https://apnews.com/article/giuliani-2020-election-georgia-defamation-moss-freeman-6f6446c4f5224f521db8ff7763fb12d1 BYLINDSAY WHITEHURSTANDALANNA DURKIN RICHER
Updated 5:29 PM EST, December 15, 2023
WASHINGTON (AP) — A jury awarded $148 million in damages on Friday to two former Georgia election workers who suedRudy Giulianifor defamation over lies he spread about them in 2020 thatupended their liveswith racist threats and harassment.
The damages verdict follows emotional testimony from Wandrea “Shaye” Moss and her mother, Ruby Freeman, who tearfully described becoming the target of a false conspiracy theory pushed by Giuliani and other Republicans as they tried to keep then-President Donald Trump in power after he lost the 2020 election.
There was an audible gasp in the courtroom when the jury foreperson read aloud the $75 million award in punitive damages for the women. Moss and Freeman were each awarded another roughly $36 million in other damages.
“Money will never solve all my problems,” Freeman told reporters outside Washington’s federal courthouse after the verdict. “I can never move back into the house that I call home. I will always have to be careful about where I go and who I choose to share my name with. I miss my home. I miss my neighbors and I miss my name.”
Giuliani didn’t appear to show any emotion as the verdict was read after about 10 hours of deliberations. Moss and Freeman hugged their attorneys after the jury left the courtroom and didn’t look at Giuliani as he left with his lawyer.
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The former New York City mayor vowed to appeal, telling reporters that the “absurdity of the number merely underscores the absurdity of the entire proceeding.” “It will be reversed so quickly it will make your head spin, and the absurd number that just came in will help that actually,” he said. It’s not clear whether Giuliani will ever be able to pay the staggering amount. He had already been showing signs of financial strain as he defends himself against costly lawsuits and investigations stemming from his representation of Trump. In September, his former lawyersued him, alleging Giuliani had paid only a fraction of nearly $1.6 million in legal fees he racked up. His attorney in the defamation case told jurors that the damages the women were seeking “would be the end of Mr. Giuliani.” Giulianihad already been found liablein the case and previouslyconceded in court documentsthat he falsely accused the women of ballot fraud. Even so, the former mayor continued to repeat his baseless allegations about the women in comments to reporters outside the Washington, D.C., courthouse this week. Giuliani’s lawyer acknowledged that his client was wrong but insisted that Giuliani was not fully responsible for the vitriol the women faced. The defense sought to largely pin the blame on a right-wing website that published the surveillance video of the two women counting ballots. Giuliani’s defense rested Thursday morning without calling a single witness after the former mayor reversed course and decided not to take the stand. Giuliani’s lawyer had told jurors in his opening statement that they would hear from his client. But after Giuliani’s comments outside court, the judge barred him from claiming in testimony that his conspiracy theories were right.
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The judgment adds to growing financial and legal peril for Giuliani, who was among the loudest proponents ofTrump’s false claimsof election fraud that are now a key part of thecriminal cases against the former president. Giuliani is still facing his biggest test yet: fighting criminal charges inthe Georgia caseaccusing Trump and 18 others of working to subvert the results of the 2020 election, won by Democrat Joe Biden, in that state. Giuliani has pleaded not guilty and characterized the case as politically motivated. Jurors in the defamation case heard recordings of Giuliani falsely accusing the election workers of sneaking in ballots in suitcases, counting ballots multiple times and tampering with voting machines. Trump also repeated the conspiracy theories through his social media accounts. Lawyers for Moss and Freeman, who are Black, also played for jurorsaudio recordings of the graphic and racist threatsthe women received. On the witness stand, Moss and Freeman described fearing for their lives as hateful messages poured in. Freeman described strangers banging on her door and recounted fleeing her home after people came with bullhorns and the FBI told her she wasn’t safe. Moss told jurors she tried to change her appearance, seldom leaves her home and suffers from panic attacks.
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“Our greatest wish is that no one, no election worker, or voter or school board member or anyone else ever experiences anything like what we went through,” Moss told reporters after the verdict. “You all matter, and you are all important.” Defense attorney Joseph Sibley had told jurors they should compensate the women for what they are owed, but he urged them to “remember this is a great man.” An attorney for Moss and Freeman, in his closing argument, highlighted how Giuliani has not stopped repeating thefalse conspiracy theoryasserting the workers interfered in the November 2020 presidential election. Attorney Michael Gottlieb played a video of Giuliani outside the courthouse on Monday, in which Giuliani falsely claimed the women were “engaged in changing votes.” Giuliani kept pressing false election claims even after the verdict, telling reporters, “I know my country had a president imposed on it by fraud.” “Mr. Giuliani has shown over and over again he will not take our client’s names out of his mouth,” Gottlieb said. “Facts will not stop him. He says he isn’t sorry and he’s telegraphing he will do this again. Believe him.” The judge overseeing the election workers’ lawsuit had already ordered Giuliani and his business entities to pay tens of thousands of dollars in attorneys’ fees. In holding Giuliani liable, the judge ruled that the former mayor gave “only lip service” to complying with his legal obligations while trying to portray himself as the victim in the case. ___ Richer reported from Boston. Associated Press reporter Michael Kunzelman contributed from Washington.
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tl:dr>rudy fucked around and has now found out
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>>1246385 He seems like the type of person who, after hearing the verdict, would pull out his wallet to check his much money he has, and then gulp really loud.
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>>1246385 the mob finally has its revenge
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>>1246406 Are you kidding? Rudy became the mob. He's part of RICO suit now.
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>>1246406 please explain what you mean by 'the mob' and why it doesn't include the 'trial by combat' man
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These two women cheated the election, got caught on tape cheating the election, and the government punished the people who exposed it.
https://rumble.com/v3be7ar-electionfraud2020-georgia-fultoncounty-gasenatehearing.html Anonymous
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>>1246439 Go back to rumble and stay there forever
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>>1246439 Didn't u hear? The suitcase of ballots pulled out from under the tablecloth after everyone else left were the thousands of mail on ballots cast exclusively for Joe Biden that they they just happened to forgot to count when everyone else was in the room.
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>>1246458 Whoever wrote that article is hoping that the reader didn't see the video, since the author is lying about the events that took place.
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>>1246457 And the poll watchers left on their own after determining that the poll workers are super great and trustworthy. To think that Giuliani would call them riggers! They deserve every penny of that $75 million.
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>>1246464 >Other workers began packing up, Sterling said. This involved putting ballots that had been opened and flattened for scanning into boxes and under a table. Barron said he found out around 10:30 p.m. He then called the supervisor on site and instructed the team to continue scanning ballots that had already been prepared. They pulled the same boxes back out — regular ballot containers on wheels, not suitcases — and resumed working, according to Sterling. Funny how anyone can see the video of them pulling the ballot suitcase out from under a tablecloth, but nobody has been able to produce video of it getting placed there as part of the routine ballot arrivals or processing
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>>1246470 So what you're saying is there was never any evidence the ballots were brought in illegally?
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>>1246470 What's really funny is how people think these dumb arguments can convince anyone that it's ok to dismiss poll watchers and then count ballots once they're gone.
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>>1246464 >>1246470 >>1246486 The people who made up the conspiracy theory you are repeating right now told a judge only idiots would believe it.
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>>1246492 Are you telling me the video is fake and they're all crisis actors? OK Alex Jones.
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>>1246492 they had to either "confess" or have the full weight of the illegitimate American legal system thrown at them, their families, and their descendants.
not all of them are brave enough to stand by the truth.
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>>1246498 The video doesn't show what you were told by Sidney Powell it does.
>>1246499 Whatever you need to tell yourself is fine, Anon, but you lost.
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>>1246501 Sidney Powell wasn't in the hearing and has nothing to do with the video. The fact that you brought her up means you didn't even watch it, but don't let that stop you from making ignorant arguments.
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>>1246502 >nothing to do with the video The video was part of her "hereistheevidence" disinformation campaign. But you're right that others were more directly invovled in pushing the failed conspiracy theory
https://journalstar.com/news/nation-world/sidney-powell-pleads-guilty-georgia-election-case/article_f05cd4bf-c646-5818-b186-534ab6ef9efe.html >Powell was present for a now-infamous December 2020 meeting at the White House where participants hatched far-fetched schemes. She also was part of a group that met at the South Carolina home of conservative attorney Lin Wood in November 2020 “for the purpose of exploring options to influence the results of the November 2020 elections in Georgia and elsewhere,” prosecutors said. Additionally, prosecutors alleged Powell was involved in arranging for a computer forensics team to travel to rural Coffee County, about 200 miles southeast of Atlanta, to copy data and software from elections equipment there in January 2021. >Georgia’s top election officials vouched for Biden’s victory after multiple recounts and an audit. Investigations by an Atlanta-based U.S. attorney and Trump’s own Attorney General at the time found no evidence of significant election fraud. https://georgiarecorder.com/2023/11/06/fulton-19-update-after-plea-deals-das-focus-turns-to-remaining-defendants-in-georgia-2020-election-rico-case/ >Harrison Floyd >Floyd, who was the only one out of 18 defendants to spend time in custody in Fulton jail, is facing felony charges of racketeering and conspiracy, and influencing a witness and solicitation to make false statements and writings. >Investigators with the secretary of state and Georgia Bureau of Investigation found that the right-wing conspiracies claiming fraud committed by Moss and Freeman were unsubstantiated and false. Anonymous
>>1246506 >But you're right Yeah I know. You should watch the video. Now fuck off.
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>>1246509 you are a fucking loser
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>>1246509 you lost at fucking
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>>1246509 The real problem is you're watching an edited video on rumble when you should be watching the full version from prosecutorial exhibits from Rudy Guiliani's trial (where he had to pay damages for helping to spread this insane Trump cope)
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>>1246518 If you link those videos I'll watch them. I don't see how a "full version" would show anything different. You can see poll watchers leave and then after a few minutes the poll workers resume counting, which is illegal.
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>>1246439 Wow Anon! They are gonna make Jules give them nearly 150 million, for saying basically what you just paroted. You sure you wanna dance at this party?!
I'm almost certain that you will have a harder time, rustling up 150 million, than Jules will, but you go ahead and check the cushions of your couch!
- KEK!
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>>1246520 They don't put it on the internet. An Atlanta TV station has the full video but will only show part of it.
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>>1246439 >question the election >get your life ruined Many such cases.
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>>1246525 >slander people >fail to prove your slanderous claims weren't slander in court >ruin your own life Many such cases. Pretty sure Rudy's still got multiple court cases coming up from voting machine companies too.
And then there's that case from that employee he was fucking.
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>>1246525 How many independent audits do you need? 30?
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>>1246523 It's illegal to count ballots without observers. I'm aware that a lot of people and organizations blatantly lie about this, including this news report. Not a surprise to see Gabriel Sterling lie about this too, given who he is.
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>>1246528 >literally every court case is dismissed on technicalities >democrats: where's the evidence :^) >we wuz victims, gib millions nao Sure is weird how every attorney defending DJT has been put in prison, sued for the sum of a small nations GDP or disbarred.
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>>1246529 Democrats sued the independent audits too, anon.
It's almost like they're trying to hide something.
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>>1246537 it's hidden under yourpillow
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>>1246535 >on technicalities The technicality being they were groundless suits and no evidence was ever put forward to sustain them.
And proving your claims are true is a defense against slander. You'll note THAT case wasn't dismissed. Rudy just got blown the fuck out.
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>>1246535 >Sure is weird how every attorney defending DJT has been put in prison, sued for the sum of a small nations GDP or disbarred. >Sure is weird that a dude that's reputational poison, surrounded by criminals, charged with dozens of felonies himself, and notorious for being an uncooperative client that doesn't pay his lawyers (Rudy got stiffed too) has shitty legal representation and people connected to him constantly end up in jail or ruined Nah.
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>>1246558 Very true. Trump fucks over everyone that tries to help him, and it ends up fucking him over. If he spent his last day in office issuing pardons to his supporters, he'd be in a lot less hot water. It's bizarre that people still trust him.
>>1246556 >And proving your claims are true is a defense against slander. If you're a lawyer who tries to prove those claims of fraud, they will give you a RICO charge.
revenge is a dish best served N'yuck N'yuck
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>>1246390 >tl:dr Rudy has just declared bankruptcy
>>1246416 >Rudy became the mob Rudy dont want your respect, he wants your fear.
Dye runs down face, and he starts taking his cock out for Borat's daughter
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>>1246535 >Sure is weird how every attorney defending DJT has been put in prison, sued for the sum of a small nations GDP or disbarred. Considering whom they were defending, they were stupid to begin with
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revenge is a dish best served N'yuck N'yuck Sat 16 Dec 2023 03:26:19 No. 1246566 Report >>1246563 are you calling me a clown?
like i'm here to amuse you?
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>>1246565 >>1246566 rustic saying named guy, i never really understood what you were going for
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>>1246385 I guess throwing away all your credibility and goodwill for Trump isn't a winning strategy.
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>>1246561 >If you're a lawyer who tries to prove those claims of fraud, they will give you a RICO charge. If they'd succeeded instead of tried, they wouldn't be getting RICO charges.
And Trump would be president.
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>>1246577 Well I do agree, if Trump charged these poll workers and election officials for election fraud, RICO, and other felonies, he would be president.
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>>1246577 >If they'd succeeded instead of tried, they wouldn't be getting RICO charges "Prove there was voter fraud otherwise we will arrest you" -- anon, Democratic voter, circa 2023-2024
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>>1246581 They'll arrest you anyways for even questioning it. See: Trump.
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>>1246558 >literally every single legal representative has been snagged for this or that >Democrats: 'Well, they all sound like really bad people.' You sound like Israel talking about Hamas.
>Why did you bomb the hospital? >There was a terrorist base underneath that one. >What about the other 28 you bombed? >..those had bases underneath them too. Anonymous
>>1246556 >groundless suits The courts argued that unless EVERY SINGLE PERSON affected by voter fraud sued, even the ones who WON THE ELECTION, then the person bringing the suit didn't have standing to sue, because if the courts overturned the election it would affect all of them as well.
Imagine suing someone for fraud and then having the case dismissed, without the courts ever seeing the evidence, because the guy who profited from the fraud wasn't doing it alongside you.
Democrats are unbelievably stupid, jesus fucking christ.
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>>1246581 >Prove your allegations that someone is a criminal in court or get hit with defamation and other legal consequences stemming from the conspiracy to make false allegations Seems fucking reasonable to me.
If you're gonna go to court to make allegations against someone, you better god damn win.
>>1246580 >Well I do agree, if Trump charged these poll workers and election officials for election fraud The cases would have been dismissed immediately cause Trump never had any god damn evidence. Anyway, I'm looking forward to Trump dying in prison.
My point was that if Trump had been able to produce evidence the election was rigged, he'd be president. But he couldn't because it wasn't. Funny timeline to think about though.
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>>1246588 >literally every single legal representative has been snagged for this or that This isn't true, but even if it were true, it wouldn't really be relevant. Each asshole Trump associated himself with got fucked over in court in their own personal cases.
It's not like one went down and everyone around them went down to by association.
It's not a hospital being bombed, it's closer to a chain of people being shot individually. Show a shooting was bad or shut the fuck up.
>>1246591 Cry moar.
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>>1246593 https://rumble.com/v3be7ar-electionfraud2020-georgia-fultoncounty-gasenatehearing.html If the DOJ filed felony charges against the election workers and used tape and witness testimony as evidence, it would be lengthy and expensive for those workers to fight those charges. Instead of exercising power to put riggers in prison, Trump decides to make a phone call pleading with election officials that are in on the scheme. What a loser.
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>>1246595 What makes you think the election officials would have gone to prison? Trump and his cronies are facing charges for rigging the election and they're all walking around, and it's not like they'd ever be convicted when Trump never had any evidence. And why would it be expensive? They could just not pay their lawyers, like Trump.
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>>1246597 >What makes you think the election officials would have gone to prison? Because at the time this happened Trump was President and therefore had the power to do that.
>Trump and his cronies are facing charges for rigging the election Yeah all those charges were made when Biden took office, because Biden and his cronies know how to exercise power.
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>>1246598 >Because at the time this happened Trump was President and therefore had the power to do that. Trump had the worst judicial record of any president in history. He couldn't win a court case to save his life. Literally. And what in god's name makes you think the executive branch controls whether people go to prison or that who the president is determines who judges grant bail to?
>>1246598 >Yeah all those charges were made when Biden took office, because Biden and his cronies know how to exercise power. 1. Years later
2. Half Trump's indictments are state offenses.
3. Trump isn't in prison...yet.
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>>1246499 The copium is off the charts
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My favorite part is when the man goes outside and says the same heinous shit before going to jury. Whatever will he do without his million dollar homes?
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>>1246729 Reminder the two plaintiffs were only asking for $24 million.
The jury thought Rudy was so detestable that they gave them $124 million more.
Orange Gulius needs to raise some quick cash. Maybe put out a set of NFT Super H̶e̶r̶o̶ Villain trading cards like tRump.
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>>1246594 >It's not like one went down and everyone around them went down to by association. Is this a joke?
What do you think the RICO case is for, retard? Do you think it's all a funny little coincidence that every single one of Trump's associates is being disbarred or put in jail?
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>>1246759 >What do you think the RICO case is for, retard? Trump and a bunch of people around him did a bunch of illegal shit. Every one of them is charged individually for their own crimes, not one of which is guilt by association. Cry moar.
God you people deserve to wallow in misery. I really can't wait for the tears when Trump gets his first sentence.
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>>1246759 Biden and the DNC are the good guys and Trump is evil so when they charge Trump and his associates with crimes, all those charges are true and he's guilty of everything. Also any lawyer who tries to defend them is only doing so because they're corrupt and evil so they should get charged with crimes too.
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>Giuliani’s defense rested Thursday morning without calling a single witness after the former mayor reversed course and decided not to take the stand. Giuliani’s lawyer had told jurors in his opening statement that they would hear from his client. But after Giuliani’s comments outside court, the judge barred him from claiming in testimony that his conspiracy theories were right. I honestly don't give a shit about Rudy, but this is the line that stands out for me. The judge prevented him from testifying in his own defense. The jury is supposed to weigh the evidence and decide whether or not it's true; but the judge is doing that here and preventing the jury from hearing the evidence. Rudy's probably right that it will get overturned. Probably.
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>>1246867 >The judge prevented him from testifying in his own defense No. The judge prevented him from perjuring himself and further defaming his victims. He'd already lost the defamation case. They were in the penalty phase. His statements were fucking defamatory. He's not gonna be allowed to repeat them on the fucking stand.
He still could have testified about whatever else his heart fucking desired. It just so happened his heart didn't desire to testify about anything else.
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>>1246784 >Biden and the DNC are the good guys and Trump is evil so when they charge Trump and his associates with crimes Biden and the DNC haven't charged anybody with any crimes.
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>>1246784 >Biden and the DNC are the good guys and Trump is evil Yes.
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>>1246878 To be fair, his charges in New York are 100% DNC.
I challenge anyone to act like they arent.
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>>1246869 >His statements were fucking defamatory. According to the New York justice system, which also let marxists smash businesses because a drug addict suffered from wooden chest syndrome.
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>>1246909 >According to the New York justice system The case is in DC. DC's big on sending anti-American rioters to jail. Not sure what you're bitching about.
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>>1246869 >He'd already lost the defamation case. They were in the penalty phase. I think you're confusing Rudy's case with what they did to Trump and Alex Jones, because no.
Rudy had an 'actual' jury trial, but the judge prevented him from testifying based on public statements he made defending himself.
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>>1246931 Are you outraged at this travesty of justice?
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>>1246942 I don't care about Rudy; nobody does. I think it's probably cosmic justice that Democrats are charging him under the RICO statutes he 'pioneered' to go after the mafia. He changed the rules and now he's personally suffering for it. He probably deserves anything that happens to him.
That said, I no longer live under the delusion that we have an even somewhat equitable judicial system. Don't expect the right to a jury trial when they come for you; nobody else got one.
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>>1246943 But this specific case with the election worker defamation was a civil case. Civil cases are sometimes decided by summary judgment. I don't see why right-wingers act like this is outside of norm or a miscarriage of justice.
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>>1246945 The cases against Trump, Jones and Giuliani have all been civil summary judgements thus far and the implications are the government can dismantle one of the biggest real estate companies in the world on literally one guy's decision.
If you think your life is worth more than the 1.5 billion dollar judgement against Jones, you're wrong. Plenty of people would kill you for less.
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>>1246952 I hope Giuliani starts hurling veiled death threats like you so he gets hit with more charges
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>>1246955 That wasn't a death threat dumbfuck; just an obvious reality that your retarded life is worth less than what they're willing to arbitrarily confiscate without a jury. The idea that you would would still have the right to a jury trial after this because "this is only civil!" literally makes me laugh.
You won't get a jury or even a trial. Not that you deserve one.
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>>1246996 i'm not an abject criminal like giuliani
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>>1247000 He's "America's" former mayor and legendary district attorney responsible for taking down some of the biggest mafia names in history.
>abject criminal You commie faggots will say anything.
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>>1247007 Unfortunately the mafia regrouped and rebranded under the name "Democrats" and they're getting their revenge.
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>>1247016 Great facebook tier opinion, Grandpa, are you starting a channel with fresh takes like that one? I'd like to subscribe.
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>>1247019 What do you mean? It's obvious the New York mafia went into law and politics.
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>>1247000 Checked those trips.
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>>1246439 >>1246406 >>1246458 >>1246470 >>1246509 >>1246525 >>1246535 Wait is this the same guy? Lol bro needs to get a proper life