>>73802742This was originally a reply, but I am just gonna post it as a normal comment here, because this was something brewing inside me for a long time.
You know that things are really weird when a sub like OKBH is more welcoming to the boys (and not just only as a tool - albeit that happens more than I want to see and I am not a fan of it) -, but more genuine openness) than the main sub. This doesn't make OKBH suddenly an oasis, but it should make those gears grinding.
It also speaks volumes when posts with Hololive majority get deleted just because a Holostars member is in that post too. Posts with such pillar members like Sora and Fubuki get banished to automod hell just because of a Starmem have been featured in and that really shows that the whole thing isn't about the girls. It reeks hatred, jealousy and anti behavior.
Yeah, these posts doesn't do justice to Starmin, being caught up with things like this but their frustration comes from a very understandable place.
Starmin had enough with this bullshit.
We just want to see their boys do their goofy stuff and idol performance in peace, with full excitement, without some bellend pissing in their punch bowl by shitting on Holostars' numbers, constantly sending hate towards the guys, choking their excitement with reporting any post on the Hololive Production subreddit (which Holostars JP and EN is very much a part of). And now we are labeled Hololive antis because we said "enough is enough". Starmin are not Hololive antis - there might be some, but so far I haven't met with any. The "worst" thing I have seen is that some fans have less respect towards Holomems who are not naming any Starsmems, but even they know to not bother those girls who do this.
This leads to another thing Starmin would like to see, IMO - a general baseline level of respect towards Holostars. Not forced collabs, not a Holopro-wide collab fest (bar a few fans), just a general respect and acknowledgement. Nothing more, nothing less. It's fine and alright if some Hololive members choose to not collab with Holostars or any other person from the opposite gender - their content, their choice, they have their reasoning which is understandable. Labeling the wishes of Stars fans in this regard as collab begging is misguided (minus some cases which aren't really that common) since collab begging happened within Hololive a lot, to the point it soured some Holomem collabs.
All the talent of Hololive and Holostars signed up to make their idol dream come true. That's what their fans want to see. That's what I want to see. That's what Yagoo, the Best Girl wants to see. Yet here we are with the constant infighting because a few loud bad apples on one side ruins the fun for the other side, out of hatred, while the other side slowly losing their patience and their will to "be the better person" because this kind of hatred for no reason, for this long is something no person on Earth deserves.
