoloID dan ngelakuin seleksi yang ga 100% menguntungkan Indonesia (secara ga langsung diskriminasi ke yang cuma bisa bahasa Indo kalo emang cuma nerima yang bisa inggris)
penggunaan bahasa tetep di tangan talentnya sih. emang udah keputusan sendiri harusnya, gatau ya kalo behind the scene emang disuruh halus buat ngomong inggris, tapi gabisa ditolak kalo itu emang akan lebih untung finansial

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 11:24:03 No.46821302 Report

Quoted By: >>46821614

>>46820247
>>46819727
>t.jakartroon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 11:33:37 No.46821614 Report

Quoted By: >>46822070

>>46821302
believe what you want buddy. I'm not a tranny, I just have gay friends from highschool and I'm not that involved in the LGBT community any further than that. just live and let live.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 11:45:37 No.46822070 Report

Quoted By: >>46822162

>>46821614
Didn't ask schizo

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 11:48:35 No.46822162 Report

Quoted By: >>46822233

>>46822070
ok. anything else?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 11:50:19 No.46822233 Report

Quoted By:

>>46822162

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 12:01:19 No.46822629 Report

Quoted By: >>46822739 >>46822980 >>46823093

How do i learn bahasa IDbros

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 12:04:20 No.46822739 Report

Quoted By:

>>46822629
That's the neat part, you don't

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 12:07:00 No.46822851 Report

Quoted By:

>>46819510
Based as fuck. Java supremacy is the best! Fuck everyone else!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 12:08:58 No.46822944 Report

Quoted By: >>46823111

>>46820108
what are words like "kolonialisme" and "moderen" doing in your precious bahasa indonesia?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 12:09:47 No.46822980 Report

Quoted By:

>>46822629
I doubt there's high quality content to learn from, but I've heard from a random video-essayist (youtube.com/watch?v=J_EQDtpYSNM , also TL;DR in pinned comment) that the best way to learn languages is to watch something that helps you make connection to what-sounds-mean-what-things, such as with cartoons for kids, as autistic or cringe such a process will be.

movies are definitely the 2nd best way even though they'll have lots of slang thrown in.
the less effective but more dedicated way, is to constantly open a dictionary while going through Indonesian text or those other forms of Indonesian media. once you feel like you're decent, go from Bilingual Dictionaries to Monolingual ones definitely. it helped me learn English quicker at least, but idk if the reverse is true.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 12:12:18 No.46823093 Report

Quoted By: >>46823224

>>46822629
if you are not joking go to /asean/ archive there is Sweden guy who fluent in bahasa and doing bike trip in Indonesia, he learn Indonesia from watching YouTube.
you can cek Milhya on YouTube he make sovietwomble kind video editing, it will make you easier to understand the language because it has the funny subtitles thingy

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 12:12:37 No.46823111 Report

Quoted By: >>46823287

>>46822944
NTA, seems to me that anon was implying that what's happening in holo rn is a form of modern colonialism, even if not blatant. unless your point was something else other than asking for clarification?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 12:13:00 No.46823126 Report

Quoted By: >>46823162

>>46784329
Her ESL is charming, hush

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 12:13:54 No.46823162 Report

Quoted By:

>>46823126
ESL will always be charming when it comes from a cute anime girl. being a cute girl makes anything you do be forgiven!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 12:15:15 No.46823224 Report

Quoted By:

>>46823093
oh, he uploads like daily vlogs of his bike trips? should be pretty good learning material!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 12:16:57 No.46823287 Report

Quoted By: >>46823343

>>46823111
just the irony of railing against colonialism in a mongrel language shaped through colonialism

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 12:18:29 No.46823343 Report

Quoted By: >>46824022

>>46823287
yep, I hope that anon is just being satirical. if so, then I have to clap out of respect. it's slightly funny.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 12:33:33 No.46824022 Report

Quoted By: >>46826430 >>46826756

>>46823343
BACOTTT INDONESIA NUMBER 1 CANTRY STRONGGGG SUPERPOWAR BY 2020 SIR

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 13:24:02 No.46826430 Report

Quoted By:

>>46824022
>SUPERPOWAR
Lol superpower is overrated. Instead aim something higher like THE GALACTIC CALIPHATE

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 13:30:17 No.46826756 Report

Quoted By:

>>46824022
go to /pol/ if you wanna boast about how great this damn country is.

siap diketawain aja.

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Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 13:33:01 No.46826885 Report

Quoted By: >>46827003 >>46830458 >>46830939

I want a HoloEN girl who can't speak English at all and has to learn the language completely from scratch by interacting with chat (also she isn't allowed to speak her own language)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 13:35:13 No.46827003 Report

Quoted By:

>>46826885
will be filtered by auditions day 1. that's the way it goes once you get literally 500+ applicants every time. but I'd love to see that regardless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 14:09:33 No.46828720 Report

Quoted By: >>46831402

>>46783659
Ollie would hate her guts just like she hates her ID fans who doesn't speak english (someone bring the clip, I lost it)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 14:13:11 No.46828929 Report

Quoted By:

>>46803865
nah, English is 3rd language at best for most Indo

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 14:42:33 No.46830458 Report

Quoted By:

>>46826885
>unironically wanting another meloco

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 14:45:05 No.46830591 Report

Quoted By:

>>46789256
I'm pretty sure Rainych Ran doesn't speak English.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 14:48:13 No.46830763 Report

Quoted By:

>>46803686
>>46804794
I like Kaela's accent and I'm EOP. Sounding too western take away some of the uniqueness of the chuuba.
Actual Singlish speaker speaks English like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7z4CE3mXkEw

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 14:51:32 No.46830939 Report

Quoted By:

>>46826885
That was Tenma Maemi in 2021.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 14:51:45 No.46830951 Report

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>>46783659
All right, if you WERE to advise Moona or any other HoloID/JP on how to improve their English pronunciation, what do YOU advise, anon? English coach? Listening to EN radio/podcasts?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 14:52:10 No.46830975 Report

Quoted By:

>>46819510
>JAWA ADALAH KOENTJI!
Back to the construction site, labor-kun

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 14:56:52 No.46831208 Report

Quoted By:

>>46804794
>Uncle Roger guy
Can't unsee now, thank you

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Apr 2023 15:00:17 No.46831402 Report

Quoted By:

>>46828720
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbyQaZZMDkM
0.75x recommended

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