>>48029866I would much rather live in a free society - even if those freedoms led to society being chaotic and flawed with 'degenerate' behavior - than an unfree society like an islamic one. Despite all the problems liberal western societies have, they are still less miserable than extreme theocratic societies. If you allow the government to suppress and control the population in one aspect this immediately opens the door for the government to absolutely control the population in any or all other aspects on a whim; every authoritarian society in history has proved this to be the case and it always ends in misery.
Do you think just because you yourself are not a fag that living in such a society that bans faggotry would mean you wouldn't also be suppressd by such a society? You're naive if you think the control would just end there. If the state can decide they can control and oppress one group of people for one reason, what's stopping them there?
>>48031063>>48031575Homosexuality is an accepted social norm in the western world in the sense that homosexual people are accepted - this is not the same as a social norm like in islam that actively bans certain behaviors and demands that people live a certain way. This is only comparable if you believe that there are actually straight being indoctrinated/forced into becoming gay somehow by progressives/woke corporations and this is simply not the case. Sexuality is hard-wired into people's natures and can't really be changed and calling 'acceptance' or 'promoting gay people' the same as 'indoctrination' is a deliberate false equivalence/obfuscation of the meaning of the words.
And before you say 'oh yeah? but what about the troons...' that's a whole different can of worms to simple gay acceptance.
In any case, the dykes in Hololive like Marine, Kiara etc. are more based than Kobo because they are clearly older than her so they didn't grow up in current year where gayness is 100% accepted in their countries (in the case of JPs like Marine it still isn't 100%) and obviously they have thought about it more. Kobo on the other hand is literally a kid just repeating what her parents/culture has told her.
A good counter example to Kobo is Reine; she is also indonesian, grew up there in the exact same culture and yet she is one of the dyke holos, perhaps the most obviously so. Reine is more based than Kobo.
