>>75532951> The genuine and sincere homofans who have been trying to support the homos seeing people saying they aren't supporting them enough probably does feel like shit.There's another angle here, that Astel's talk about homo 3D lives was only to his JP fans alone and not the EOPs (because they were already abandoned by that audience post Tempus).
Hell this discussion took a week after his stream to take off in the beggar sphere because the stream wasn't even translated for that long kek
Original stream was on 18th April :
https://youtu.be/fWEj-y4Rahg?t=2347 Translations were on April 26th :
>>74505490 >>74512246 I don't think the EN homos are doing too badly for themselves, but that's mainly because they're like nijis - they have zero ambition for 3Ds, lives and idolshit, they just want to stream and make mad dough - which they can do fine while being above 500 viewers.
JP homos on the other hand, have always invested their increasingly tightening budget into high production lives and other programs which have almost zero effect on their growth.
They also never had a Coco-like figure who could teach them about a lot of things like the fundamentals of social media, meme magic etc. But much more importantly, they only had ONE person who's actually good at doing solo streams.
If you lurk /stars/ they are very aware that a lot of the homos are "demotivated" or too lazy/prideful to do meta content to increase their popularity. It says a lot that even holos who have 1M+ subs are still motivated to grow higher and spread their mindshare, while the homos - who desperately NEED at least 10% of that growth to even survive for half a decade more - are just done with the whole thing.
Hololive has always been driven by PASSION first and foremost. There's regular holo translators who get 500 - 1k views on their clips but have continued clipping for years because spreading the love of their oshi is their PASSION.
It also helps that their oshis often recognize these efforts - motivating them even more.
Both JP homos and JP holos had to look to the Japanese audience to consolidate their fanbase after their respective EN branches, but unlike the JP homos, JP holos never really told EOPs to outright fuck off en-masse.
A lot of holos have also talked about watching EN clips (Subaru talking about translating and reading comments under her EN clips) and even EN memes (fucking monkeeey) on stream. Some of it might sound dumb and cringe, but it at least shows the fans on the EN side that the JP holos are still paying attention to them - which is a huge motivator for doing more fan content.
The homos have been... passionless for about 2 years. There's very few homos that are actually passionate about doing idolshit specifically - which is what their group was originally formed for. Most JP and EN homos just want to stream and make money, which frustrates the hell out of talents like Astel who want to do more yet are held back due to the collective lethargy of the branch as a whole.
Yagoo's (and Roberu's) dream of "male idols can be popular too!" is the actual dream that's crumbling in front of our eyes.
