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Paid Dancers

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 06:41:32 No.56662658 View View Reply Original Report

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I saw many anons said before than Hololive are using paid dancers for they concert dance, but what the fuck is this? Why are they doing dance rep if they can just hire paid dancers?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgSvLudAUFM

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 06:43:41 No.56662740 Report

Quoted By: >>56662965 >>56663325 >>56663586 >>56665138 >>56668773 >>56669489

'hololive is hiring paid dancers' comes from the same place as 'koshien is botting', jealousy

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 06:44:43 No.56662770 Report

Quoted By: >>56668150

>>56662658
>paid dancers
https://youtu.be/vzodvcvUxbQ

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 06:50:38 No.56662965 Report

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>>56662740
But Niji Koshien is boting since the "Belo Jogo" incident.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 07:02:28 No.56663325 Report

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>>56662740
weird because no one in /nijien/ thinks koshien is botting but they sure think holo hires paid dancers

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 07:07:03 No.56663459 Report

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The most cunning part of the deception is how they don't hire *good* dancers, except to do Bae's and Marine's stuff (and Moona's butt).

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 07:08:41 No.56663502 Report

Quoted By: >>56671500

>>56662965
Konami is botting, not necessarily Niji.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 07:10:00 No.56663542 Report

Quoted By: >>56664307

Sex with birds

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 07:11:34 No.56663586 Report

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>>56662740
Which person did you get oneguy'd by Mysta? Nobody thinks that because baseball is popular in Japan you idiot. It doesn't negate the fact that Nijisanji has been caught botting multiple times, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 07:37:43 No.56664307 Report

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>>56663542
which one

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 07:42:06 No.56664430 Report

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If they were paid dancers, Ina sure got scammed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 07:44:50 No.56664505 Report

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>>56662658
>I saw many anons said before than Hololive are using paid dancers for they concert dance
Those weren't real anons. Just assmad nijisisters and seething 2views. The usual jealous faggots.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 07:46:16 No.56664547 Report

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>>56662658
>I saw many anons said before than Hololive are using paid dancers
Huh? who says this shit?
Literally all of their dances doesn't require much effort to do(aside for korone and kiara)
What's the point of paid dancers, wtf is this take?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 07:58:15 No.56664846 Report

Quoted By: >>56664897 >>56665011 >>56665250 >>56666864 >>56667082

I have always been curious if most concerts are paid dancers/actors. I wish there was more evidences to substantiate this claim. Any good rats would be appreciated

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 08:00:48 No.56664897 Report

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>>56664846
Isn't the OP proof enough? We all know Mumei is actually in a wheelchair.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 08:01:05 No.56664903 Report

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>>56662658
Stop listening to catalog threads like they aren't all posted by false flaggers, baiters, nijisisters and seething 2views.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 08:06:12 No.56665011 Report

Quoted By: >>56665160 >>56666864

>>56664846
Paid dancers is jealous 2view seethe rrats.
3D birthday "Live" is not actually Live has some truth though.
While the talking part is probably Live, the Dance is probably pre-recorded. Probably so that there is no "accident" like upskirt shots and malfunctioning 3D model like past Live.

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Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 08:08:26 No.56665059 Report

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They don't even pay the talents and you think they're gonna pay dancers?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 08:12:11 No.56665138 Report

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>>56662740
I mean Uiha objectively mogs every other chuuba in existence when it comes to dancing, so I don’t see where the jealousy there comes from.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciLv_6V2FFU

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 08:13:04 No.56665160 Report

Quoted By: >>56665540 >>56666994

>>56665011
"Live" means concert in Japan; it's a reverse case of how "hentai" means something different in English (and other languages) vs in Japanese. It doesn't mean the concert has to be performed right at the moment the audience sees it.
You can tell it's a loanword with a different meaning than in English because sentences like "She is performing at a live" would not make sense in English.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 08:16:01 No.56665250 Report

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>>56664846
Here’s the thing about paid dancer rrats, and this applies regardless of company, wouldn’t they be looking to hire the same quality of dancing across the board? We would be seeing any situations like Kiara mogging every other EN she was on stage with at HoloFes, or in the Niji camp the gap between Uiha and even the next best wouldn’t be so comically large.

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Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 08:27:30 No.56665540 Report

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>>56665160
My favourite is when they do shit like VWP ONE MAN LIVE when VWP is a group consisting of my five wives.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 08:42:37 No.56665914 Report

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>>56664307
all of them, brother.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 09:15:25 No.56666732 Report

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>Mumei will never tie you up with her hair and have her way with you
Feels bad man

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 09:18:18 No.56666801 Report

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>>56666732
>implying Mumei can tie anyone up
She'd accidentally tie herself up in the attempt

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 09:21:25 No.56666864 Report

Quoted By: >>56667127 >>56668423

>>56662658
>>56664846
>>56665011
The paid dancer thing is mostly for the EN girls showing up in JP 3D Lives. The most obvious is Ina showing up for anything outside of 3rd and 4th Fes. There's also the issue of Cover using MMD tier shit to fill in gaps to make it look more "professional", this is pretty obvious in most Birthday/Anniversary 3D Lives starting in 2022. The actual big events are of course actually done by the talents, though still mostly pre-recorded.
You can reply to me an argue that Hololive doesn't do shit like that, but just look at any 3D Live from the past year, tons of unrealistic movement you can only find in MMD animations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 09:27:16 No.56666994 Report

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>>56665160
Other similar cases are how 'rucksack' actually means backpack, 'mansion' actually refers to a type of apartment, 'revenge' refers to a second try at something, and 'vinyl' actually refers to plastic bags

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 09:31:17 No.56667082 Report

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>>56664846
Paid dancers and pre recordings are like lip syncing. It's gonna be used sometimes but not always. For the really big concerts they are gonna get all the girls to perform or record, but if there are limitations they will get a replacement.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 09:32:17 No.56667102 Report

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>>56662658
>he thinks mumei can walk let alone dance

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 09:33:09 No.56667127 Report

Quoted By: >>56667206 >>56667245

>>56666864
You're retarded. Ina always dances like shit in every 3d live, why would you possibly pay a dancer to barely move when you can just have the talent record some motion capture data and send it over?
Also please point to me these unrealistic movements.

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Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 09:36:20 No.56667206 Report

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>>56667127
Like who in their right fucking mind would pay someone to dance like THIS?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 09:38:02 No.56667245 Report

Quoted By: >>56667295 >>56667339

>>56667127
I bet you think Gura and Shion performed together in the same room for 4th Fes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 09:39:17 No.56667282 Report

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>>56667206
jesus christ look at her go!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 09:39:18 No.56667284 Report

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Only in vtuber world ppl are questioning these kind of things FFS. . even in idolmaster or any idol 2D franchise with 3D ingame features (like uma musume, etc) are done by skin walkers a.k.a paid dancers.
>but live stage
i know some of them are doing real life seiyuu performance with dance and etc but it's because they are living in the same continent. this is why u should stop watching holo EN and go for HoloJp u retarted white burger fuckers

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 09:39:47 No.56667295 Report

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>>56667245
That's not what was said, and we know that the pairs probably didn't perform together because Haachama was dying and yet was still there (as a pre-recording).

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 09:40:24 No.56667306 Report

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>>56667206
LMAO WTF

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 09:40:29 No.56667311 Report

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>>56667206
Surprised nobody has made a basketball edit of this.
2 perfect poses both for dribbling and scoring.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 09:42:13 No.56667336 Report

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They're the same people who still think that every vtuber is a 50 years old guy with a voice changer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 09:42:26 No.56667339 Report

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>>56667245
Of course, it's pre-recorded, retard.
Did you think gura went to japan for vacation.
It's to records bunch of shit that cover can use later.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 09:42:49 No.56667352 Report

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>>56667206
Soul

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 09:44:52 No.56667400 Report

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>>56667206
Why did ina looks like being tortured here?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 09:48:33 No.56667494 Report

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>>56667206
Anon that is a Kanauru video for Kiara's live that was entirely recorded with scuffed 3D motion capture. I am talking about shit like this.
https://youtu.be/zQuFRSi5ebc?t=2553
In fact you even prove my point with that webm. Imagine thinking Ina is the one dancing here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 09:49:34 No.56667512 Report

Quoted By: >>56669221

Post kronii dancing

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 09:53:16 No.56667581 Report

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>>56664897
NANOMACHINES SON

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 09:54:10 No.56667598 Report

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>>56667494
You think that looks professional? It looks like a dope doing a rehearsed, simple routine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 09:54:42 No.56667610 Report

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>>56662658
why is holotori the only subgroup to catch wind? kiara is forcing them to participate most likely.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 09:55:05 No.56667618 Report

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>>56667494
>Imagine thinking Ina is the one dancing here.
That's 100% Ina dancing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 09:56:07 No.56667649 Report

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>>56667206
Good point anon KEK

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 10:01:06 No.56667759 Report

Quoted By: >>56667841 >>56667867 >>56668954

>>56667494
Ina's movements in this are still genuinely very basic and she fucks up at points too.
Also I was pretty sure that since, you know, Kiara recorded that at Ame's studio, she would've had Ame and Ina who were literally there at the time also do it. Did she say otherwise? She's usually pretty blunt about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 10:02:07 No.56667776 Report

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>>56667206
Alright. I believe now. They are actually dping their dances.

That Ina dance is so cringe and yet so cute, wholesome and SOUL, that Im a takodachi now

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 10:04:55 No.56667841 Report

Quoted By: >>56667999

>>56667759
Yes everything in Kiara's live was recorded with Ame's studio. But it's also something Kanauru pieced together with data Cover refused to use.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 10:05:47 No.56667867 Report

Quoted By: >>56667887

>>56667759
Kiara talked at length about this whole thing, in fact. She told them to ad lib this part which is why Ina's moves come off as someone who only has a vague idea of what dancing looks like choreographing a dance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 10:06:53 No.56667887 Report

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>>56667867
>She told them to ad lib this part
Actually she tried to get them to do actual choreo but Ina snapped at her.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 10:06:53 No.56667888 Report

Quoted By: >>56668036

>>56662658
Was this Kiara's idea? I know real life idol groups make a lot of these kinds of videos.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 10:08:00 No.56667910 Report

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>>56667206
Go Ina, fill up that shopping cart!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 10:11:38 No.56667999 Report

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>>56667841
I'm not understanding the issue. Kanarau worked with the motion data so actually he didn't and none of it was real? What kind of logic is that?

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Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 10:13:12 No.56668036 Report

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>>56667888

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Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 10:18:31 No.56668139 Report

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>>56667598
Thats his point, anon. If the dances are that simple, there is no way its paid

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 10:19:08 No.56668150 Report

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>>56662770
No it isn't. Kayfabe can be dropped for such a big event, I don't think her fans mind.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 10:29:08 No.56668357 Report

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>>56667206
I love her so fucking much bros, look at her go...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 10:31:46 No.56668423 Report

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>>56666864
It doesn't look exactly like MMD, but sometimes their performances are so in sync that it looks like there's just one person dancing and they're controlling multiple models. When a performance is actually live you can usually see more of their character in the dance. Mistakes in the dance routine, constant glancing around, poor dancers not moving as elegantly as the better ones, etc.
Some Hololive performances are so void of character that they look like puppets.
>>56667206
That's an animation and you can't convince me otherwise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 10:40:12 No.56668597 Report

Quoted By: >>56668629

I'm gonna make myself look like a woman but several seasons of Dancing with the Stars, and I've seen atrocious dancers get decent pretty quickly. Yes they're dancing with professional dancers, but Hololive members aren't doing anything as complicated as stuff on that show, and they have more time to get better. I really, really don't think it's weird that they can coordinate a rehearsed idol dance acceptably.

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Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 10:41:14 No.56668629 Report

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>>56668597
I've watched, I forgot a couple words.

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Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 10:44:59 No.56668711 Report

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>>56667206
GO INA GO

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Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 10:47:59 No.56668773 Report

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>>56662740
OH NO NO NO

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Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 10:52:39 No.56668877 Report

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>>56667494
Even in the very umisea performance you link they're constantly out of sync to a level that is frankly only bronze-medal level in even college-level marching band competitions, let alone 'professional' JP idol performances (and that's not even getting into kpop autism)

The difference is pretty insane when you actually have parts of the same choreo to compare to, in fact
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJ6arLzswDM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDaKPPmDSIE

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 10:56:53 No.56668954 Report

Quoted By: >>56681966

>>56667759
Kiara straight up admitted (with barely disguised seethe, she hates that) the one instance where paid dancers were for sure used in Hololive, which was Moris UMG live, where Myth MMD puppets appeared as backup dancers
it was very obvious tho, and i don't think anyone pretended otherwise

basically, it's very VERY easy to differentiate paid dancers from Holos and the very few instances of paid dancers are not advetised as genuine Holo appearances

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 11:01:44 No.56669056 Report

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Kiara is a retired idol that before joining Hololive had stopped dancing for years, and the difference between her and 90% of the other girls is staggering even if you have no idea what good dancing looks like
the paid dancers rrat is so fucking stupid, when we can easily keep track of where and when Holos record their performances

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 11:07:17 No.56669168 Report

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>Hololive hires professional dancers
>Tells them to dance like absolute beginners
Incredible big brain conspiracies here today

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Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 11:09:03 No.56669221 Report

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>>56667512
>kroni

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 11:09:23 No.56669231 Report

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>>56662658
Every time you see Korone do a flip you know that is a paid dancer because she is fat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 11:10:01 No.56669255 Report

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>>56662658
>dance

thats not even a dance retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 11:11:02 No.56669278 Report

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>>56669221
now we talkin

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 11:11:44 No.56669296 Report

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>>56669221
grim

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Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 11:14:18 No.56669362 Report

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>>56669221
KEK WTF IS THIS

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Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 11:16:11 No.56669415 Report

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>>56662658
off-topic, but why are mumei's hips so fuckin slutty

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 11:18:55 No.56669489 Report

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>>56662740
But niji literally is botting, this has been proven before, plus anyone with half a brain can look at their viewership and realize that it’s sporadic and suspicious as fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 11:54:12 No.56670420 Report

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>>56662658
they're optional.
also, kanauru is sexxxxo

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 11:55:10 No.56670451 Report

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>>56669415
I quote Kiara, they're child birthing hips tier

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 11:59:47 No.56670591 Report

Quoted By: >>56670987 >>56671760 >>56674219

>>56662658
They should use paid dancers for everything. Why spend a fuck ton of cash and thousands of hours trying to teach female neckbeards how to do the most BASIC dance moves? None of them have any rhythm, stamina, flexibility or skill of any kind. Save everyone the time, money and stress. Hire pro dancers to skinwalk so the concerts can have actual dances be displayed and not this shitty "I take one step to the left (not in time) then take one step to the right (tripped, rolled my ankle. 3 week stream hiatus).

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 12:12:19 No.56670987 Report

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>>56670591
making those girls show up and exercise is a good thing.

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Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 12:17:10 No.56671164 Report

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>>56669221
>feminization
>mindbreak
>blackmail

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 12:24:20 No.56671401 Report

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>>56662658
So when there were multiple Guras dancing for her 3d bday celebration you think she somehow used Atlantean shadow clone technique?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 12:26:39 No.56671500 Report

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>>56663502
Have you seen any other livestream events other than specifically Niji's Koushien that they have botted?
If none, then shut the fuck up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 12:33:57 No.56671760 Report

Quoted By: >>56675633

>>56670591
The idol journey anon seeing unathletic,worst singers growing up to being idols is good content.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 12:52:59 No.56672594 Report

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It's obvious they have to hire someone for moomei you insensible moron, can't dance in a wheelchair.

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Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 12:58:13 No.56672849 Report

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Anyone saying that the majority of their dancing is paid dancers is an absolute retard. I could see there being a few talents that just opt out of doing dancing live, but most of them are flying to Japan every couple months to go to the studio for this shit and stuff like their 3d 'live'.
On top of that, you can easily tell when it's live vs when it's not. I really wish they would let some talents do things actually live in the way that Kiara was allowed to do for Dokomi, with her back stage using her rigging and live reacting to the crowd.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 13:05:24 No.56673168 Report

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>>56670451
Did she really say that? Based chicken.

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Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 13:26:31 No.56674219 Report

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>>56670591
>None of them have any rhythm, stamina, flexibility or skill of any kind.
That's the point of doing reps anon, you gain those things. Look at Gen5, they've got two hags, an alcoholic, and a super pon, but they still managed to sing and do basic choreo live for 2 hours and 22 songs. Idol reps are good for the girls, and as a fan its great to see that level of progress from the girls you support.

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Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 13:46:39 No.56675201 Report

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>>56662658
Mam, I love Holotori even more now

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 13:55:28 No.56675633 Report

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>>56671760
Except you're not seeing shit, since u know, it's an anime girl avatar.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 14:10:34 No.56676680 Report

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>>56668773
who is this and what is happening?

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Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 14:36:07 No.56678611 Report

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>>56676680
nijiJP with viewbot ads in his google recommendations below

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Anonymous Tue 22 Aug 2023 15:22:16 No.56681966 Report

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>>56668954
>Moris UMG live, where Myth MMD puppets appeared as backup dancers
My guess is they didn't even ask Myth about their appearance in Mori's live. Cover has occasionally used paid dancers but that was different because management didn't even tell them it would happen.

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