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Anonymous Tue 27 Jun 2023 21:55:00 No.52267926 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>52268107 >>52269500 >>52271297 >>52271421 >>52272337 >>52277337

why is there such a high turnover rate for vtubing? is it not fun being a chuuba? theres always someone graduating every other month.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jun 2023 21:55:34 No.52267952 Report

Quoted By: >>52284285 >>52285770

except in hololive

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jun 2023 21:56:57 No.52268026 Report

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sub minimum wage job relying on donations not worth putting up with management and bosses that don't give a fuck

getting some shitty waitress job while you grind it indie to hopefully receive some success is significantly more dignified. people realize very quickly

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Anonymous Tue 27 Jun 2023 21:58:53 No.52268107 Report

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>>52267926
COVID is over and the fad is dying in the west

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Anonymous Tue 27 Jun 2023 22:06:50 No.52268484 Report

Quoted By: >>52273147 >>52273219 >>52274761 >>52277184

The great majority of vtubers since 2020 are trend-chasing normies who think it's an easy way to make money and don't realize that to be successful you need to actually be passionate about not only fostering a tight relationship with your viewers but otaku interests and culture as well in order to maintain a dedicated audience, which is composed primarily of parasocial otaku. Vtubing is a hobby/industry that requires just as much, if not far more sacrifice from the streamer than what you get out of it, so only those who really love it will persist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jun 2023 22:28:54 No.52269500 Report

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>>52267926
>theres always someone graduating
ok, and how many of them stop being a chuuba?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jun 2023 23:06:21 No.52271297 Report

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>>52267926
Don't know that you should use a picture of a Holomember while asking this. Of the 51 Holomembers who lasted at least a year, there's been 1 who subsequently quit, and one who was fired. That's remarkable stability and points to pretty good job satisfaction there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jun 2023 23:08:27 No.52271421 Report

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>>52267926
Being a streamer fucking sucks unless you're making ez money
Otherwise it just feels like grinding in a game except you're not getting any XP or items

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jun 2023 23:24:58 No.52272337 Report

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>>52267926
Hololive doesn't seem to have this issue. Curious.
Holochads can't stop winning!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Jun 2023 23:40:00 No.52273147 Report

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>>52268484
This

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Anonymous Tue 27 Jun 2023 23:41:27 No.52273219 Report

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>>52268484
An actual logical reply on my /vt/? Get out of here with this l-logic. We don't do that here.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Jun 2023 23:42:13 No.52273253 Report

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>>52271421
I talked to someone who'd been streaming for months and months and told me about how he literally has zero viewers. It never occured to me, but yeah, the vast majority of streamers aren't even 1 views, they're 0 views. Unless you're either insanely motivated to improve, or insanely naturally talented, you're going to be lucky to have literally 1 person watching you.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2023 00:06:57 No.52274604 Report

Quoted By: >>52276180 >>52276329

Streaming is a shit method to grow
Unironically pre recorded video woth some work behind it like Wendigoon (fleshtuber) https://m.youtube.com/@Wendigoon/videos,Thatfnine (vtuber [ex png tube]) https://m.youtube.com/@Thafnine/videos or Lindsay nicole (Animal video) https://m.youtube.com/@LindsayNikole/videos can make you grow way way more than just fucking Streaming the trending news games
They all gather way more viewer and reach than any Vtuber despite having a low video count ,especially T9 with around 400k and still mangaging to have 3/4 of his videogoing well above the 1M mark , simply because they are more Quality over quantity
And they have one thing in common that vtuber (especially in corpo) doesn't have is that they can talk about everything they want without management or twitter trannies breathing down their neck

Sadly vtuber and corpo are retarded and doesn’t understand that Stream are overdone and people watch less and less stream in the west + thr fad is over
I'm fucking sure with the budget they have they can also even translate JP chuuba pre recorded video quickly. Thus absolutely killing the clip channels and bringing more view outside of JP
And most stream are way too boring for me to care watching them , i unironically prefer react content like Lilaofthewind with internet historian while i'm drawing

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2023 00:10:09 No.52274761 Report

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>>52268484
This. To be a male streamer, you need to be funny, have skills, or have a very strong gimmick or niche.
To be a female streamer, you just need to have a good body.

But a 2D Vtuber trades anonymity for actually having to be sweet, friendly, entertaining, and sympathetic to their otakus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2023 00:14:46 No.52274987 Report

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>>52273253
It gets even worse when you can get some views on VODs but then the algorithm nerfs you for whatever reason. Then you're back to square one, or worse depending on how you started.
Being a 0view streamer is like being repeatedly kicked in the balls with no relief in sight. There are a lot of people who try to tough it out to no avail, not me man I knew when to call it quits. But there's so many fleshtubers and vtubers who are going through it.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2023 00:38:24 No.52276180 Report

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>>52274604
I wonder if making prerecorded videos while streaming on the side could see success?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2023 00:41:13 No.52276329 Report

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>>52274604
>Streaming is a shit method to grow
>Unironically pre recorded video woth some work behind it like- ASH FTARGNH NAZGUL KHE KU SULJ MIR VE JEG CARE RO UL SHARA, UL SHARA LIWO BE FOLLOWED AFAR UL SHARA, KA KIGIJI EKKO KHE LIWO MAT KIGIJA ATIGAT KU IJ LOT RO WORK AGH ZUTAG. TOR VE DEZ VE UL
This is how you sound when you don't use line breaks.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2023 00:47:22 No.52276685 Report

Quoted By: >>52276969 >>52277097 >>52277404

>>52269500
Nina's gonna continue, Zaion, Pikamee, Coco and Aloe continued.
Afaik, Sana, Yugo and Monoe didn't continue VTubing. I think that's the biggest ones.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2023 00:52:38 No.52276964 Report

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>>52276180
the problem is that their growth is disconnected if they diverge too much
you can look at T9 for an example, that's an entire channel of 1m+ view video essays but looking at his stream of 10-15 hours a week with 100-150 average viewers, you'd never know how big his main youtube channel is
if you want to grow a stream via branching out, standalone content is not only probably not going to work that well, but is also massively inefficient since each video like that takes hundreds of hours to make
edited stream highlights work better and also can be repurposed for tiktok/yt shorts

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Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2023 00:52:43 No.52276969 Report

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>>52276685
Yugo did continue with her new model.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2023 00:54:30 No.52277081 Report

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Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2023 00:54:44 No.52277097 Report

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>>52276685
Nah, Yugo continued. More popular than in Niji as well. Though that's not really an achievement when she was always more popular even before Niji and had to be scouted by them.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2023 00:56:07 No.52277184 Report

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>>52268484
It's really hard to be a vtuber and a normalfag, since they want cuckbux but hate anime. So hard!

In all seriousness I've NEVER understood how people shell out for thousands of dollars of equipment and shit and didn't actually know the first thing about vtubing. Do people REALLY spend a bunch of money only to realize they don't like the thing they're doing?

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Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2023 00:58:32 No.52277323 Report

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Retarded trendchasers saw EN numbers and thought all it took was a model in the low thousands and streaming equipment. A majority of the well known Vtubing indies were known before they got a model. Imagine paying thousands of dollars to have maybe 1 person watch you.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2023 00:58:46 No.52277337 Report

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>>52267926
even the money's not worth dealing with incels for them
so either they find chad to support them and leave, or they just go back to the normie life so they can at least deal with mostly normies

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2023 00:59:36 No.52277404 Report

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>>52276685
yugo is actually doing better as an indie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2023 01:02:53 No.52277623 Report

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>>52276329
Stfu no one cares
Talk only if you ass as something meaningful to say you Seanigger

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Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2023 01:57:42 No.52280963 Report

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>>52276964
I had the idea to use edited stream/vod highlights, but also edit in some little bits or skits to go with them, with both the videos and streams themselves relying heavily on little bits and improv roleplay to be more like a "show" than a traditional livestream.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2023 02:46:28 No.52283875 Report

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>>52280963
could work, as long as the product comes out compelling enough for people to watch, not that there's anyway of knowing if that's the case, though
it definitely is a good idea to stream with the intent of creating fodder for youtube/tiktok content to save time reaching new audiences, but that has implications on what/how you stream

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2023 02:54:02 No.52284285 Report

Quoted By: >>52285207

>>52267952
if you count cn and stars, the percentage is not that different from niji
prove me wrong

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2023 03:10:28 No.52285207 Report

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>>52284285
depends on what you determine as not too different, I suppose.
If you include all affiliated branches, Hololive has had about a 21% turnover while Nijisanji has had about 27%.
But the total number of gradutes from Nijisanji is more than the entire total number of talents in Hololive's history.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2023 03:20:26 No.52285770 Report

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>>52267952
Doesn’t count. Cover is unique in the business in that it has an absurdly well-oiled merch machine and extremely lax standards for streaming, so chuubas that would quit or be fired anywhere else due to lack of output get to remain because their presence allows Cover to keep cashing in on merch. It’s actually crazy how well they’ve mastered the method since we’re well into 5+ members pulling an Ayame without any real hit to their income or reputation.

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