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Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 14:48:43 No.47669670 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>47669738 >>47669772 >>47669871 >>47669926 >>47670816 >>47671164 >>47671764 >>47676557 >>47676937 >>47678773 >>47679459 >>47683372 >>47688755 >>47689236 >>47691009 >>47693345 >>47696805 >>47699721

over 1000 people watching seems like a pretty respectable amount
i will never understand numberfags

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 14:50:19 No.47669726 Report

Quoted By: >>47707207

1k is extremely high by EN standards, yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 14:50:35 No.47669738 Report

Quoted By: >>47669772

>>47669670
IT'S BEEN OVER 2 MINUTES AND YOUR SHIT THREAD HAS JUST ONE REPLY
YOU SUCK AT NUMBERS EVEN IN SHITPOSTING
DOOOOOOORYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 14:51:54 No.47669772 Report

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>>47669670
you watch chuubas over 200 views?
>>47669738
bump ya cunt

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Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 14:54:15 No.47669871 Report

Quoted By: >>47670069 >>47671563 >>47711810

>>47669670
1k ccv is high for vtubers, but people who only watch holo or niji don't know any better.

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Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 14:55:30 No.47669926 Report

Quoted By: >>47671866

>>47669670
Unbased numberfaggot. The bigger the better

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 14:58:59 No.47670069 Report

Quoted By: >>47699721

>>47669871
>but people who only watch holo or niji don't know any better
this
if Sora's Christmas Miracle was about to happen in 2023, anons would not watch her because >hurr durr 2view

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Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 15:00:57 No.47670148 Report

Quoted By: >>47670541 >>47670654 >>47672131 >>47698017 >>47699991 >>47707775

Numberfriends have turned vtubing into a math-based horse race for themselves because they don't have the money or social skills to attend actual sports events.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 15:10:20 No.47670541 Report

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>>47670148
Me on the right

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 15:13:19 No.47670654 Report

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>>47670148
>they don't have the money or social skills to attend actual sports events.
the same applies to /sp/. well, /vt/ and /sp/ are the same after all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 15:16:31 No.47670816 Report

Quoted By: >>47674554 >>47675040

>>47669670
1000 people is a decent crowd, 10,000 is a small festival's worth of people, 100,000 is a major event
numberfags who think anything over 100 is bad are people who never touch grass
100 people at an event that happens 3-4x a week? that's a popular event.
IMO 100 fans who buy all your merch and come to every show would be enough to keep most musicians going for a life time (austerely) and many artists have made entire careers inside smaller circles

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 15:24:19 No.47671164 Report

Quoted By: >>47671320

>>47669670
woman is peak comfy - wish she gave less attention to $2 shitters tho , fkn attentionwhores

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 15:28:08 No.47671320 Report

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>>47671164
i think it's nice that she interacts with her chat that much

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 15:33:14 No.47671563 Report

Quoted By: >>47671608 >>47674980

>>47669871
1k CCV is high, period. Streamers often go full time before that viewer threshold is met. You're still very popular if you can reach 100 viewers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 15:34:13 No.47671608 Report

Quoted By: >>47672416

>>47671563
During my streams, I'm lucky if I can get above one viewer or have a single message in my chat. This is on Twitch, btw.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 15:37:35 No.47671764 Report

Quoted By: >>47672753 >>47701930

>>47669670
all numberfags should try to be a 0view for a month

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 15:39:56 No.47671866 Report

Quoted By: >>47672248

>>47669926
Then go wank to Baby Shark and T-series

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 15:45:47 No.47672131 Report

Quoted By: >>47672688 >>47679450 >>47697172 >>47700111

>>47670148
It's more of an EOP thing, they want to participate in the community but they can't actually talk about streams they don't understand so they talk about how many japanese people are watching them instead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 15:48:19 No.47672248 Report

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>>47671866
Who? I only watch anime girls.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 15:49:02 No.47672279 Report

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Pity the numberfag, for he will never have oshi glance at his way in a sea of thousands. Chat will always be fast and some other guy funnier than him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 15:51:36 No.47672416 Report

Quoted By: >>47674756

>>47671608
Nigga how? I streamed for 3 month on twitch a year ago and it was a rare stream when I wouldn't get at least 1 guy in my chat. Happened once every 6 streams maybe.
You must be either boring as fuck or just insufferable. Or streaming pure garbage I guess.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 15:57:08 No.47672688 Report

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>>47672131
Ooooh that actually makes a lot of sense

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 15:58:40 No.47672753 Report

Quoted By: >>47674983 >>47675501

>>47671764
numbernogs should spend some time outside of the vtubing sphere and realize just how small it is in the grand scheme of things. This one video alone has more views than Pekora's entire channel, for example.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAgnJDJN4VA

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 16:38:53 No.47674554 Report

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>>47670816
God you people are stupid 100 people on average is not enough to live off of unless you get whales consistently donating. I don’t think anything’s changed so ccv doesn’t give ad rev on youtube it’s only vods making it even worse. Twitch is better at small ccv but unless you’re doing 5-7ads a stream you’ll still be making less than a regular job. 100+ccv on youtube may average out between 1k-10k views. If you’re not streaming 3 times a day 6 days a week this again wouldn’t be sustainable. That’s where Followers/Subscribers play a role because you start to get sponsors paying couple hundred for an ad read or thousands to actually play the game. So no couple hundred ccv is not good unless you have whales or a disproportionate amount of subs. There’s also where the majority of your viewers live. If you have 2000 indonesians similar worth to 750 westerners or 1250 indians. The split is $4.55 in most western countries, $3ish in India and $1.36 in Indonesia. Also to the bot that tried to compare 100 paying customers in real life to a chance at 0 paying customers on youtube no it’s not the same. It’s why people don’t start selling merch till they reach a certain size.

Numberfags are just as bad with the obsession on ccv because they mainly focus on youtube and it’s a worthless metric except with companies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 16:43:23 No.47674756 Report

Quoted By: >>47674840

>>47672416
Whenever I have someone in chat I'll interact with them, I read out the stuff that's ingame, I talk about some stuff that's gone on in my life, but I am currently replaying through the Yakuza games and am currently stuck grinding the Hostess Maker "minigame" (quotation marks because it's a fucking drag).
Maybe I should actually get a VTuber model or change my stream layout a bit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 16:44:59 No.47674840 Report

Quoted By: >>47675483

>>47674756
I was streaming mostly old shooters without any kind of model or stream layout. Maybe try mixing it up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 16:47:40 No.47674980 Report

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>>47671563
High doesn’t mean it’s making much money. Iofi getting 1000 ccv is worth the same as a small western corpo getting couple hundred ccv. So no not period. 70 ccv but averaging hundreds of sc a stream is better than 700 with limited sc. But once you pass 5k you’re golden even if it’s 5000indos and you live in a first world country it’s livable and sustainable with near 0 sc. 2500 is probably sustainable in any country but even with the worst scenario 5k wouldn’t fail. This is for your average streamer none of this applies to vtuber corpos because they are either making above average money or still working a real job.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 16:47:48 No.47674983 Report

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>>47672753
holy shit pegora absolutely btfo by crusty boomers rocking out on stage singing about tits, beer and beating people up

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 16:49:14 No.47675040 Report

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>>47670816
All Hail Pekora!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 16:58:39 No.47675483 Report

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>>47674840
I was also streaming Hogwarts Legacy for a while after I got pissed at people harassing Pikamee over it, and until a year ago I was streaming a lot of Super Mario World Kaizo (I decided it was best for me to mostly move on from it due to how toxic the community is, what with them slandering me and all).
Even then I was lucky to get message in chat that wasn't a "wanna become famous?" faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 16:58:41 No.47675485 Report

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You are completely ignoring the context, if it was an avenue or a recital in a physical space it would be different and yeah, 500, 1k or 10k would be absolutely fantastic then, but online you have access to millions upon millions of people not being restricted by physical space AND usually they don't even need to pay for the content itself, this is not even considering that you can just watch the VOD later too, and there's many other factors like superchats or merchandising on top of that.

Anyways, this is not to say that some people do care WAY too much about numbers, but trying to complete negate their importance and usefulness as data is also silly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 16:59:06 No.47675501 Report

Quoted By: >>47675719

>>47672753
That’s the equivalent of saying nobody should play high school sports because it doesn’t compare to the pro leagues. All convenience stores should close because they don’t compare to supermarkets. Should we cancel nascar because it doesn’t compare to baseball in salary?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 17:03:59 No.47675719 Report

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>>47675501
Didn't you know that supporting local businesses is literally fascism?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 17:19:58 No.47676557 Report

Quoted By: >>47676832

>>47669670
If you're an indie, 1k is totally acceptable. If you have corporate backing though there's literally no excuse to have that much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 17:25:15 No.47676832 Report

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>>47676557
>If you're an indie, 1k is totally acceptable.
rumao, most indies would kill for 1k, you delusional numbertard

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 17:27:04 No.47676937 Report

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>>47669670
she is the only Indonesian holo worth any ones time

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 18:03:21 No.47678773 Report

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>>47669670
Kaela was the one that made me realize just how stupid numberfagging is. Seeing her be so completely engrossed in streaming and always trying to give back to her fans made me realize just how retarded I was being.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 18:12:54 No.47679262 Report

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The only number I’m concerned about is the number of children Kaela and I have together, which should be as high as possible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 18:16:38 No.47679450 Report

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>>47672131
No jp fans have many numberschizos too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 18:16:47 No.47679459 Report

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>>47669670
The problem comes from not gaining new viewers because viewers will drop out sooner or later. Lamy talked about this a long time ago. For the viewer, watching is just a hobby and it's to expected that they change their hobby over time or at least try something else in the same genre. A steady increase in numbers shows that there is something entertaining for new viewers and not just the old gard watching

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 19:28:50 No.47683372 Report

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>>47669670
>i will never understand numberfags
Likely those fucks have never streamed themselves

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 19:38:11 No.47683911 Report

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CCV is a just meme metric for shitposting. There's a reason why numberfags are miserable when their oshi doesn't win the tally.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 21:09:17 No.47688755 Report

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>>47669670
>"""""""""""""""""""""""people"""""""""""""""""""""""

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 21:17:31 No.47689236 Report

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>>47669670
it depends on two factors i'd say, A. is it higher or lower then their genmates/colleagues/friend group, and B. are they at 1k because they were small and are inclining, or because they were big and are declining.

If 1k is higher then their colleagues and/or they are still inclining then it is very impressive, however if their colleagues regularly outperform them and/or they used to get more viewers then that and have begun to decline, then it's more on the pathetic side

Does this explain it? it's all about relativity, 1k can be good or bad depending on the context, for most holos i'd say it's pretty bad, but for an unknown indie or someone from a 2view corpo, it's fucking incredible

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 21:49:25 No.47691009 Report

Quoted By: >>47697567

>>47669670
If you can make enough for it to be your full time job, it's respectable. I assume someone averaging half of these views is making enough.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 22:30:29 No.47693345 Report

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>>47669670
correct

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 23:34:51 No.47696805 Report

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>>47669670
agreed

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Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 23:41:29 No.47697172 Report

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>>47672131
>"It's more of an EOP thing"
>5ch and 2ch are literally littered with numberfags paying more attention to the CCV rather than the actual content of the stream (The "[Number]K DOOORYA!" meme literally comes from them)
>The vast majority of numberfag websites >>47673630 are made by japanese people with japanese UIs
What did Ken-sama mean by this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 23:49:33 No.47697567 Report

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>>47691009
On twitch yes on youtube maybe. You don’t make money off ccv on youtube it’s off the vods. 1k can be anywhere between 10-30k on a vod and that’s livable if you stream super often and super consistently. Next is do you have 50k or 100k subs that would determine sponsors. Finally is it 100-200 minimum a stream. Livable but an overnight security job would pay better and be less effort. On the flipside you could be squeezing people dry and bringing in a couple hundred off 100-200 viewers like Nene from kawaii. Depends on expenses and all the numbers. Nene is bringing more in then Rin at a fifth of the ccv but definitely isn’t bringing in more than iofi/risu who has the same ccv as Rin

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 23:54:29 No.47697820 Report

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I will never understand the hatred. It's just another aspect of vtubing that some people enjoy, why it triggers people so much?
>inb4 they shit everywhere
That isn't true, those are the same schizos every chuuba has using numbers and graphs to shitpost.

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Anonymous Wed 19 Apr 2023 23:57:45 No.47698017 Report

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>>47670148
Poor Bae always looks so uncomfortable in this picture…

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Anonymous Thu 20 Apr 2023 00:29:39 No.47699721 Report

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>>47669670
Because you are streaming in an online platform which has global reach. This isn't just your local news channel or city stadium, you have the reach of your entire country and potentially foreigners willing to check you out.
>>47670069
Well no shit retard, that was in the early stages of vtubing which was still a niche and could have just been a fling. Do you know youtube when it started only got like maybe 20 people checking their site?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Apr 2023 00:34:40 No.47699991 Report

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>>47670148
Or an uni degree in statistics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Apr 2023 00:36:30 No.47700111 Report

Quoted By:

>>47672131
numberfagging is the norm on jop sites

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Apr 2023 01:07:22 No.47701930 Report

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>>47671764
most of them would be if they were suddenly put on a task of becoming a vtuber kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Apr 2023 02:31:36 No.47707207 Report

Quoted By:

>>47669726
>by EN standards
cheeky

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Apr 2023 02:39:32 No.47707775 Report

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>>47670148
>bae
>mouse left hand
???

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Apr 2023 03:32:56 No.47711810 Report

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>>47669871
Will they return?

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