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Hey, I'm fairly new to this board, and while I do understand people may not like VShojo (I don't watch all of them or even watch them that often, I'm usually watching HoloEN/ID and sometimes JP branch from highlights), the hate seems so full of vitriol to the point any critique comes off as redundant and borderline, as many of you may say on this board, "schizo-like".
What I'm mostly referring to here is stuff like the Nyanners situation back in 2015 where she addressed her Pomf Pomf video back in 2012. People seem to be stuck on the fact that she's a "hypocrite" for, mainly, 3 reasons:
1.) Despite her denouncing her creation of the video, she still associates with people who like Lolis.
2.) Her model is a "Loli".
3.) She references or even talks about topics that may be referring to sexualizing Lolis.
I'd like to clarify firstly that I'm sure there are many other reasons she may be considered a hypocrite, but these are the main points being brought up. And while these points are being brought up the most (#2 and #3 being a pretty big stretch in their accuracy), I'd like to know: why is this a bad thing? Everyone has terrible opinions (even I consider it a terrible opinion as someone who watches her casually). No one is being hurt by these opinions. Yes, they're shit, but at the end of the day they are just that: shitty opinions that do no more than getting someone a bit salty; like hearing someone say that pineapple on pizza is bad (lol). I'd also say this whole thing even stretches as far as the rest of VShojo and some people outside of Vtubing who have chose to collab so far. It's a huge mess being fueled by blind hate and, ultimately, ruins the whole Hololive/Vtuber community in general (as much of most of you probably don't want to hear that). I don't know, I'm just hoping for a decent discussion here and not one based on heavy bias with some nuance. Thanks.
What I'm mostly referring to here is stuff like the Nyanners situation back in 2015 where she addressed her Pomf Pomf video back in 2012. People seem to be stuck on the fact that she's a "hypocrite" for, mainly, 3 reasons:
1.) Despite her denouncing her creation of the video, she still associates with people who like Lolis.
2.) Her model is a "Loli".
3.) She references or even talks about topics that may be referring to sexualizing Lolis.
I'd like to clarify firstly that I'm sure there are many other reasons she may be considered a hypocrite, but these are the main points being brought up. And while these points are being brought up the most (#2 and #3 being a pretty big stretch in their accuracy), I'd like to know: why is this a bad thing? Everyone has terrible opinions (even I consider it a terrible opinion as someone who watches her casually). No one is being hurt by these opinions. Yes, they're shit, but at the end of the day they are just that: shitty opinions that do no more than getting someone a bit salty; like hearing someone say that pineapple on pizza is bad (lol). I'd also say this whole thing even stretches as far as the rest of VShojo and some people outside of Vtubing who have chose to collab so far. It's a huge mess being fueled by blind hate and, ultimately, ruins the whole Hololive/Vtuber community in general (as much of most of you probably don't want to hear that). I don't know, I'm just hoping for a decent discussion here and not one based on heavy bias with some nuance. Thanks.
