>>2478478>>2478339 didnt read your whole post >how do they hold up to rocks and spikes and shit? do you ever hurt your feet with them?not well but its not generally and issue for me even tho i live in a rocky area as i can feel the rock and move my foot before any real damage is done
>and of course, consoomer stuff: how much and where?i got my current pair from moccasins canada on clearance and cut the fringe off they are made by bastein industries they where about 130 iirc which is a lot and why im thinking about making my own
>how do they handle water? very badly im in eastern woodlands and my feet are wet almost all the time no matter the shoes i wear but i don't care much as they dry really quick and are so light i can carry an extra pair. i dont wear socks with them if its above 60 out below that i wear darn tough or smart wool and a pair of puttees and ive never had an issue with cold feet when it gets really cold i switch to mukluks
>any surfaces that are no-go?muddy slopes suck but thats not really just a moccasin thing even my panama soled jungle boots struggle in mud
>picrel my pair of belgian short puttees and one of my swiss long puttees i couldn't be fucked to roll up they both provide excellent ankle support and warmth 
