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Anonymous Sat 11 Mar 2023 02:47:44 No.1328673 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>1328680 >>1328776 >>1328971 >>1329069 >>1329075

I’m releasing my game next month, it’s an original idea and I want to protect myself against people trying to make copies after. What are some actions I can take to protect my intellectual property? Basically I want to be able to sue if someone decides to bootleg it.
What are some things I can do?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Mar 2023 03:20:34 No.1328680 Report

Quoted By: >>1328692 >>1328763

>>1328673
As in other games copying mechanics? Copyright them. Talk to an actual IP attorney.
Pirating your game? Nothing. You can go nuts with DMCA and suing, but you won't get much out of it. It won't stop them.
You can try denuvo and hope nobody cares enough. But it costs a ton and it still might not stop them. The DRM will put some people off too.

You could, possibly, make it a "cloud gaming" exclusive, like on a similar service to stadia. But I'll let you figure out why that's dumb.
Games as a service is hard to replicate, so people don't bother. To "pirate" it, they have to remake the server from scratch. There is a reason there aren't custom fortnite servers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Mar 2023 03:24:21 No.1328682 Report

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in the US, you would register a patent with the US patent and trademark office.
this process typically takes a lot longer than a month.
>At a high level, there are four main requirements you need to meet to obtain a patent: (1) the subject matter of the patent must be eligible for patent protection; (2) the invention must be “novel”; (3) the invention must be “useful”; and (4) the invention must be “non-obvious.”22 Jan 2021
if your IP doesn't qualify as patentable, then you would register trademarks instead.
https://www.uspto.gov/

in other countries idk.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Mar 2023 04:25:43 No.1328692 Report

Quoted By: >>1328715

>>1328680
>As in other games copying mechanics? Copyright them. Talk to an actual IP attorney.
you can't copyright game mechanics

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Mar 2023 07:05:18 No.1328715 Report

Quoted By: >>1328765 >>1329188

>>1328692
I remember an article about how there's a game company that copyrighted the moving arrow pointer thingy that leads you towards your next objective, I think for crazy taxi or something like that, so now no other game can use that mechanic, and that's why we have radars and overview maps, because other companies cannot do that until the copyright expires.

Same with the learning enemy AI. No game can use adaptable enemies that change based on the player play style because another company claimed that mechanic, so although the technology has been there for a decade no game can make "smart" enemies that change patterns over time because someone had enough money to claim it as theirs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Mar 2023 10:18:33 No.1328759 Report

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Talk to a lawyer instead of an internet stranger if you really are that serious about it, and not just fucking around

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Mar 2023 10:37:28 No.1328763 Report

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>>1328680
>Copyright them
You can't copyright mechanics.
>Talk to an actual IP attorney.
That's good advice tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Mar 2023 10:39:06 No.1328765 Report

Quoted By: >>1329119

>>1328715
>although the technology has been there for a decade no game can make "smart" enemies that change patterns over time
Alien Isolation.

Anyways, please actually google stuff you "heard": if you can't find the actual story then it's likely not true.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 11 Mar 2023 12:32:37 No.1328776 Report

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>>1328673
i'll be monitoring steam releases next month and will make sure to release your game on rutracker and rarbg and the basics if it's not well protected. better spend a fortune on denuvo or the game is a goner.
come sue me faggot lmao see how that turns out

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Mar 2023 01:16:11 No.1328971 Report

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>>1328673
you can't copyright rules.
in other words, you can't protect "rule #1: the player may jump three times as long as..."
what you can do is protect the look and name of your game.
go through a professional and they'll be able to fill you in on all of the particulars.
good luck to you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Mar 2023 04:20:03 No.1329069 Report

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>>1328673
>What are some actions I can take to protect my intellectual property?
First understand that intellectual property, copyright, and trademarks are different things. You have copyright by default and you have to trademark your brand in order to protect logos, names, and similar stuff.
>Basically I want to be able to sue if someone decides to bootleg it.
Everyone can sue anyone for anything whenever, the point is that you want to win. Realistically there's nothing you can do if somebody makes a game similar to yours; even if you're willing to spend 10 million bucks doing legal stuff, you most likely have no case. If you're talking about piracy then it's about the same but many times harder.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Mar 2023 04:28:43 No.1329075 Report

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>>1328673
Be American and have natural rights to intellectual property. I think since the Sonny Bono act you don't even have to register your copyright with an agency: if someone steals your idea, just sue.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Mar 2023 07:26:29 No.1329119 Report

Quoted By: >>1329188

>>1328765
Found thale story and the video that led me to search it in the first place:

https://youtu.be/sFG4PCDoIXE

https://www.ign.com/articles/wb-games-nemesis-system-patent-was-approved-this-week-after-multiple-attempts

https://www.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/6s20i4/is_the_crazy_taxi_direction_arrow_patent_still_in/

So on short, OP can select a very specific but heavily utilized original mechanic in the game and secure the patent to it. This can guarantee no other game can copy the entire or even the general mechanics of the game without ensuring a legal claim.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 12 Mar 2023 13:15:25 No.1329188 Report

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>>1328715
>>1329119
Those are defensive patents. They figured that patenting it would give them a firmer legal basis in case they got sued. They have never been enforced because their purpose is defense. A trial about game mechanics has negative money in it.
>be you
>make game
>patent mechanic
>advertise it as a core novel feature
>for example, this game tracks your eyes and uses AI to know your favorite waifu and make her harder to interact with
>be me
>copy mechanic of your game with modification
>for example, the same, but also if you're a cuck you mark a box and the favorite girl cucks you
If you want to sue me you need to:
>guess that I have made enough money for it to be worth it
>sue me in my country
>make a case that makes sense about why my mechanic is not completely different to yours (do you claim you're the only one entitled to use the eye tracking? now Facebook is suing you for affecting the viability of their product)
>win a legal battle where I'm claiming that your patent should actually be voided because it's too generic and shouldn't have been granted
>did you win your trial? now we need to have another trial just to figure out how much should I pay you, or if I have to at all
>do all of this in other key countries as well
You're gonna spend about 3-15 years lawyering in half a dozen key countries, and that's gonna be tens of millions of dollars. That's why this doesn't happen. Even the biggest companies don't touch this shit because they know it's not worth it.

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