>>58906678did you sleep through generation 7 before incelroar got its hidden ability and any vgc formats without incineroar
plus hisuian arcanine shows up from time to time in both vgc and ou because of STAB rockslide + intimidate and STAB head smash + rock head, respectively
it's good enough especially if you account for all of gen 9's infamous powercreep
>>58906952because they're shitters scared of oddish using ababor
just completely disregard that a ton of very good pokemon have quad weaknesses and are still high usage in both singles and doubles formats anyways, and that at least a few of them are so strong they have to be actively and specifically nerfed like talonflame
most of my favorite pokemon have quad weaknesses and that doesn't stop me from loving them
