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For transforming nature

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The edge of morality
A case of transforming nature

A common slogan regarding evolution is “evolution doesn’t stop at the neck.” The basic idea is that the same evolutionary forces that work on our bodies—determining our height, method of reproduction, and so on—also work on our brains. Our minds are not unfiltered Cartesian egos, unaffected by evolution, and the assumption that they are is a source of serious error.

But there’s a similar dogma when it comes to ethics that is as widespread as it is indefensible. This is roughly the notion that ethics stops at the edge of society—that ethics, in other words, has nothing to say about nature, and there are no values to be promoted in nature; all we should do, with respect to nature, is preserve it. This idea strikes me as clearly wrong!

When you tell people that you support modifying nature to reduce suffering—trying to get rid of predators that rip their victims limb from limb and of flies that lay eggs in the bodies of live animals, eating their way out from the inside—they act like you have grown another head. But I think the worthwhileness of modifying nature follows from every plausible ethical view.

We normally accept that it’s bad when animals suffer. We think there’s something noble about helping out an injured deer, but nothing comparably noble about helping out an injured plant. When, in the 1980s, surgery was performed on live dogs without any anesthetic, we correctly recognize that such a practice was ghastly and horrific. The reason it was horrific is that it’s bad to be in excruciating agony. The fact that huge numbers of dogs were in excruciating agony was a bad thing. Surely it can’t be that it’s only bad for dogs to suffer if humans are the culprit—this would imply that it’s wrong to treat horrible diseases dogs have, if treating the diseases causes them any suffering.
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GF wants some quality /out patches that won't out her as a 4chan user. Photos of your patches and/or small, not so well known, brands are encouraged.
Thanks gang

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i fucking love the natural beauty of mother earth. what do?
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What is /out/ reading?

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Title. Fiction or Non. Picrel fucked me up, I knew about the cannibalism but that was the least of it. Looking for more recs, /out/ related preferered but whatever you like or are currently reading is cool too.
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protecting urself in the harsh sun

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tourist from /trv/, how do i protect myself when in very very hot environments in terms of clothing? what works in your experience, what doesn't? i know some of you like to lurk around in deserts so i figured you lads would know the best.
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Telescope thread

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Got a complete Tasco 1959 7TE 60mm Refractor in original box with all accessories along with a whole bunch of books with some other stuff for $20.

Did i do good?
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Brown fungus that makes buzzing sound when illuminated. Found in abandoned mine.

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Found last week in an abandoned mine in Maramureș county, northern Romania. The light used is LED.
it can't be bugs because this was kilometers deep inside the mine, only fungi and bacteria here.
I tried asking on reddit but that was of no help (as usual)
What could the species be? Is it an undocumented species or perhaps undocumented behaviour? I couldn't find anything about it. I asked a few university profs. and they also don't knkw what it could be.
https://imgur.com/a/Eyu9dSJ

Conservation general

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why does it seem like all you people want to go out and be “in le nature” but don’t give a single fuck about preserving ecosystems or native biodiversity? You feel entitled to go out and be in nature and treat it like your personal fucking playground, damaging the ecosystem and demanding roads and trails be paved through the wilderness so you can “heckin enjoy it”? And then go home and continue to fuel the 6th mass extinction with your destructive consumerist habits?
Anyway, I planted some Texas native wildflowers today to help the declining pollinator population in my area. What did you do?
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I saw on a facebook page for vanlife someone asking if they could make vanlife/rvlife work on 7k a month budget and a ton of people talking about how they currently 'make it work' on like 3-5k a month or whatever and it made me wonder how many of you have tried to vanlife and how much a month do you think you needed to survive while doing it
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How important do you think a survival knife is?
Do you think it is a rather not needed item thats need can be superseded by a usual every day knife?
It is easier to just snap logs for a fire than to hack them with a survival knife.
This is of course not including raw survival where you are needing bushcraft and hunting skills to actually survive. Just general non normie tier camp holiday woodland camping.
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