>>32568392I mean, he's not even saying that Baton Pass is broken, he's just saying that it's an effective play style. What kind of a reason for a ban is that? I hate how nowadays Smogon are not banning things because they can't deal with them, they're banning things because they don't WANT to deal with them. Baton Pass isn't broken, Dugtrio isn't broken but they're most likely going to suspect it again because they just want it gone, and M-Metagross wasn't broken either. It's just the same old story of "We don't like playing against this, let's get rid of it". The only two proper reasons for a ban are if something has no viable counter play whatsoever (i.e. it's straight up broken) or if something over-centralizes the meta to the point where practically nothing but said play style and its counter teams are viable. Neither has been the case in Gen VII ban by the way.