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Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2024 17:08:42 No.66858754 View View Reply Original Report

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Do you think Mel will join Vshojo?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2024 17:14:06 No.66859078 Report

Quoted By: >>66859937 >>66891818

>>66858754
she will pilot the empty Nazuna body

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2024 17:15:36 No.66859165 Report

Quoted By: >>66859280 >>66859440 >>66864603 >>66881591 >>66891818

If she's as retarded as Nazuna, yes. If she's smart, no.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2024 17:16:57 No.66859236 Report

Quoted By: >>66862115

>>66858754
Nah, Mel's one of the few Hololive girls that legit never needed Hololive to make a living. She's going to be fine on her own.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2024 17:17:35 No.66859280 Report

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I hope not but there's no way to know. she was doing her own thing pre holo and on the side during.
>>66859165
I don't think there's any doubts about her intelligence. Complete and utter braind death.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2024 17:18:13 No.66859323 Report

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>>66858754
Surely she's not /that/ retarded....... (she is)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2024 17:18:15 No.66859325 Report

Quoted By: >>66859691 >>66860237 >>66862286

>>66858754
Aside from Kson and Nazuna there isn't going to be another Holo joining Vshojo. Nazuna only joined because she was desperate and easily groomable (and she still left in the end), while Kson joined because she has a massive savior complex. Vshojo is a massive upgrade to Nijis but to Holos it's nothing but a downgrade. There's no reason for any of them to join.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2024 17:20:42 No.66859440 Report

Quoted By: >>66859498 >>66888463

>>66859165
>If she's smart
kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2024 17:21:43 No.66859498 Report

Quoted By: >>66859545 >>66859853

>>66859440
how can she survive now ....we failed her she needs protection

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2024 17:22:32 No.66859545 Report

Quoted By: >>66875811

>>66859498
Mel legit has multiple times walked outside multiple blocks forgetting to put some clothes on

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2024 17:25:28 No.66859691 Report

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>>66859325
She got fired. It's a downgrade, but it's not like she has a choice to stick with Holo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2024 17:28:24 No.66859853 Report

Quoted By: >>66860014 >>66860387 >>66860798 >>66875811

>>66859498
She will be fine, her RM is making good money. But as she loves to sing with other people, she will be lonely and maybe join somewhere else. vshojo would definitely be the wrong place for her.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2024 17:29:54 No.66859937 Report

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>>66859078
nazuna's model is owned by gato miguel

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2024 17:31:27 No.66860014 Report

Quoted By: >>66860190 >>66860347 >>66860387 >>66860798

>>66859853
What realistic alternatives are there?
Nijisanji? With how much of a dumpster fire its become?
VSpo? Is she gamer enough to even fit in?
Anybody else would be a downgrade from just being an indie

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2024 17:34:31 No.66860175 Report

Quoted By: >>66860532

As a vshojo stan im honestly saying its not looking likely. Our jp branch is kinda weak atm and is just a glorfied henya reeses delivery service. Kson is super close to guutara but i dont think thats a factor with yozora mel. I dont vshojo can even save her she really dosent have issues with talent freedom or anything

Im praying for the yozora mel fans tho may your oshi find peace and success.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2024 17:34:47 No.66860190 Report

Quoted By: >>66860477 >>66892286 >>66898705

>>66860014
EOP here. Is Niji on the JP side as bad as NijiEN? I'm only aware of the garbage dump the EN side has become.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2024 17:35:38 No.66860237 Report

Quoted By: >>66860363

>>66859325
Well it's this, Niji or Indie really. At least with VShojo she already has Kson there who she knows, and also has Henya to collab with.
The question is more if VShojo has given up on the Japanese side or not with Nazuna splitting. Kson and Henya are at least fluent English speakers so can still have their Western audience. Mel doesn't have that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2024 17:37:23 No.66860347 Report

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>>66860014
774 could be an alternative but I mean… she probably would make the same amount being an indie anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2024 17:37:37 No.66860363 Report

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>>66860237
nazuna quitting has literally no impact on anything other than that they don't have to include her in group art or group merch anymore
why would kson and henya's japanese fans stop watching them because nazuna quit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2024 17:38:10 No.66860387 Report

Quoted By: >>66860606

>>66859853
>>66860014
Once you get your contract terminated like this there is no second chances. It's Vshojo or nothing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2024 17:39:59 No.66860477 Report

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>>66860190
No just no, she would get bullied to death. Proof: Luna PL

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2024 17:40:11 No.66860492 Report

Quoted By: >>66861968

>>66858754
VshojoJP will never work until they debut an entire gen, what would be the point of bringing a japanese person alone if she can't even talk to the other members

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2024 17:41:00 No.66860532 Report

Quoted By: >>66860631 >>66860770 >>66861624

>>66860175
>but i dont think thats a factor with yozora mel
Anon, Kson is also super close to mel. Close enough to do live boob touching streams with her.

Mel has actually collabed with Henya's PL multiple times in the past, too. There's more connections than you are aware of.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2024 17:42:24 No.66860606 Report

Quoted By: >>66863346

>>66860387
Even Sio came back. Again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2024 17:42:55 No.66860631 Report

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>>66860532
Oh, and she did a cover song with Kson on her RM channel too, I almost forgot about that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2024 17:45:41 No.66860770 Report

Quoted By: >>66861580

>>66860532
So she intentionally broke NDA to move earlier to Vshojo? I don't know if that's the smartest idea.
>It's Mel
ok it's most likely what happened

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2024 17:46:14 No.66860798 Report

Quoted By: >>66860930

>>66859853
>>66860014
She is an utaite and would keep singing and collaborated with other utaite. She build a good network through the years, even before joining Hololive. There is no need to her to jump to another corpo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2024 17:48:43 No.66860930 Report

Quoted By: >>66861776

>>66860798
Do you think she would bother having a new Live2D Vtuber model or do you think her days as a vtuber are behind her?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2024 17:50:33 No.66861031 Report

Quoted By: >>66861968

>>66858754
50/50. On the one hand:
>Did enjoy streaming to kapumin
>Friends with Kson and knows who Pikamee is
>Isn't a total psycho like Rushia
On the other hand:
>Doesn't need it, or vtubing in general
>Might feel awkward being the only monolingual JP in the company
>Might be done with corpos after this incident
>Can still collab with Kson whenever she wants anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2024 18:01:47 No.66861580 Report

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>>66860770
I doubt Mel did anything with malicious intent or seeking to join Vshojo.
What most people here is thinking is that, now that this NDA shit happened, Vshojo is not entirely off the table.
If anything, is the only corpo in the table is that, retiring or indie to be honest.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2024 18:02:56 No.66861624 Report

Quoted By: >>66861868

>>66860532
Bro i know and i love her for that but i feel like honestly vshojo cannot help her grow or save her. Vshojo shines when recruiting formerly abused and restricted talents that shine with TALENT FREEDOM.
Cmon bro before vshojo i was a holofag too i know yozora mel was treated well (minus the pervert manager) and she is included in alot of major events usually partnered with choco and other blondies. I think hololive treated her fairly well and she was really just not taking off. I also dont think she leaked info intentionally its just her being dumb.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2024 18:04:43 No.66861717 Report

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I think mel will have a better time irl streaming than vtubing shes really hot and would get thousands of simps instantly

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2024 18:06:08 No.66861776 Report

Quoted By:

>>66860930
She has a design so, why not?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2024 18:08:20 No.66861868 Report

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>>66861624
I don't think Talent Freedom will do much for Meru, nevermind the risk of falling into the Nazuna pit of being the only JP monolingual. She never really advanced with streaming meta so she can have all the freedom in the world and still be as amateurish as she was in 2018.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2024 18:10:34 No.66861968 Report

Quoted By: >>66862235

>>66860492
VShojoJP is a mostly legal entity serving the additional needs of the JP talents (management, permissions etc.), it's not a branch in a corpo sense.
>>66861031
>Might feel awkward being the only monolingual JP in the company
yeah, I don't think she will join.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2024 18:10:46 No.66861976 Report

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NDA shit is retarded, should just go indie

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2024 18:13:40 No.66862115 Report

Quoted By:

>>66859236
This is why newer talents will never stoop to leaking shit. COVER picked them up as struggling indies with no other means of survival. They can't afford to fuck around and find out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2024 18:16:11 No.66862235 Report

Quoted By: >>66863552 >>66863794

>>66861968
>VShojoJP is a mostly legal entity serving the additional needs of the JP talents (management, permissions etc.), it's not a branch in a corpo sense.
You keep saying that while Loutlot and Kson keep talking about adding new JP members. I don't have any insight on what might have happened to delay their plans, other than the obvious bounty of Niji talents that needed to be reaped, but that doesn't change the fact that they are openly looking for more talent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2024 18:17:27 No.66862286 Report

Quoted By: >>66862477

>>66859325
>Aside from Kson and Nazuna there isn't going to be another Holo joining Vshojo.
HoloEN talents might switch to VShojo but will probably not happen again with a JP talent. After leaving Hololive they might as well have the complete freedom of an indie vtuber since VShojo doesn't offer anything in terms of Japanese sponsorships. That is the main limitation of VShojo that it only provides benefits to English speaking vtubers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2024 18:19:27 No.66862371 Report

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Whatever she ends up doing she needs to make the most of it, don't think she can continue to compete and be successful on ASMR alone with new and younger and more capable competition every year. Loyalty can only last for so long and her core fans are whittling away at the fringes as time passes.
Think she needs to make a break as either a professional VA or a singer or else we'll be talking about an actual retirement in all ways in a few years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2024 18:21:47 No.66862477 Report

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>>66862286
GIGO, docomo and book-off are western companies?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2024 18:39:45 No.66863267 Report

Quoted By: >>66865710

I hope she'll feel lonely and start doing gravure then AV

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2024 18:41:43 No.66863346 Report

Quoted By:

>>66860606
What, where is she?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2024 18:45:59 No.66863552 Report

Quoted By:

>>66862235
of course they wanna add more JP members, it makes perfect business sense. that doesn't mean they'll emphasize JP or non-JP in branding, everyone is under the same banner marketing-wise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2024 18:50:43 No.66863794 Report

Quoted By: >>66865970

>>66862235
Kson said she hopes they add more members. She doesn't run the business.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2024 19:06:52 No.66864603 Report

Quoted By:

>>66859165
So.... yes?
She would be a good fit with Kson

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2024 19:30:22 No.66865710 Report

Quoted By:

>>66863267
Based

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2024 19:35:33 No.66865970 Report

Quoted By:

>>66863794
Loutlot said that they want more JP members and he kind of runs the business. He did say they wanted them in 2023 so who knows what's going on behind the scenes right now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2024 19:37:17 No.66866056 Report

Quoted By:

>>66858754
I hope not.
t. unironic Vshojofag

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2024 20:01:59 No.66867252 Report

Quoted By:

>>66858754
But Vshojo already has a Mel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2024 20:57:45 No.66870150 Report

Quoted By:

>>66858754
No

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2024 22:34:22 No.66875300 Report

Quoted By:

>>66858754
nah

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2024 22:36:38 No.66875410 Report

Quoted By:

>>66858754
yeah

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2024 22:42:19 No.66875693 Report

Quoted By:

>>66858754
It's possible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2024 22:44:54 No.66875811 Report

Quoted By:

>>66859545
>>66859853
>she will be lonely
Retarded people should not be millionaires, full stop. Modern economy is beyond fucked.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2024 23:40:38 No.66878904 Report

Quoted By: >>66879193

>>66858754
VShojo doesn't offer anything to her that she doesn't already have. Unlike Nazuna, she isn't desperate for a new opportunity to save her career. And unlike kson, she isn't a lazy bitch who wants a company to handle the business shit for her as she already does a lot of that stuff on her own(since she's had to as a popular ASMR girl)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2024 23:45:20 No.66879193 Report

Quoted By: >>66879344 >>66879639

>>66878904
Licking a microphone for donations isn't "doing a lot of that stuff on her own"

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2024 23:48:05 No.66879344 Report

Quoted By:

>>66879193
She has seiyuu gigs and does live events.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2024 23:53:15 No.66879639 Report

Quoted By:

>>66879193
>has her own legal team to protect from piracy and also from back when the manager shit happened
>has outlets to sell merch, collab with companies and get legal permission to sell cover albums
>has an array of artists willing to work with her for art and music, including her holo mama.
>as an indie, she'd already have talent freedom
literally what would VShojo have to offer her

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2024 00:22:37 No.66881591 Report

Quoted By:

>>66859165
Despite being retarded she's still not joining vshojo, just going indie

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2024 01:38:26 No.66886607 Report

Quoted By:

>>66858754
hmmmmmm

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2024 01:56:23 No.66887850 Report

Quoted By: >>66897058

>>66858754
Fuck no. She has her pick of all the vtubing corpos in JP that are much bigger and better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2024 02:03:17 No.66888319 Report

Quoted By:

Kson is still loyal to Yagoo and wouldn‘t betray him by working with a traitor like Mel

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2024 02:05:06 No.66888463 Report

Quoted By: >>66889088

>>66859440
She's so dumb that I'm sure she had no ill intent and should be given 3 chances to fuck up per year. She might fuck up and forget within a year so some extra leeway would be ideal.

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Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2024 02:13:17 No.66889088 Report

Quoted By: >>66889135

>>66888463
She came out saying:
:>I was mentally weak cause my cat died
>this person came to me
>I spoke a little too much thinking i couild trust them
>They snitched on me for a quick laugh
>Don't go pointing fingers
Poor dumb Mel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2024 02:14:09 No.66889135 Report

Quoted By: >>66889249

>>66889088
I hope Yagoo reads this, cries, and brings her back on

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2024 02:14:31 No.66889155 Report

Quoted By: >>66889280

I don't know how okay this is to talk about, but was her career outside of vtubing actually that lucrative?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2024 02:15:53 No.66889249 Report

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>>66889135
Probably didn't wnat to fire her, but if someone comes forth and goes "Lamo this said important company secrets to me, you need to fix that", you kinda get fucked into a spot where you have to get rid of them. It's pretty fucked up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2024 02:16:14 No.66889280 Report

Quoted By: >>66892584

>>66889155
the old rumours (that I took at face value) from before any of this stuff is that she earned more money on her other-account than as Mel. She definitely had more numbers and fame there, so it would make sense, I just don't know enough about JP monetization to say if it translated into hard cash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2024 02:37:41 No.66890916 Report

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>>66858754
Don't know, pretty much don't care. Never watched Mel anyways.
But I hope she does or goes indie for her fans regardless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2024 02:49:55 No.66891818 Report

Quoted By:

>>66859078
>>66859165
Who the fuck is Nazuna? Nazuna AI?
Did you know she's not even the first AI vtuber? It's somebody named Vedal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2024 02:50:18 No.66891850 Report

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>>66858754
The smartest play for her would be to find her best looking richest fan and settle down. Second would be going indie, vshojo is the worst for jps, henya and kson only do well enough because they can speak english. Jp onlys end up like nazuna

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2024 02:56:39 No.66892286 Report

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>>66860190
No. Plenty of cute girls who just be cute girls without any shit going on. Like my wife Pon, or my wife Toru or even my wife Toko.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2024 03:00:39 No.66892584 Report

Quoted By:

>>66889280
>She definitely had more numbers and fame there
Not hard, nobody actually watched Mel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2024 03:54:38 No.66897058 Report

Quoted By:

>>66887850
she does not, as anyone who breaks NDA is basically blacklisted from most jp corpos

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2024 04:15:25 No.66898705 Report

Quoted By:

>>66860190
Yes, it'll be worst for exholo. They gonna bully her to death and im not joking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2024 04:17:15 No.66898820 Report

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>>66858754
Now that she's no longer associated with Holo I want her to lez out without holding back, no more light yuri baiting.

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