>>79660614Yes I am seething. I'm an oldfag /co/mrade who is pissed with the way us animation has turned out.
>>79660276 An animator of friend of mine pointed out a good example. Look at 80s cartoons and noticed how a lot of them were action based. Transformers, GI Joe, Ghostbusters. The early 2000s had Adelaide Productions, which also tried to maintain the action genre outside of capeshit (Extreme Ghostbusters, MIB animated, Godzilla animated, etc). But there hasn't been as much good action cartoons at leats on the telly, as most of them have gone to streaming (like Korra and, of course, Invincible and Vox Machina)
>>79660598>>79660657>>79660667You get it. You all get it.
If the US had Japans model, winners from talent shows like American Idol and America's Got Talent would be nominated to be a voice actor on the newest animation of Unsounded, Devil's Candy or Flaky Pastry. Oh whats that, they dont have animations because they're webcomics? Okay, then they'd be voicing the latest animated adaptations of Walt Simonson's Rakgnarok, Image Comic's Birthright and Chew. What, THOSE don't have animations?
I'm frustrated with the state of comics & animation in the US which has enough problems ignoring idpol nonsense. That a series like Invincible could get any traction only because of the Walking Dead and voice actors is saddening. The fact that the majority of US animation is kiddy cartoons (now increasingly plagued with the CalArts style), capeshit and "tenth season of who-gives-a-fuck adult comedy" is upsetting. And when it comes to big budget movie animation, almost every animated movie now is fucking 3D, with Pixar or Disney almost always winning an Oscar. Higbli got away with Spirited Away merely because Disney licensed that movie. The West sleeps on something like Your Name when it comes to movies, and comics like Chew or Unsounded don't get the attention they deserve simply because the ladder to climb is a lot more difficult then it is in Japan, which itself is already a difficult ladder. I'm aware that, for every manga that gets a licensing deal, five to ten do not, and thats not counting the glut of mediocre to BAD anime. And yet, the diversity of their content and ideas far outshines anything from the US in non-capeshit published comics and animation (webcomcis and web animations are an entirely different frontier) I can count on my ten fingers the very few animations that have impressed me the way some anime and manga have.
Its just very tiresome.
>>79660725The discussion stemmed from why a girls show about horses got popular in the West. This is ultimately why.
